Difference in belief

RaymondG · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
Do you hold the belief that the Bible should be taken spiritually? If so who makes the rules for interpretation? Who's interpretation is correct?

Parables and metaphors are identifiable, but spiritual interpretation I don't think is. I would love for you to give me an example of why something is interpreted spiritually and why.

I happen to believe that the bible was meant to be interpreted spiritually, but literal interpretations can also have great moral benefits as well. And only God's interpretation is correct

1 corth 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
2 cor 3:6
Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

God will put no more on you than you can bear......When you are able to hear and see pass the literal, you will.

RaymondG · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
The physical resurrection is the most important event in history. It provides evidence that Jesus is who he claimed to be, it provides evidence that God really did send the man called Jesus and that is was not just a story or made up. It also authenticates Christ claims that he would be raised on the third day, John 2:19-21, Mark 8:31, 9:31, 10:34.

Also what Paul's said, if Christ body was not resurrected we have no hope, 1 Corinthians 15:13, 16.

The Jews did not want to accept Jesus as the Messiah, the resurrection as a physical one proves to the Jews that He is in fact the Messiah. Without the physical resurrection you can say that Jesus was someone who claimed to be something He was not, then people wrote about this man. He would then just be regarded as a prophet, I do believe another religion actually does state Jesus was just a prophet.

Let us also look at it this way, if you take it on facts as written, why will you believe in God? Because Jesus rose from the dead perhaps?

I understand. Was good chatting with you. May God bless you on your journey to heaven

shinoobi · Apr 25, 2017

RaymondG said:
I happen to believe that the bible was meant to be interpreted spiritually, but literal interpretations can also have great moral benefits as well. And only God's interpretation is correct

1 corth 2:14
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
2 cor 3:6
Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.

God will put no more on you than you can bear......When you are able to hear and see pass the literal, you will.

Please tell me who gives authority to the spiritual meaning of the Bible, or do we accept it as we believe it to be. Is there different interpretations coming from the spirit and we chop and change it to make us feel good?

I do not see how the text you gave tells us the Bible is spiritual? In Corth Paul speaks about wisdom of the wise (1:19), wisdom of this world (1:20; 3:19), wisdom of men ect ect. Within the first 3 chapters he uses the word wisdom 16 times and the adjective of wise ten times. It clearly speaks about being of spirit in God and that makes you wise. I do not see anything about interpreting the Bible spiritually?

In 2 Cor 3:6-8 Paul is making the distinction between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant that is presented inside us by the Spirit.

RaymondG · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
Please tell me who gives authority to the spiritual meaning of the Bible, or do we accept it as we believe it to be. Is there different interpretations coming from the spirit and we chop and change it to make us feel good?

I do not see how the text you gave tells us the Bible is spiritual? In Corth Paul speaks about wisdom of the wise (1:19), wisdom of this world (1:20; 3:19), wisdom of men ect ect. Within the first 3 chapters he uses the word wisdom 16 times and the adjective of wise ten times. It clearly speaks about being of spirit in God and that makes you wise. I do not see anything about interpreting the Bible spiritually?

In 2 Cor 3:6-8 Paul is making the distinction between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant that is presented inside us by the Spirit.

I understand. Was good chatting with you. May God bless you on your journey to heaven

shinoobi · Apr 25, 2017

RaymondG said:
I understand. Was good chatting with you. May God bless you on your journey to heaven

Thank you, good chatting with you as well. I was hoping for more insight, really interested in how people view the Bible like you do. Nobody really gives answers, just ends the conversation, but thank you for your time.

May God bless you my friend.

RaymondG · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
Thank you, good chatting with you as well. I was hoping for more insight, really interested in how people view the Bible like you do. Nobody really gives answers, just ends the conversation, but thank you for your time.

May God bless you my friend.

The truth is never forced on anyone.......It is "known" then you are set free. Beware of those who tell you to believe everything they say without question and that everything else is false. The truth is at the top and Gods words will stand forever. Another doctrine does not have to be brought down for the truth to get to the top. One only needs to share the truth and it stands on its own.

You already said that one of my posts meant nothing to you....so what point would there be to go on about it? Jesus told the pharisee....how can I tell you about spiritual things when you dont even understand the natural.

Everyone must go at their own pace. Keep following what you believe until God tells you otherwise.

ExodusMe · Apr 25, 2017

@shinoobi you are the spiritual head of your future wife. Tell her if she wants to be with you then she has to convert. Ha.

PloverWing · Apr 25, 2017

I don't know enough about the Old Apostolic Church to evaluate it well. There does seem to be significant overlap with mainstream Christianity, at least, based on what you've said: They value the Bible, they try to follow Jesus, and their view of the atonement is one that some mainstream Christians have held (though it isn't the majority view). It sounds like they emphasize works more than grace in salvation, but I'd have to talk with them to see how deep the disagreement is there.

So I could imagine this working as an interdenominational or interfaith marriage, except for this:

shinoobi said:
I have to basically change to their religion if i ever want to marry her btw.

This I do not recommend. Your relationship with God takes priority over everything, including marriage (at least, it does in my life). If you are deeply convinced that your religious beliefs are correct, and that the beliefs of her church are mistaken, then stay with your religious beliefs and don't convert. Trying to lie to yourself about religious beliefs results in terrible mental tangles.

Is it possible that your companion would be willing to have an interdenominational marriage, in which you attend your church, she attends her church, you cooperate in those beliefs/practices that you share, and you respectfully disagree on those beliefs that you don't share? I've seen marriages like this work; there are several such couples in my own congregation.

JoeP222w · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
Hi Guys, I need some advice.

I am a Christian and I have seen some people differ in their belief as to exactly what Christians believe. My belief is that your salvation/ever lasting life is obtained through your faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross. That you are saved by faith and faith alone.

Now my problem is that I am in a relationship with a woman for a year and a half. She is Old Apostolic, the religion basically originated in South Africa.

They use the Bible, but they interpret it spiritually. They also go to church 6 days a week including twice on Sunday's. They are very faithful and their religion is held very high.

They also believe that you basically work through faith for your salvation and that is a fundamental difference. The other big difference is that they believe that Jesus was only an example that God sent us to show how to live, he had the gift of Christ in him and we must all strive to live like he did. When Jesus died he rose in the mind of people, so that Christ gift rose and not the physical body of Christ. So that being said they do not believe that Jesus will come again because he already came. They also believe that the Church is the body of Christ and thus when they refer to Jesus/the Son then they refer to the Church.

Before I met her I was single for a long time and asked Jesus to send me a faithful girl to spend my life with. I received exactly what i asked for, well exempt that her belief differs from mine.

I am not sure why it turned out like this and what to do. Why did God put me in this situation?

I have to basically change to their religion if i ever want to marry her btw.

Also they believe in Visions and Dreams and that is the way God speaks to us, the scary thing is that some of the dreams they spoke about actually happens exactly how it was seen. This is the only thing that makes me confused, because why will they get visions and dreams that is exactly to the point of how it was given. God warns them through visions and dreams, it actually makes one think.

They are not believing the Bible, and they sound very cultic. They deny Jesus is the Christ. They deny the bodily Resurrection. They do not sound like Christian at all.

It sounds very much like you need to hold off on continuing a relationship with her. Especially if they demand you join their religion in order to get married.

shinoobi · Apr 25, 2017

PloverWing said:
I don't know enough about the Old Apostolic Church to evaluate it well. There does seem to be significant overlap with mainstream Christianity, at least, based on what you've said: They value the Bible, they try to follow Jesus, and their view of the atonement is one that some mainstream Christians have held (though it isn't the majority view). It sounds like they emphasize works more than grace in salvation, but I'd have to talk with them to see how deep the disagreement is there.

So I could imagine this working as an interdenominational or interfaith marriage, except for this:

This I do not recommend. Your relationship with God takes priority over everything, including marriage (at least, it does in my life). If you are deeply convinced that your religious beliefs are correct, and that the beliefs of her church are mistaken, then stay with your religious beliefs and don't convert. Trying to lie to yourself about religious beliefs results in terrible mental tangles.

Is it possible that your companion would be willing to have an interdenominational marriage, in which you attend your church, she attends her church, you cooperate in those beliefs/practices that you share, and you respectfully disagree on those beliefs that you don't share? I've seen marriages like this work; there are several such couples in my own congregation.

Thank you for your reply, much appreciated. It could work yes, but the main problem I have is how do you raise children? We both want children and I would want to raise them the way I believe and I would not expect anything less from her side.

If it was not for this I would say yes indeed we can respect each others beliefs and agree to disagree.

GandalfTheWise · Apr 25, 2017

There are two things to consider.

There is first of all the very real work of God (through Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit) in our lives. This is the same for all Christians. Through faith, the Holy Spirit comes to live inside of us (with many Christians saying that they immediately felt different when this happened). Through faith, we walk with God in our lives and interact with Him. Prayer, Bible reading, fellowship, etc. are means of how we grow spiritually.
There is how we explain this work of God in our lives. This is where most disagreements occur. Two different denominations might point to one person and explain what God did in their life differently. There is little debate God did something. Christians argue about the how and why God did something.

God can and does start working in someone's life before they hold standard Christian beliefs. Cornelius in the book of Acts 10 is an example. His prayers and offerings could not save him, but God took note of those and supernaturally sent an angel to send for Peter to learn about Jesus Christ. God started working in all of our lives before we became aware of Him doing this.

In my opinion, being a Christian is first about becoming a new creation which will have tangible effects on us. Second, being a Christian, is then walking in this new life and growing and maturing. Growth and maturity will come through daily practice of spiritual disciplines such as prayer, Bible reading, meditation, fellowship, and in general, living a spiritually and physically healthy life style. As we grow, we come to know God better and better. As that happens, we learn more and more about who He is. Our priorities start to align more with His priorities. It is not about doing the right actions in order to become a Christian, but rather that the right actions will naturally flow from us because God has changed us. Over time, we understand and know God better and better. We start to acquire more wisdom and understanding of how and why God does things. Our set of beliefs become more and more rooted in knowing who God is rather than memorizing a list of core tenets of faith.

One way (not the only way, but one way) I would evaluate this group is the fruits of the people within it. Is it characterized by joy, love, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, (see Galatians 5:22)? Or is it primarily characterized by fear, legalism, coercion, isolation, bondage, or burdensome works? Is it about being changed from the inside and reflecting what God has done? Or is it about going through the motions of doing the right things as an act without being changed inside? Is it about joyfully and thankfully accepting God's grace (through the work of Jesus Christ)? Or is it about fearfully trying to be religious enough and do enough good works to avoid God's anger?

I hope this helps.

shinoobi · Apr 25, 2017

JoeP222w said:
They are not believing the Bible, and they sound very cultic. They deny Jesus is the Christ. They deny the bodily Resurrection. They do not sound like Christian at all.

It sounds very much like you need to hold off on continuing a relationship with her. Especially if they demand you join their religion in order to get married.

Thank you for your words, they are not forcing me, she wants to share a life with a husband who believes what she does and I get it. So it is more like she wants it like that and will not budge on that point.

Her church does respect others beliefs, but does try and get their message accross

drayanna · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
Hi Guys, I need some advice.

I am a Christian and I have seen some people differ in their belief as to exactly what Christians believe. My belief is that your salvation/ever lasting life is obtained through your faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross. That you are saved by faith and faith alone.

Now my problem is that I am in a relationship with a woman for a year and a half. She is Old Apostolic, the religion basically originated in South Africa.

They use the Bible, but they interpret it spiritually. They also go to church 6 days a week including twice on Sunday's. They are very faithful and their religion is held very high.

They also believe that you basically work through faith for your salvation and that is a fundamental difference. The other big difference is that they believe that Jesus was only an example that God sent us to show how to live, he had the gift of Christ in him and we must all strive to live like he did. When Jesus died he rose in the mind of people, so that Christ gift rose and not the physical body of Christ. So that being said they do not believe that Jesus will come again because he already came. They also believe that the Church is the body of Christ and thus when they refer to Jesus/the Son then they refer to the Church.

Before I met her I was single for a long time and asked Jesus to send me a faithful girl to spend my life with. I received exactly what i asked for, well exempt that her belief differs from mine.

I am not sure why it turned out like this and what to do. Why did God put me in this situation?

I have to basically change to their religion if i ever want to marry her btw.

Also they believe in Visions and Dreams and that is the way God speaks to us, the scary thing is that some of the dreams they spoke about actually happens exactly how it was seen. This is the only thing that makes me confused, because why will they get visions and dreams that is exactly to the point of how it was given. God warns them through visions and dreams, it actually makes one think.

Wow!
OK the best way to answer this is by points.
* what is a Christian. A Christian is one who follows Christ. (But there is more) to follow Christ you must die in the flesh. (You must realize you are in need of salvation for you are a sinner) you must know that Jesus Christ has come in the Flesh as the perfect lamb to die on the cross for all mankind to have a relationship with Our Heavenly Father in a very intimate way. The faith in Jesus is important for by Grace alone are you saved but as John explains clearly you are not the same as you were before because now you are in the body of Christ. The body of Christ is through the ones who have the Holy Spirit with them. Jesus Christ is at the right hand of Our Heavenly Father and the Holy Ghost resides with us. Two different purposes. As human and we continue to fight this battle with a sinful world. We now don't have to do it alone. We now have the Comforter. If we listen to Him He guides us clearly to the narrow path. If we were to rate the 12 disciples after Jesus died as to which walked a narrower path we would probably not agree for they all had certain gifts to accomplish God's Will but even so all were following Christ with the Holy Spirit because they followed the One who had shared all the gifts while He was with us, which are the 7 spirits of God. When you produce fruit of the Spirit you know you are right with God and listening to the Holy Spirit through The Word that speaks beyond the Holy Bible (why called the living word) as you read and ask for wisdom from God (not man) your eyes (spiritual eyes) will open and you will see as you do the actions of the Word your ears will hear (spiritual ears) when Jesus is speaking and you will follow that path. When you head down a wrong path your walk with Jesus through the Holy Spirit becomes stale and you miss your time with God and begin to grieve this is when you know time to begin again and cry out as David did. Call out and be willing to follow the path at all cost.
GOD first love neighbors second. This commandment most important for they complete all other commandments as Jesus said.
As for how one Worships or goes about their walk this differs depending on the call from Jesus. John was called to be the only disciple not to die a martyrs death. Yet Paul was called to die for The testimony he carried and will be rewarded as revelation speaks of in 5th seal. John was saved by boiling oil. John sat in the oil and was not burned. Nero sent him to Patmos. There was a purpose. The following of Jesus saw John saved from the oil and then when Nero died and John released John gives them the writing of revelation prophesy that when studied is in connection with all the prophets of old. This was the Body of Christ in that time line. All were important but all of the disciples of Jesus Christ had there purpose in their testimony of the Savior. The Word is spread through all the earth within 2000 years and here we are. Yet only the ones who know Jesus personally through the Holy Spirit are of the Body of Christ.
One who calls out to Jesus to save them only to not have to be left with the Devils plans for them are heard. However they do not follow Jesus Christ. They wanted salvation (healing) but to give up themselves (there desires, time, love, worship, money, ambitions) was not what they were willing to do. The servitude given is not what saves one by Jesus Christ however the desire to serve Jesus Christ is strong in one saved. Some want to serve so bad they begin to like the praise to much. Others (like me) get attacked often as being "Mrs goody two shoes" or judgmental or just not liked. This happened to the disciples often by those throwing rocks. Thankfully I have not been stoned but I sometimes go to far and deserve a rock or two.
So that they worship Jesus Christ everyday does not save them yet is a wonderful thing to do, as long as they are serving the Lamb of God as the one who saved them and they understand that Our Heavenly Father sent His son and wants them to do as Jesus did. And Jesus gave a new commandment to His disciples: (John 14:34) That you love one another as I have loved you.
GOD BLESS

Greg Merrill · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
Hi Guys, I need some advice.

I am a Christian and I have seen some people differ in their belief as to exactly what Christians believe. My belief is that your salvation/ever lasting life is obtained through your faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross. That you are saved by faith and faith alone.

Now my problem is that I am in a relationship with a woman for a year and a half. She is Old Apostolic, the religion basically originated in South Africa.

They use the Bible, but they interpret it spiritually. They also go to church 6 days a week including twice on Sunday's. They are very faithful and their religion is held very high.

They also believe that you basically work through faith for your salvation and that is a fundamental difference. The other big difference is that they believe that Jesus was only an example that God sent us to show how to live, he had the gift of Christ in him and we must all strive to live like he did. When Jesus died he rose in the mind of people, so that Christ gift rose and not the physical body of Christ. So that being said they do not believe that Jesus will come again because he already came. They also believe that the Church is the body of Christ and thus when they refer to Jesus/the Son then they refer to the Church.

Before I met her I was single for a long time and asked Jesus to send me a faithful girl to spend my life with. I received exactly what i asked for, well exempt that her belief differs from mine.

I am not sure why it turned out like this and what to do. Why did God put me in this situation?

I have to basically change to their religion if i ever want to marry her btw.

Also they believe in Visions and Dreams and that is the way God speaks to us, the scary thing is that some of the dreams they spoke about actually happens exactly how it was seen. This is the only thing that makes me confused, because why will they get visions and dreams that is exactly to the point of how it was given. God warns them through visions and dreams, it actually makes one think.

Right before coming on this site this morning, as I have been doing since joining it on April 5, I was going over my memory verses, and when I went over 2Co 11:13-15 I thought that I might read something on CF this morning that it could be shared with. Your post is the first I read, and I think this passage is appropriate.
In a nutshell my response to you would be "Drop this girl, because she and her church are way, way off base in regards to God's Word. "For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

faroukfarouk · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
Hi Guys, I need some advice.

I am a Christian and I have seen some people differ in their belief as to exactly what Christians believe. My belief is that your salvation/ever lasting life is obtained through your faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross. That you are saved by faith and faith alone.

Now my problem is that I am in a relationship with a woman for a year and a half. She is Old Apostolic, the religion basically originated in South Africa.

They use the Bible, but they interpret it spiritually. They also go to church 6 days a week including twice on Sunday's. They are very faithful and their religion is held very high.

They also believe that you basically work through faith for your salvation and that is a fundamental difference. The other big difference is that they believe that Jesus was only an example that God sent us to show how to live, he had the gift of Christ in him and we must all strive to live like he did. When Jesus died he rose in the mind of people, so that Christ gift rose and not the physical body of Christ. So that being said they do not believe that Jesus will come again because he already came. They also believe that the Church is the body of Christ and thus when they refer to Jesus/the Son then they refer to the Church.

Before I met her I was single for a long time and asked Jesus to send me a faithful girl to spend my life with. I received exactly what i asked for, well exempt that her belief differs from mine.

I am not sure why it turned out like this and what to do. Why did God put me in this situation?

I have to basically change to their religion if i ever want to marry her btw.

Also they believe in Visions and Dreams and that is the way God speaks to us, the scary thing is that some of the dreams they spoke about actually happens exactly how it was seen. This is the only thing that makes me confused, because why will they get visions and dreams that is exactly to the point of how it was given. God warns them through visions and dreams, it actually makes one think.

Hi; good to see you; Ephesians 2.8-9 is a great guide.

Bible Highlighter · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
Hi Guys, I need some advice.

I am a Christian and I have seen some people differ in their belief as to exactly what Christians believe. My belief is that your salvation/ever lasting life is obtained through your faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross. That you are saved by faith and faith alone.

Now my problem is that I am in a relationship with a woman for a year and a half. She is Old Apostolic, the religion basically originated in South Africa.

They use the Bible, but they interpret it spiritually. They also go to church 6 days a week including twice on Sunday's. They are very faithful and their religion is held very high.

They also believe that you basically work through faith for your salvation and that is a fundamental difference. The other big difference is that they believe that Jesus was only an example that God sent us to show how to live, he had the gift of Christ in him and we must all strive to live like he did. When Jesus died he rose in the mind of people, so that Christ gift rose and not the physical body of Christ. So that being said they do not believe that Jesus will come again because he already came. They also believe that the Church is the body of Christ and thus when they refer to Jesus/the Son then they refer to the Church.

Before I met her I was single for a long time and asked Jesus to send me a faithful girl to spend my life with. I received exactly what i asked for, well exempt that her belief differs from mine.

I am not sure why it turned out like this and what to do. Why did God put me in this situation?

I have to basically change to their religion if i ever want to marry her btw.

Also they believe in Visions and Dreams and that is the way God speaks to us, the scary thing is that some of the dreams they spoke about actually happens exactly how it was seen. This is the only thing that makes me confused, because why will they get visions and dreams that is exactly to the point of how it was given. God warns them through visions and dreams, it actually makes one think.

You Cannot Deny that Jesus Christ is God and Be Saved:

For the Scriptures clearly teach that Jesus is God. In fact, Scripture tells us to deny this is a salvation issue.

For Jesus said if you do not believe "I AM" [he], you will die in your sins. Jesus later explained to a crowd of Pharisees of how He was able to know of Abraham before He was born. Jesus said He was the "I AM" to them and they all went ape crazy at hearing that and wanted to stone Him for it (See John 8). For the "I AM" is the name of God in Exodus chapter 3.

Christ is both God and Man:

In the Incarnation, the "Living Word" (Second person of the Godhead of the Trinity) had taken on the flesh and blood body of a man within the genealogy of Adam by way of a virgin (Named Mary). Christ's Omniscience (i.e. to have all knowledge) was merely suppressed during the Incarnation so as to be like a man (limited in knowledge) (Philippians 2:6-9). For Christ was that like figure (type) of Adam (Romans 5:14), and both Adam and Jesus were limited in knowledge as a part of God's design for a certain amount of time.

Jesus said and did everything the Father told him to say and do. Jesus always pleased his Father. So He could be like a man who served God perfectly so as to be our substitute.

Yet, Jesus was not only just a man who was limited in knowledge, He could feel pain, get tired, and get hungry, -- Jesus was also the Son of God (Second person of the Godhead) who was Holy and perfect in everything He did. He quoted a Psalm of David (Psalms 22) not because He was speaking from some human side of Himself. The body was just a shell. For He said so Himself. It was a temple. Jesus was speaking as God but limited in knowledge (at times) because His divine attribute of Omniscience was suppressed in the Incarnation. When Christ had achieved His mission, there would have been no reason for Him not to have His Omniscience back. This mission was paying the penalty for sin on the cross, then conquering sin and death with his resurrection, then ascending to the Father (After He told Mary to touch Him not) so as to be our mediator and Heavenly High Priest.

Yet, the Scriptures say Jesus has the power as God (During His Earthly Ministry), as well.

#1. Jesus said He has power to raise the dead to life just as the Father had power to raise the dead.
#2. Hebrews talks about how Christ held all things together by the word of His power when He purged us of our sins.
#3. Jesus said, He would raise up this Temple (His body) three days later.
#4. Jesus had the power to forgive sins and give eternal life.
#5. Jesus had power to take away the sins of the entire world.
#6. Jesus Christ said wherever two or three are gathered in my name, there I am among them. This was said to the people he was around and not to just us today.
#7. Jesus received worship as God.

So Jesus is God; Not in name only but Jesus is God in power, as well.

The Trinity:

The Lord our God is one God and yet He also has a plural nature to Him, as well.

This is the one and only true God (John 17:3).

For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (1 John 5:7).

For the Bible teaches that there is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4) (1 Timothy 2:5) (Isaiah 45:5).

Yet, the Bible also teaches that there are distinctions within the Godhead or that there is a plural nature to God.

Here are a couple of quick points:

#1. The word Elohim (אֱלֹהִ֔ים) is both a singular and a plural noun.
#2. God refers to Himself in plural form (Genesis 1:26) (Genesis 3:22) (Genesis 11:7) (Isaiah 6:8).
#3. Plurality of God in New Testament (Matthew 28:19) (2 Corinthians 13:14) (John 14:16-20).
#4. Introductions to both the Son & Holy Spirit (Daniel 7:9,10,13,14) (John 14:16)
#5. Different persons of Godhead appear at one time (Luke 3:21-22)
#6. Distinctions of Wills (Luke 22:42).
#7. Conversations Between the Godhead (Psalm 2:1-12) (Psalm 45:6-7) (Psalm 110:1) (Matthew 11:27) (John 17:24).

However, so as to leave no room for doubt for you that Jesus is God Almighty (So as to be deceived by anyone saying so otherwise), here is some Scripture that declares that Jesus is God and that He is the Almighty.

Here is a great article on a list of verses that tell us this.
(See #45 and other numbers below).

160 Reasons Jesus Christ is Almighty God

By Thomas Golda

1. Jesus IS the visible image of the Invisible God - Colossians 1:15, II Corinthians 4:4...to see Jesus is to see the Invisible God - Mankind was created IN the image of God - Genesis 1:26...Jesus IS the image of God. To see Jesus is to see the Invisible God in the flesh.
2. Jesus was conceived by God - Luke 1:35, Matthew 1:20. Since Mary was his earthy mother, that makes Jesus fully human..since God was His physical Father, since Jesus did not have an earthy father, that makes Jesus fully God. He was fully man and fully God. The Great Godman.
3. To see Jesus' face is to see the glory of God - II Corinthians 4:6
4. Jesus "being in the form of God" makes Him God - Philippians 2:6
5. Jesus being the brightness of the Father's glory - Hebrews 1:3
6. Jesus is the exact image of the Father's Person - Hebrews 1:3
7. That is why to "see Jesus" is to "see the Father" - John 14:9, John 12:45
8. That is why Jesus said He and His Father are one - John 10:30
9. Jesus is IN the bosom of the Father - John 1:18. Not "on" the bosom"..not "near" the bosom...IN the bosom...He is in the center of the
Father. They are "one"
10. He is called EVERLASTING Father - Isaiah 9:6
11. Jesus deserves the SAME honour as the Father - John 5:23
12.Jesus was WORSHIPPED - Matthew 2:11, Matthew 9:12, Matthew 14:33, Matthew 28:9, Luke 24:52..Since only God is to be
worshipped - Matthew 4:10..that means Jesus is God.
13. Even angels WORSHIP Jesus - Hebrews 1:6
14. Heaven falls down before the Lamb - Revelation 5:8
15. Jesus Created ALL things - Colossians 1:16, Hebrews 1:2, John 1:3, Ephesians 3:9 ....God created all things - Acts 14:15, Isaiah
45:18, Isaiah 44:24, Isaiah 42:5. Jesus is God
16. Jesus also made the world - John 1:10. Jesus is God - Isaiah 44:18
17. Jesus created all things for HIMSELF - Colossians 1:16, Proverbs 16:4(Jesus is God)
18. By Jesus all things consist - Colossians 1:17
19. Jesus upholds all things - Hebrews 1:3
20. Jesus is before all things - Colossians 1:17
21. Jesus rules heaven and earth - Matthew 28:18. Jesus is God - II Chronicles 29:11
22. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath - Mark 2:28, Luke 6:5
23. Jesus called Himself the Great "I AM" - John 8:58, John 8:24...a quote from Exodus 3:14
24. In the body of Jesus dwells the fullness of the Godhead - Colossians 2:9
25. The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are THREE and they are ONE - I John 5:7
26. And this is all why Jesus is EQUAL WITH GOD - Philippians 2:6
27. Jesus was "God manifest in the flesh" - I Timothy 3:16
28. God was in Christ - Galatians 3:17, II Corinthians 5:19
29. Jesus is the Power of God and the Wisdom of God - I Corinthians 1:24
30. Jesus "only" hath immortality - I Timothy 6:16
31. Jesus is Lord of the living and the dead - Romans 14:9
32. Jesus is called the Saviour - Luke 2:11, Titus 1:4, Titus 2:13, Titus 3:3, II Peter 1:1, II Peter 1:11, II Peter 2:20, II Peter 3:18, I John
4:14
33. Only Jehovah God alone is the Saviour - Isaiah 43:11, Isaiah 45:15 , Hosea 13:4, I Timothy 2:2, Jude 1:25...that means Jesus is God.
34. Jesus ALONE is the Great Judge - John 5:22. The Judge is God - Hebrews 12:23, Revelation 18:8, Hebrews 13:4, Romans 2:3,5
Jesus is God. All the verses in the Bible that talk about God being the Judge refer to Jesus, since He alone judges. The Father
judges no man - John 5:22.
35. Jesus has the keys of hell and of death - Revelation 1:18. The one that can cast into hell is to be FEARED - Matthew 10:28, Luke
12:5 Only God is to be feared - Rev 14:7
36. Jesus is from EVERLASTING - Micah 5:2, Isaiah 9:6
37. Jesus has NO BEGINNING of days - Hebrews 7:3
38. Jesus is the SAME, yesterday, today and forever - Hebrews 13:8. A quote from Psalm 102:27. Jesus is God.
39. Jesus' is in the midst or the center of the throne of God - Rev 1:6
40. Jesus has the Greatest Name above every name ever named - Philippians 2:9
41. Jesus' name is the Greatest in the world to come as well - Ephesians 1:21
42. And it is before name of JESUS, not any other name including Jehovah, that the peoples of the earth and heaven and bowing before
- Philippians 2:10. Jesus is God - Isaiah 45:22-23
43. Only by the name JESUS can one be saved - Acts 4:10-12
44. Jesus is called the Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:11
45. Jesus who is the Alpha and Omega is the ALMIGHTY - Revelation 1:7-8
46. Jesus is called the King of kings - I Timothy 6:15. Jesus is the King - Zechariah 9:9. The King is God - I Timothy 1:17. Jesus is God
47. Jesus is called Lord of lords - I Timothy 6:15. God is called Lord of lords - Deut 10:17. Jesus is God
48. Christ is called the ROCK - I Corinthians 10:4. That is who Israel followed. The ROCK who Israel followed was GOD - Deut 32:3-4.
God is the Rock - Psalm 18:2 and only God is the Rock - Psalm 18:31. Christ is God.
49. Jesus calls Himself the FIRST AND THE LAST - Revelation 1:11,17. Only GOD is the FIRST AND THE LAST - Isaiah 44:6, Isaiah
48:12. Jesus is God.
50. Jesus knows all things (OMNIPOTENT) - John 2:24-25, John 4:29, John 6:64, John 16:30
51. Jesus is OMNIPRESENT - Matthew 18:20, Matthew 28:20
52. Jesus' body fills all (is omnipresent) - Ephesians 1:23
53. Jesus knows the hearts of men - Revelation 2:23
54. Jesus dwells in the hearts - Ephesians 3:17
55. And "liveth" in the believers - Galatians 2:20
56. Jesus knows the thoughts of men - Matthew 9:4, Luke 6:8
57. And Jesus will judge the "secrets" of men - Romans 2:16
58. God shed His blood - Acts 20:28
59. The cross is the "power of God" - I Corinthians 1:17-18
60. Jesus called the Kingdom of God His Kingdom - John 18:36
61. Jesus is the "Deliverer" of the believers from the wrath of God - I Thessalonians 1:10, Romans 11:26. Only God is the Deliverer from
the wrath of God - II Corinthians 1:9-10
62. In Jesus' name we TRUST - Ephesians 1:12-13, Matthew 12:21, Philippians 2:19. Only in God do we trust - Psalm 4:5, 7:1, 31:1,
73:28, Isaiah 26:4. Jesus is God.
63. Jesus is the TRUTH - John 14:6. Jesus is God - Psalm 31:5
64. Jesus sent the prophets - Matthew 23:34...God sent the prophets - Jeremiah 7:25. Jesus is God who sent the prophets.
65. Jesus is the Stone of stumbling - I Peter 2:8. A prophesy from Isaiah 8:13-14. God is the stone of stumbling. Jesus is God.
66. God is the fountain of living waters - Jeremiah 17:13....Jesus is the fountain of living waters - John 4:10-14
67. Jesus brings reward to the wicked for their works - Matthew 16:27. Jesus is God - Psalm 54:4-5, II Samuel 3:39.
68. The reward of salvation is "with Jesus" - Revelation 22:12. Jesus is God - Isaiah 62:11, Isaiah 40:10
69. Jesus gave power to His people - Luke 9:1. Jesus is God - Psalm 68:35
70. Jesus is called the HOLY ONE - Acts 3:14. Jesus is God - Isaiah 30:15, Isaiah 40:25, Isaiah 41:14, Isaiah 43:15
71. Jesus is the light - John 8:12. Jesus is God - Psalm 27:1
72. Jesus is the Husband of believers - Revelation 19:7,9, 21:2, 21:9. Jesus is God - Isaiah 54:5
73. Jesus gives us rest - Matthew 11:28. Jesus is God - Exodus 33:14
74. Jesus gathers the sheep - John 10:16. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 34:11
75. Jesus seeks and saves that which is lost - Luke 19:10. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 34:16
76. Jesus is the Shepherd - John 10:11,14. Jesus is God - Psalm 23:1
77. Jesus feeds the people and causes them to sit down - Mark 8:5-10, Matthew 14:19-21. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 34:15
78. The blood of Jesus cleanses us from sin - I John 1:7. God cleanses from sin - Psalm 51:2, Ezekiel 36:25.. Jesus is God
79. Redemption is from Jesus Christ - Romans 3:24, Colossians 1:14. Redemption is from God - Psalm 130:7. Jesus is God
80. Christ is the Redeemer - Galatians 4:5, Galatians 3:13, Revelation 5:9, Titus 2:14. God is the Redeemer - Jeremiah 31:11, Isaiah
41:14, Isaiah 44:22, Isaiah 44:6, Isaiah 44:24. Jesus is God
81. Jesus wrote new commandments with His finger - John 8:5-9. This is to show that He is God who wrote the 10 commandments with
His finger - Exodus 31:18
82. The Bible declares God. That God is Jesus who is written in all the scriptures - Luke 24:27, Luke 24:44, John 5:39, John 5:46
83. ALL things are by Jesus - I Corinthians 8:6
84. John the Baptist, the voice in the wilderness prepared the coming of the Lord - Matthew 3:3. A quote from Isaiah 40:3...He prepared
the coming of Jehovah God!!!!
85. Jesus forgave sin - Matthew 9:2, Mark 2:5....and only GOD can forgive sins - Mark 2:7. Only God can forgive sin where they are
atoned for it. Jesus is God.
86. Jesus forgave sins and healed diseases - Matthew 9:6. Only God can do that - Psalm 103:3
87. Jesus calmed the storm - Matthew 8:26...Only God can - Psalm 107:25
88. God was pierced - Zechariah 12:10...quoted again in John 19:37. Jesus is God
89. God was priced at 30 pieces of silver - Zechariah 11:12-13...quoted again in Matthew 27:9....Jesus is God.
90. Jesus returns again with His saints - I Thess. 3:13. A fulfillment of Zechariah 14:5 that says GOD will come with His saints. Jesus is
God.
91. The Jews wanted Jesus killed for the crime of Blasphemy - Matthew 26:65. In their minds He claimed to be God - John 10:33, and
Equal with God - John 5:18 and forgave as only God can do - Mark 2:7, Luke 5:21...that was blasphemy is their eyes - Mark 2:7,
Luke 5:21. Jesus by His words and actions claimed to be God...and that is why He was found guilty by the Jews of blasphemy.
92. Jesus raised Himself from the dead - John 2:19-21. John 10:17-18
93. Jesus will raise all the dead - John 6:39-40,44. God raises the dead both physically and spiritually - Ezekiel 37:12-14. Jesus is God
94. The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are one and the same. Christ is God - Romans 8:9
95. Jesus quickens (which means to make alive) - John 5:21. Only God can make someone alive - Ezekiel 37:5-6,9. Only God can
quicken - Psalm 80:18. Jesus is God.
96. One cannot serve God and mammon - Matthew 6:24. Only God is to be served - Romans 1:9. The One we serve is Jesus Christ -
Colossians 3:24.
97. Jesus is the one who "justifies" - Galatians 2:17. ONLY GOD can justifieth - Romans 8:33. Jesus is God.
98. Jesus "reveals" truth - Luke 10:22, Matthew 11:27. Only GOD can reveal truth - Philippians 3:15, I Corinthians 2:10. Jesus is God.
99. God will not share His glory with another - Isaiah 42:8, 48:11. But the Father glorifies the Son - John 17:1,5, John 12:23, John 13:31-
32. Jesus is God and He is ONE with the Father.
100. ONLY in the name of JESUS is their salvation. There is salvation is NONE OTHER - Acts 4:10-12, II Timothy 2:10. And salvation
belongs to GOD - Psalm 3:8, Jonah 2:9, Lamentations 3:26, Isaiah 52:10, Psalm 51:14. Since only in the name of Jesus is there
salvation and salvation belongs to God, that simply means Jesus is God.
101. Jesus chooses the elect - John 15:16. Jesus is God - I Thess. 2:13, I Cor. 1:27
102. Men are Jesus' disciples - John 13:35, John 15:8. Jesus is God - Isaiah 8:16
103. Jesus' voice is the sound of many waters - Revelation 1:15. Jesus is Almighty God - Ezekiel 43:2.
104. Jesus' feet are like fine brass - Revelation 1:15. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 1:7, Ezekiel 1:28
105. Jesus' name is the Word of God - Revelation 19:13
106. All grace comes from God - I Peter 5:10. Jesus is that God where all grace comes from - Rev 22:21, Romans 16:20, I Thess. 5:28,
II Thess. 3:18
107. Jesus comes with clouds - Rev 1:7, Matthew 24:30 - Jesus is God - Isaiah 19:1, Jeremiah 4:13, Numbers 11:25
108. Jesus is called God - John 1:1, Hebrews 1:8
109. Jesus is called The Great God - Titus 2:13
110. Jesus is called The Mighty God - Isaiah 9:6
111. Jesus is called The True God - I John 5:20
112. Jesus is "God with us" - Matthew 1:21
113. Jesus is called "My God" - John 20:28. Since there is "no other God" - Isaiah 45:5,21-22..that means Jesus is that God.
114. Jesus is called "our hope" - I Timothy 1:1. We hope in Jesus - I Cor. 15:19. We are to only hope in God - I Peter 1:21, Psalm 38:15.
Jesus is God.
115. Christ is our life - Colossians 3:4. Jesus is God - Psalm 42:8
116. Jesus is called Faithful - Revelation 19:11. Jesus is God - Deut 7:9
117. Jesus is called True - Revelation 19:11. Jesus is God - Romans 3:4
118. Israel temped Christ - I Corinthians 10:9. Jesus is God - Deut 6:16, Numbers 14:22.
119. Christ sent serpents and destroyed Israel - I Cor 10:9. Jesus is God - Numbers 21:6-7
120. Jesus rebukes and chastens - Revelation 3:19 - Jesus is God - Hebrews 12:5-7, Proverbs 3:11-12.
121. Jesus is the Author and Finisher of faith - Hebrews 12:2
122. God said "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness" - Genesis 1:26. The plurality refers to the Trinity. This is not talking
about the angels or heavenly host. Angels cannot create life. Secondly, nowhere is it indicated that angels are made in the image of
God. Third, there is no indication that mankind is created in the image of angels.
123. The plurality of the Trinity is also referred to in Genesis 3:22 and Isaiah 6:8. Jesus is God.
124. Before Jesus became man, He had glory with the Father before the world was - John 17:5
125. All things are given into Jesus' hand - John 3:35
126. Jesus is described as "WHICH WAS" dead, and "IS" alive - Revelation 2:8. The one who "which was" and "which is" is Almighty
God - Revelation 4:8, Revelation 1:8. Jesus is God.
127. The "Great Day" of the Wrath of the Lamb - Revelation 6:16-17 is the "Great Day" of God Almighty - Revelation 16:14. Jesus is the
Lamb who is God Almighty.
128. Jesus is the King - I Timothy 6:15, John 18:37. Jesus is the King who is called the "only wise God" - I Timothy 1:17
129. Jesus is called the "Just One" - Acts 22:14. Jesus is God - Isaiah 45:21
130. Jesus "gives" repentance - Acts 5:31, Acts 3:26. Jesus is God - II Timothy 2:25
131. Jesus reconciled all things to Himself - Colossians 1:20. Jesus is God - Romans 5:18-19
132. Jesus brings Judgment on the churches in Revelation 2 and 3. Jesus is God - Hebrews 10:30, Deuteronomy 32:35-36
133. God has a Father - Revelation 1:6. That God is Jesus Christ.
134. Jesus stilled the waves and rules the sea- Matthew 8:26-27, Mark 4:39-41. Jesus is God - Psalm 89:8-9
135. Jesus has eyes that are sent forth into all the earth - Revelation 5:6 - Jesus is God - II Chronicles 16:9
136. To know the love of Christ is to be filled with the fulness of God - Ephesians 3:19
137. Christ strengthens the believers - Philippians 4:13. Christ is God - Isaiah 40:29, Isaiah 41:10
138. In Christ's presence is fullness of joy - John 15:11. Jesus is God - Psalm 16:11
139. To see Jesus is to see the Father and to hate Jesus is to hate the Father as well - John 15:24, John 15:23
140. Jesus turns the water into wine - John 2:7-11. A creative act to show that Jesus is Creator God.
141. Jesus walks on water - John 6:19, Matthew 14:26, Mark 6:48 - Jesus is God - Psalm 93:4, Psalm 95:5, Psalm 72:8, Job 9:8
142. Jesus causes the blind to see - Matthew 9:27-30, Matthew 11:5, Mark 8:22-26, Mark 10:51-52. Jesus is God - Psalm 146:8, Isaiah
35:4-5
143. Jesus causes the deaf to hear - Matthew 11:5, Mark 7:32, Mark 7:37 - Jesus is God - Isaiah 35:4-5, Isaiah 43:7-8
144. Jesus causes the dumb to speak - Matthew 9:32-33, Matt 15:31, Mark 7:37, Luke 11:14. Jesus is God - Isaiah 36:6, Ezekiel 24:27,
Ezekiel 33:22
145. Jesus causes the lame to walk - Matthew 11:5, Mark 2:11, Luke 7:22 - Jesus is God - Isaiah 35:6
146. Jesus' face shines as the sun - Matthew 17:2. Jesus is God - Psalm 84:11, Malachi 4:2
147. Jesus will inherit all nations - Psalm 2:7-8. Jesus is God - Psalm 82:8
148. Jesus will rule all nations with a rod of iron - Revelation 12:5. Jesus is God - Isaiah 14:5-6
149. Jesus will smite all nations with a rod or iron. He is the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God - Revelation 19:15. He is Almighty
God who brings wrath.
150. Jesus and His Father established the ends of the earth - Proverbs 30:4
151. Jesus was without sin - II Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews 4:15, I Peter 2:22. Only God is without sin - Deuteronomy 32:4. Jesus is God
152. Jesus is ABOVE ALL - John 3:31
153. Jesus is GOD OVER ALL - Romans 9:5
154. Jesus is LORD OF ALL - Acts 10:36
155. The Lord God sent His angel to John - Rev 22:6. It is Jesus that sent His angel - Rev 22:16. Jesus is the Lord God.
156. Jesus is called the "Lord of Glory" - I Corinthians 2:8. Jesus is YHWH God - Psalm 24:8-10
157. Jesus gets glory now and forever - II Peter 3:18
158. The Father calls Jesus "LORD" who made heaven and earth - Hebrews 1:10
159. Heaven is God's throne and earth His FOOTSTOOL - Isaiah 66:1, Matthew 5:34-35. Jesus is God - Matthew 22:44, Hebrews 1:13
160. Every knee shall bow, and "every tongue" shall confess to GOD - Romans 14:11. The God "every tongue" is confessing to is
JESUS CHRIST - Philippians 2:11

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Bible Highlighter · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
Hi Guys, I need some advice.

I am a Christian and I have seen some people differ in their belief as to exactly what Christians believe. My belief is that your salvation/ever lasting life is obtained through your faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross. That you are saved by faith and faith alone.

Now my problem is that I am in a relationship with a woman for a year and a half. She is Old Apostolic, the religion basically originated in South Africa.

They use the Bible, but they interpret it spiritually. They also go to church 6 days a week including twice on Sunday's. They are very faithful and their religion is held very high.

They also believe that you basically work through faith for your salvation and that is a fundamental difference. The other big difference is that they believe that Jesus was only an example that God sent us to show how to live, he had the gift of Christ in him and we must all strive to live like he did. When Jesus died he rose in the mind of people, so that Christ gift rose and not the physical body of Christ. So that being said they do not believe that Jesus will come again because he already came. They also believe that the Church is the body of Christ and thus when they refer to Jesus/the Son then they refer to the Church.

Before I met her I was single for a long time and asked Jesus to send me a faithful girl to spend my life with. I received exactly what i asked for, well exempt that her belief differs from mine.

I am not sure why it turned out like this and what to do. Why did God put me in this situation?

I have to basically change to their religion if i ever want to marry her btw.

Also they believe in Visions and Dreams and that is the way God speaks to us, the scary thing is that some of the dreams they spoke about actually happens exactly how it was seen. This is the only thing that makes me confused, because why will they get visions and dreams that is exactly to the point of how it was given. God warns them through visions and dreams, it actually makes one think.

My advice. Break off the relationship immediately; And continue to ask God to bring you a truly Godly woman into your life.

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Jack Isaacks · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
Hi Guys, I need some advice.

The other big difference is that they believe that Jesus was only an example that God sent us to show how to live, he had the gift of Christ in him and we must all strive to live like he did. When Jesus died he rose in the mind of people, so that Christ gift rose and not the physical body of Christ. So that being said they do not believe that Jesus will come again because he already came.
Also they believe in Visions and Dreams and that is the way God speaks to us, the scary thing is that some of the dreams they spoke about actually happens exactly how it was seen. This is the only thing that makes me confused, because why will they get visions and dreams that is exactly to the point of how it was given. God warns them through visions and dreams, it actually makes one think.

What they believe about Jesus is clearly heretical.

If this woman were really "Old Apostolic," she would be Orthodox.

This sounds like a sub-Christian cult with merely Christian vocabulary, but re-defined.

As far as God speaking through dreams, the Bibl covers about 4000 years of human history, but there are only about a dozen dreams of spiritual significance. What does this tell you?

This "Christ idea" (as New Age sometimes calls it) is nothing more than gnosticism.

Keep looking and praying.

Christ is risen!

JoeP222w · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
Thank you for your words, they are not forcing me, she wants to share a life with a husband who believes what she does and I get it. So it is more like she wants it like that and will not budge on that point.

Her church does respect others beliefs, but does try and get their message accross

From what you wrote previously, she is believing in a false gospel and you really should not be in this kind of relationship with her.

I understand wanting to share her belief with her husband, but if that belief is in a lie that leads a person to Hell, that is not a relationship to pursue for the Christian.

Bible Highlighter · Apr 25, 2017

shinoobi said:
Hi Guys, I need some advice.

I am a Christian and I have seen some people differ in their belief as to exactly what Christians believe. My belief is that your salvation/ever lasting life is obtained through your faith in what Jesus did for us on the cross. That you are saved by faith and faith alone.

Now my problem is that I am in a relationship with a woman for a year and a half. She is Old Apostolic, the religion basically originated in South Africa.

They use the Bible, but they interpret it spiritually. They also go to church 6 days a week including twice on Sunday's. They are very faithful and their religion is held very high.

They also believe that you basically work through faith for your salvation and that is a fundamental difference. The other big difference is that they believe that Jesus was only an example that God sent us to show how to live, he had the gift of Christ in him and we must all strive to live like he did. When Jesus died he rose in the mind of people, so that Christ gift rose and not the physical body of Christ. So that being said they do not believe that Jesus will come again because he already came. They also believe that the Church is the body of Christ and thus when they refer to Jesus/the Son then they refer to the Church.

Before I met her I was single for a long time and asked Jesus to send me a faithful girl to spend my life with. I received exactly what i asked for, well exempt that her belief differs from mine.

I am not sure why it turned out like this and what to do. Why did God put me in this situation?

I have to basically change to their religion if i ever want to marry her btw.

Also they believe in Visions and Dreams and that is the way God speaks to us, the scary thing is that some of the dreams they spoke about actually happens exactly how it was seen. This is the only thing that makes me confused, because why will they get visions and dreams that is exactly to the point of how it was given. God warns them through visions and dreams, it actually makes one think.

Also, a person cannot also deny the resurrection of Jesus Christ and be saved, too.

"And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins." (1 Corinthians 15:17).

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