Scriptures that prove the Millennial Reign of Jesus Christ on Earth

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Matthew 19:28--And Jesus said unto them, Truly I say unto you, that ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Messieh comes in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Matthew 25:31--When the Messieh shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory.

This coming with power and great glory with his angels is well documented (Matthew 24:30-31). And that he sits on an earthly throne after this coming cannot be disproven. Right now, John saw him on a Throne in heaven. He is there as God and reigns as God on that throne. He has never ceased to be God and there has ever been a Kingdom of God in heaven. He said: Heaven is my throne and the earth is my footstool. But he also said to the Apostles his throne would be upon this earth. He brought this heavenly Kingdom to earth and he will reign here in person as the heir of David's throne in the millennial.

2Peter 3:8--But beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

In verse 7 it appears Apostle Peter had given a prophecy of the very end of the world when it would be destroyed. Then in retrospect of a time before that event he gives us the prophecy of the thousand years and equates it as one day with the Lord. He urges us not to be ignorant of this time frame of a day being equal to a thousand years.

Revelation 20:4--And I saw thrones, and they that sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus,and for the word of God,and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither has received his mark upon their foreheads, or upon their hands; and they lived and reigned with Messieh a thousand years.

Matthew 25:34--Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come ye blessed of God, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

1Corinthians 6:9--Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, etc. ect.

Revelation 21:7--They that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be their God, and they shall be my elect.

Revelation 5:10--And has made us unto God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 20:6--Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Messieh, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

It is obvious that the 1,000 years follows the resurrection. It is also obvious the 1,000 years is a time when death has no power over the Saints of God. This can only be after the second coming at which time it is said:

1Corinthians 15:54--So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

It is further obvious that the 1,000 years is after the first physical resurrection of those dead, after death has no power, that the resurrected Saints reign as Priests of God for one thousand years. The sequence must remain intact and in sequential order. The same 1,000 years the devil is bound is the same 1,000 years those who were martyred for not taking the mark of the beast are physically raised in a resurrection and reign with the Lord.

To say the 1,000 years runs concurrently or parallel with the Church is to say the physical resurrection of those who were martyred is past. The amillennialist have yet to prove there are resurrected martyrs in the world and have been here since their alleged 1,000 began. Such is demanded if the spiritualization of the 1,000 years as the Church age is correct. Are there many thousands of Saints who already have immortality and are deathless, and that they are now as Priest reigning with Messieh upon the earth?

The present Ministry of the Church are not reigning and are forbidden to be Lord's over God's heritage. They are nor deathless. And the resurrection and immortality have not come yet because Jesus has not returned. To have immortality here now is to say that Jesus has come already. And if he has, what of their end of the world when he comes. Why are we still here? Why has not the world ended? Please read on now as I bring forth more on this important endtime subject.


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every claim that jesus is physically coming back to reign over the earth is a denial of the gospel:

1) he never said he will be king over the earth, it is said he is king, and he is given all authority over heaven and earth at this moment.

2) if he will step down from the throne of god and come down again physically to reign from his own body it denies that
a) the church is his body
b) that the church are the kings and priest on earth
c) it denies jesus words which says it is good for us that he went to the throne of the father so that he could send his spirit so that both him and the father could dwell in all belivers. No where does it say this is one day going to STOP being true.

3) there is no "millennial reign" of christ. He is king of kings, lord of lords, "allmighty God, the everlasting father, prince of peace". There is no start and end to this fact, it is just a eternal fact, hence it is called the "eternal gospel". We can receive this or deny it, but we cant change the fact

The only place where a "milleniial reign" has been deducted is from rev 20.
But its not stated that christ will reign for a thousand years. Thats the first mistake, but this alone throws down the whole doctrine of a "thousand year kingdom".
The next error is this: This book is a book of metaphores, as the angels said he will come and show the things soon to happen in "signs" (greek semeion: symbols). SO it can not be a literal number.
The thousand years are not literal, just like the 666 or the 7 headed beast is not literal, it doesnt point to another number, It is prophetic symbolism as is the rest of the book.

He also owns the cattle on the thousand hills, but no one is foolish enough to interpret that to mean tehre is a thousand hills in teh world. Pls.

In fact the greek word for millennium was the largest number and symbolized the eternal. AS all kingdsom could stand more than decades or top centuries, there would be a kingdom that could stand for a thousand years. MEANING: there will be a kingdom that can no be destroyed by other kingdoms.

This is inline with daniels prophecy about the coming of the kingdom of christ that grew and was not overtaken like all the former kingdoms was. Daniels vision does not allow for a end for the kingdom of god, and we can not force this upon the kingdom in revelation either.
 
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It is further obvious that the 1,000 years is after the first physical resurrection of those dead, after death has no power, that the resurrected Saints reign as Priests of God for one thousand years. The sequence must remain intact and in sequential order. The same 1,000 years the devil is bound is the same 1,000 years those who were martyred for not taking the mark of the beast are physically raised in a resurrection and reign with the Lord.

To say the 1,000 years runs concurrently or parallel with the Church is to say the physical resurrection of those who were martyred is past. The amillennialist have yet to prove there are resurrected martyrs in the world and have been here since their alleged 1,000 began. Such is demanded if the spiritualization of the 1,000 years as the Church age is correct. Are there many thousands of Saints who already have immortality and are deathless, and that they are now as Priest reigning with Messieh upon the earth?

The present Ministry of the Church are not reigning and are forbidden to be Lord's over God's heritage. They are nor deathless. And the resurrection and immortality have not come yet because Jesus has not returned. To have immortality here now is to say that Jesus has come already. And if he has, what of their end of the world when he comes. Why are we still here? Why has not the world ended? Please read on now as I bring forth more on this important endtime subject.


Al you end up diong here is denying that the promises and facts declared clearly by the gospel can not be true until certain things have happened in the future.

Well all promises has their yes and amen in christ. IF you dont want to grow and become a preist and a king on earth releasing the power of god saving ppl from destruction, fine. But if your doctrine is hidnering others to do so.....good luck. You will be treated as jesus treated the pharasees who also denied that the kingdom already had come and is still waiting for it to this day.
 
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Revelation 20:6--Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Messieh, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

It is obvious that the 1,000 years follows the resurrection. It is also obvious the 1,000 years is a time when death has no power over the Saints of God. This can only be after the second coming at which time it is said:

1Corinthians 15:54--So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

It is further obvious that the 1,000 years is after the first physical resurrection of those dead, after death has no power, that the resurrected Saints reign as Priests of God for one thousand years. The sequence must remain intact and in sequential order. The same 1,000 years the devil is bound is the same 1,000 years those who were martyred for not taking the mark of the beast are physically raised in a resurrection and reign with the Lord.

You cannot have a pretrib resurrection/raptue of the Church and also a "first resurrection" of the body in Revelation chapter 20. This is a tremendous problem that must either be ignored or explained away by Dispensational Premill proponents.
If there was a pretrib rapture of the Church, it would be "the first resurrection" of the body.



There is also the problem of "the time of the judgment of the dead" in Revelation 11:18.
Based on John chapter 5, there are two types of resurrections.
The first is a spiritual resurrection found in John 5:24.
The second resurrection in John chapter 5, is in John 5:27-30 and is of the body.
This bodily resurrection of "all" the dead in John 5 is bracketed by verses making it clear that Christ is the judge.


1Co 15:22  For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 

1Co 15:23  But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ's at His coming.



Christ defeated sin and death at Calvary.
He is not going to rule over a world where sin and death remain when He returns. 


We are told by some that mortals will exist during the millennium and will live to a very old age, but some will still die.
When some of these mortals die, will Christ be the one who officiates their funeral service?
If Christ is here on earth, where will their souls go when they die?


We are also told by some that animal sacrifices will be renewed as a "memorial".
However, the Book of Hebrews makes it clear that animal sacrifices are finished.



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Matthew 19:28--And Jesus said unto them, Truly I say unto you, that ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Messieh comes in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Matthew 25:31--When the Messieh shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory.

This coming with power and great glory with his angels is well documented (Matthew 24:30-31). And that he sits on an earthly throne after this coming cannot be disproven. Right now, John saw him on a Throne in heaven. He is there as God and reigns as God on that throne. He has never ceased to be God and there has ever been a Kingdom of God in heaven. He said: Heaven is my throne and the earth is my footstool. But he also said to the Apostles his throne would be upon this earth. He brought this heavenly Kingdom to earth and he will reign here in person as the heir of David's throne in the millennial.

2Peter 3:8--But beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

In verse 7 it appears Apostle Peter had given a prophecy of the very end of the world when it would be destroyed. Then in retrospect of a time before that event he gives us the prophecy of the thousand years and equates it as one day with the Lord. He urges us not to be ignorant of this time frame of a day being equal to a thousand years.

Revelation 20:4--And I saw thrones, and they that sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus,and for the word of God,and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither has received his mark upon their foreheads, or upon their hands; and they lived and reigned with Messieh a thousand years.

Matthew 25:34--Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come ye blessed of God, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

1Corinthians 6:9--Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, etc. ect.

Revelation 21:7--They that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be their God, and they shall be my elect.

Revelation 5:10--And has made us unto God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Revelation 20:6--Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Messieh, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

It is obvious that the 1,000 years follows the resurrection. It is also obvious the 1,000 years is a time when death has no power over the Saints of God. This can only be after the second coming at which time it is said:

1Corinthians 15:54--So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

It is further obvious that the 1,000 years is after the first physical resurrection of those dead, after death has no power, that the resurrected Saints reign as Priests of God for one thousand years. The sequence must remain intact and in sequential order. The same 1,000 years the devil is bound is the same 1,000 years those who were martyred for not taking the mark of the beast are physically raised in a resurrection and reign with the Lord.

To say the 1,000 years runs concurrently or parallel with the Church is to say the physical resurrection of those who were martyred is past. The amillennialist have yet to prove there are resurrected martyrs in the world and have been here since their alleged 1,000 began. Such is demanded if the spiritualization of the 1,000 years as the Church age is correct. Are there many thousands of Saints who already have immortality and are deathless, and that they are now as Priest reigning with Messieh upon the earth?

The present Ministry of the Church are not reigning and are forbidden to be Lord's over God's heritage. They are nor deathless. And the resurrection and immortality have not come yet because Jesus has not returned. To have immortality here now is to say that Jesus has come already. And if he has, what of their end of the world when he comes. Why are we still here? Why has not the world ended? Please read on now as I bring forth more on this important endtime subject.


By Pastor G. Reckart



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every claim that jesus is physically coming back to reign over the earth is a denial of the gospel:

1) he never said he will be king over the earth, it is said he is king, and he is given all authority over heaven and earth at this moment.

2) if he will step down from the throne of god and come down again physically to reign from his own body it denies that
a) the church is his body
b) that the church are the kings and priest on earth
c) it denies jesus words which says it is good for us that he went to the throne of the father so that he could send his spirit so that both him and the father could dwell in all belivers. No where does it say this is one day going to STOP being true.

3) there is no "millennial reign" of christ. He is king of kings, lord of lords, "allmighty God, the everlasting father, prince of peace". There is no start and end to this fact, it is just a eternal fact, hence it is called the "eternal gospel". We can receive this or deny it, but we cant change the fact

The only place where a "milleniial reign" has been deducted is from rev 20.
But its not stated that christ will reign for a thousand years. Thats the first mistake, but this alone throws down the whole doctrine of a "thousand year kingdom".
The next error is this: This book is a book of metaphores, as the angels said he will come and show the things soon to happen in "signs" (greek semeion: symbols). SO it can not be a literal number.
The thousand years are not literal, just like the 666 or the 7 headed beast is not literal, it doesnt point to another number, It is prophetic symbolism as is the rest of the book.

He also owns the cattle on the thousand hills, but no one is foolish enough to interpret that to mean tehre is a thousand hills in teh world. Pls.

In fact the greek word for millennium was the largest number and symbolized the eternal. AS all kingdsom could stand more than decades or top centuries, there would be a kingdom that could stand for a thousand years. MEANING: there will be a kingdom that can no be destroyed by other kingdoms.

This is inline with daniels prophecy about the coming of the kingdom of christ that grew and was not overtaken like all the former kingdoms was. Daniels vision does not allow for a end for the kingdom of god, and we can not force this upon the kingdom in revelation either.


Baloney! Do you ever pray the following Lord's prayer? What do you think you are praying for? The following Scriptural facts refute you.

Mt.6: 9 “This, then, is how you should pray:
“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.

11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation,[a]
but deliver us from the evil one."[b]’

Mt.24:30: "Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory."

The following is Jesus return to he earth from heaven to fight the battle of Armageddon with His armies from heaven. His opponents will be the two beasts/antichrist and False Prophet and the ten horns/nations allied to them. Do you think the battle of Armageddon is going to be fought in heaven? Review Rev.14:14-20 to see the horrible results.

Rev.19:11 "And I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse, and He who sat on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and wages war. 12 His eyes are a flame of fire, and on His head are many diadems; and He has a name written on Him which no one knows except Himself. 13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies which are in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, were following Him on white horses. 15 From His mouth comes a sharp sword, so that with it He may strike down the nations, and He will [d]rule them with a rod of iron; and He treads the [e]wine press of the fierce wrath of God, the Almighty. 16 And on His robe and on His thigh He has a name written, “KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.”

17 Then I saw [f]an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice, saying to all the birds which fly in midheaven, “Come, assemble for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings and the flesh of [g]commanders and the flesh of mighty men and the flesh of horses and of those who sit on them and the flesh of all men, both free men and slaves, and small and great.”

19 And I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies assembled to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army.

Doom of the Beast and False Prophet


20 And the beast was seized, and with him the false prophet who performed the signs [h]in his presence, by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image; these two were thrown alive into the lake of fire which burns with [i]brimstone. 21 And the rest were killed with the sword which came from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse, and all the birds were filled with their flesh."

Confirming Zech.14:4-5:

4 "On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake[a] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him."

If the above is not enough to convince you, there is much more I can add to it, such as the following:

http://deeperwalk.lefora.com/topic/4144092/Jesus-Kingdom-will-be-1000-years-right-here-on-the-earth#.WPgl6OSGNpw



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Confirming Zech.14:4-5:

4 "On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake[a] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him."


You seem to not comprehend the magnitude of the event described above.
When His sinless foot comes down and touches this rotten, sin-cursed world it will produce the greatest earthquake in the history of the planet.
He is the Seed of the woman and His foot contains the heel bone that was bruised, as described in Genesis 3:15.


Heel bone of crucified man
In a stone box, the only trace of crucifixion

Do you have any idea what will happen to the wicked who remain on the surface of the planet?

It will begin a sequence of changes in the planet that will bring in the New Heavens and the New Earth that Peter was looking for in 2 Peter chapter 3.
Peter said it will occur on "the day of the Lord" when He "comes as a thief".
This connects it to the event described by Paul in the famous passage of 1 Thessalonians chapters 4 and 5 and Armageddon at Revelation 16:15-16.


Rev_6:12  I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.
Rev 6:13  And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 
Rev_6:14  Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. (How powerful is an earthquake that moves every mountain and island out of its place, and how many humans would survive that type of event?)

Rev_8:5  Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and threw it to the earth. And there were noises, thunderings, lightnings, and an earthquake.

Rev_11:13  In the same hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell. In the earthquake seven thousand people were killed, and the rest were afraid and gave glory to the God of heaven.

Rev_11:19  Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail.

Rev_16:18  And there were noises and thunderings and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such a mighty and great earthquake as had not occurred since men were on the earth.
Rev 16:19  Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath. 
Rev_16:20  Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

Did you comprehend that last verse?
The mountains are "not found".
Imagine an event that would destroy the mountains of our planet and you will begin to understand what will happen when He returns to lay claim to the world that He paid for at Calvary with His precious Blood.


If you think He is going to reign over a world where sin and death remain, you may want to go back and read your New Testament again.
When His foot touches this planet the curse that came in at the garden of Eden cannot remain.


The Seed of the woman has made all things right.
He defeated both death and sin almost 2,000 years ago.


He is risen from the dead!

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You seem to not comprehend the magnitude of the event described above.
When His sinless foot comes down and touches this rotten, sin-cursed world it will produce the greatest earthquake in the history of the planet.
He is the Seed of the woman and His foot contains the heel bone that was bruised, as described in Genesis 3:15.


Heel bone of crucified man
In a stone box, the only trace of crucifixion

Do you have any idea what will happen to the wicked who remain on the surface of the planet?

It will begin a sequence of changes in the planet that will bring in the New Heavens and the New Earth that Peter was looking for in 2 Peter chapter 3.
Peter said it will occur on "the day of the Lord" when He "comes as a thief".
This connects it to the event described by Paul in the famous passage of 1 Thessalonians chapters 4 and 5 and Armageddon at Revelation 16:15-16.


Rev_6:12  I looked when He opened the sixth seal, and behold, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood.
Rev 6:13  And the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree drops its late figs when it is shaken by a mighty wind. 
Rev_6:14  Then the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up, and every mountain and island was moved out of its place. (How powerful is an earthquake that moves every mountain and island out of its place, and how many humans would survive that type of event?)

Rev_8:5  Then the angel took the censer, filled it with fire from the altar, and threw it to the earth. And there were noises, thunderings, lightnings, and an earthquake.

Rev_11:13  In the same hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell. In the earthquake seven thousand people were killed, and the rest were afraid and gave glory to the God of heaven.

Rev_11:19  Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail.

Rev_16:18  And there were noises and thunderings and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such a mighty and great earthquake as had not occurred since men were on the earth.
Rev 16:19  Now the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. And great Babylon was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of His wrath. 
Rev_16:20  Then every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

Did you comprehend that last verse?
The mountains are "not found".
Imagine an event that would destroy the mountains of our planet and you will begin to understand what will happen when He returns to lay claim to the world that He paid for at Calvary with His precious Blood.


If you think He is going to reign over a world where sin and death remain, you may want to go back and read your New Testament again.
When His foot touches this planet the curse that came in at the garden of Eden cannot remain.


The Seed of the woman has made all things right.
He defeated both death and sin almost 2,000 years ago.


He is risen from the dead!

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Quasar92 quote directly from the Bible:
Zech.14:4 "On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south.5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake[a] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him."

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You seem to not comprehend the magnitude of the event described above.
When His sinless foot comes down and touches this rotten, sin-cursed world it will produce the greatest earthquake in the history of the planet.
He is the Seed of the woman and His foot contains the heel bone bruised, as described in Genesis 3:15.
Do you have any idea what will happen to the wicked who remain on the surface of the planet?


LOL! I will accept the Biblical description of the event over and above your claim to have a better one.

Furthermore, your blaze remark that, "I don't seem to comprehend the magnitude of the event," is egotistical nonsense. I am a qualified a of the Bible with earned qualifications to do so. And where, may I ask, did you obtain yours?


Prophecy is not interpreted by allegorical spiritualizing it, but rather, literally, as the prophecies are originated.


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LOL! I will accept the Biblical description of the event over and above your claim to have a better one.

Furthermore, your blaze remark that, "I don't seem to comprehend the magnitude of the event," is egotistical nonsense. I am a qualified a of the Bible with earned qualifications to do so. And where, may I ask, did you obtain yours?

I agree with accepting the Biblical description.
It will take the one found in 2 Peter chapter 3, instead of the one found in the "Left Behind" series.


You keep throwing out your credentials, as if they make your "Left Behind" version correct.

My qualification in this case comes directly from Peter, an Apostle of Christ.

My qualification does not come from the dead men buried in the Seminaries.


 
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Do you ever pray the following Lord's prayer? What do you think you are praying for? The following Scriptural facts refute you.

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10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.

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Not at all, if he is teaching his disciples to pray the kingdom coming on earth now, rather than waiting for it on a uncertain date 2000 years in the future...he is just changing their perspective as they, as jews, were still waiting for the kingdom of heaven - it is then definitly not a refutation but a confirmation of waht im saying.
Yes i pray this, this is the verse that im buillding on, just second to the "the kingdom is here" proclamations of jesus, who literally is defined as his "gospel" in the bible. TO say we must stil wait for it, is a denial of the gospel, its simply clear as day in scripture.

I can go further into the grammar of this prayer juesus taught, and show it is a present tense "letting" the kingdom come, not prayer for god to do something in the future. and we could go on and on

i can also go trough matt 24 and the book of relevation too and opint our error after error, but there is no point, this alone should be enjough for a honest believer to change his view.
 
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I agree with accepting the Biblical description.
It will take the one found in 2 Peter chapter 3, instead of the one found in the "Left Behind" series.


You keep throwing out your credentials, as if they make your "Left Behind" version correct.

My qualification in this case comes directly from Peter, an Apostle of Christ.

My qualification does not come from the dead men buried in the Seminaries.




Listen carefully: You are bearing false witness against me for claiming my proprietary work comes from Tim LaHaye's "Falling Behind," book, which I have never as much as read. Either prove the Scriptural facts I have posted are false with supporting Scripture, or get out of the kitchen where it is to hot for you to handle.

Your ongoing obsession of cutting the literal interpretation of Prophecy, as most Dispensationalists do, low, is more of the same. Bearing false witness of claims you don't stand a snowball in hell of proving to be false!

Your allegorical musings of interpreting prophecy is an example of rewriting the Scriptures t say something they do not say!

Keep your focus on the subject of the posts, not on the posters!


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Listen carefully: You are bearing false witness against me for claiming my proprietary work comes from Tim LaHaye's "Falling Behind," book, which I have never as much as read. Either prove the Scriptural facts I have posted are false with supporting Scripture, or get out of the kitchen where it is to hot for you to handle.

Your ongoing obsession of cutting the literal interpretation of Prophecy, as most Dispensationalists do, low, is more of the same. Bearing false witness of claims you don't stand a snowball in hell of proving to be false!

Your allegorical musings of interpreting prophecy is an example of rewriting the Scriptures t say something they do not say!

Keep your focus on the subject of the posts, not on the posters!

Try to reduce the hyperbole ("snowball in hell") if you want us to focus on the text.

Literal interpretation does not come from adding an antichrist and a "gap" to Daniel chapter 9, neither of which were mentioned by the angel Gabriel.

Literal would be reading the words "New Covenant" in the scripture below, instead of attempting to ignore it to make your doctrine work.

Jer_31:31  "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—

Mat_26:28  For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Mar_14:24  And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.

Luk_22:20  Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.

1Co_11:25  In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."

2Co_3:6  who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Heb_8:8  Because finding fault with them, He says: "BEHOLD, THE DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH—

Heb_8:13  In that He says, "A NEW COVENANT," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Heb_9:15  And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

Heb_12:24  to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.

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Prophecy is not interpreted by allegorical spiritualizing it, but rather, literally, as the prophecies are originated.

Well...a great number of prophecies are delivered as allegories. The problem with Amillennialism isn't so much the symbolic interpretation as it is the fact that, in going down that road it becomes mired in necessarily making symbols of symbols of actual events. One layer of symbolism is good enough, but when you have to crack one code just to find another code, then it's safe to say that no one knows anything.

Premillennialism has its problems, too, but I'm not in the mood to shoot down the whole world right now, if you'll forgive me.
 
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Try to reduce the hyperbole ("snowball in hell") if you want us to focus on the text.

Literal interpretation does not come from adding an antichrist and a "gap" to Daniel chapter 9, neither of which were mentioned by the angel Gabriel.

Literal would be reading the words "New Covenant" in the scripture below, instead of attempting to ignore it to make your doctrine work.

Jer_31:31  "Behold, the days are coming, says the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—

Mat_26:28  For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.

Mar_14:24  And He said to them, "This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.

Luk_22:20  Likewise He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood, which is shed for you.

1Co_11:25  In the same manner He also took the cup after supper, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in My blood. This do, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me."

2Co_3:6  who also made us sufficient as ministers of the new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.

Heb_8:8  Because finding fault with them, He says: "BEHOLD, THE DAYS ARE COMING, SAYS THE LORD, WHEN I WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL AND WITH THE HOUSE OF JUDAH—

Heb_8:13  In that He says, "A NEW COVENANT," He has made the first obsolete. Now what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

Heb_9:15  And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.

Heb_12:24  to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel.

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Would you care to tell me when Israel accepted the New Covenant, genius! I take a very dim view of someone on an ego trip trying to tell me, a WWII vet how he should post at a Christian discussion forum website. FYI, I have been participating on them now for 17 years and have a site of my own as well. When people are unable to field their own views from being Scripturally refuted, they always end up attacking their opponent personally. Capiche?!


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Well...a great number of prophecies are delivered as allegories. The problem with Amillennialism isn't so much the symbolic interpretation as it is the fact that, in going down that road it becomes mired in necessarily making symbols of symbols of actual events. One layer of symbolism is good enough, but when you have to crack one code just to find another code, then it's safe to say that no one knows anything.

Premillennialism has its problems, too, but I'm not in the mood to shoot down the whole world right now, if you'll forgive me.

The issue is far less the differences between amillenialism and historic premillenialism, and far more the differences between both, and dispensationalism. Amil and historic premil (the premil prior to the 19th century) have far more that unites them than divides them, the only significant difference being the former’s persuasion that Christ’s reign is exclusively spiritual in the hearts of believers; the latter’s that there will also be a literal reign.

Neither amil nor historic premil knew anything of the cultic modernist doctrines first appearing in the declarations of the new genre of dispensationalism in the first half of the 19th century. Pretribulation rapture, a singular futurized Antichrist, 70th week postponement, kingdom of God/Heaven postponement, ethnicity as a covenant criterion, separate prophetic programs for the Jew and the Church, untenably rigid literalization, and claims of unfulfilled OT promises; are representative of the dogmas characterizing the dispensational genre. These were all unrecognized in the historical true Christian Church, desperate attempts of dispensational proponents to prove otherwise notwithstanding.

The Protestant Reformation was of utmost significance in reclaiming and proclaiming the contra-dispensational prophetic faith of the early post-apostolic Church fathers, and thereby lighting a candle to dispel the spiritual darkness which had enveloped much of the Church over the previous centuries.

It is the aforementioned dispensational doctrines which must be challenged and repudiated within the contemporary Christian Church. Only then can she become the glorious Church without spot or wrinkle who must precede Christ’s return.
 
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Not at all, if he is teaching his disciples to pray the kingdom coming on earth now, rather than waiting for it on a uncertain date 2000 years in the future...he is just changing their perspective as they, as jews, were still waiting for the kingdom of heaven - it is then definitly not a refutation but a confirmation of waht im saying.
Yes i pray this, this is the verse that im buillding on, just second to the "the kingdom is here" proclamations of jesus, who literally is defined as his "gospel" in the bible. TO say we must stil wait for it, is a denial of the gospel, its simply clear as day in scripture.

I can go further into the grammar of this prayer juesus taught, and show it is a present tense "letting" the kingdom come, not prayer for god to do something in the future. and we could go on and on

i can also go trough matt 24 and the book of relevation too and opint our error after error, but there is no point, this alone should be enjough for a honest believer to change his view.


If you truly seek the Scriptural truth, then I suggest you cast the views aside that you obtained them from and learn what the Bible says and means, as the following clearly reveals:

Jesus is returning to reign on earth because the Old Testament prophets say so.

1) The Psalms

  • Psalm 2:6-9 — David says the Messiah will reign over “the very ends of the earth” from Mount Zion in Jerusalem.

  • Psalm 22:27-31 — David again affirms that the Messiah will be given dominion over “the ends of the earth” at the time when He “rules over the nations.”
  • Psalm 47 — The sons of Korah rejoice over the day when the Lord will be “a great King over all the earth,” and they state that this will take place when the Lord subdues the “nations under our feet.”
  • Psalm 67 — An unidentified psalmist speaks prophetically of the time when the nations of the world will “be glad and sing for joy.” This will be when the Lord comes to “judge the peoples with uprightness.” At that time the Lord will “guide the nations on the earth” so that “all the ends of the earth may fear Him.”

  • Psalm 89:19-29 — The psalmist, Ethan, speaks of the Davidic Covenant and proclaims that it will be fulfilled when God makes His “first-born the highest of the kings of the earth.”
  • Psalm 110 — David says a time will come when God will make the enemies of the Messiah a footstool under His feet. This will occur when the Messiah stretches forth His “strong scepter from Zion.” At that time He will “rule in the midst of His enemies,” for… “He will shatter kings in the day of His wrath, He will judge among the nations.”

  • Psalm 132:13-18 — An unnamed psalmist speaks of God’s fulfillment of the Davidic Covenant. He says this will occur at a time when “the horn of David” springs forth to reign from Zion. He says “His crown will shine,” and He will make Zion His “resting place forever” for He will dwell there.
2) Isaiah
  • Isaiah 2:1-4 — Isaiah says that “in the last days” the Messiah will reign from Mount Zion in Jerusalem and the entire world will experience peace.

  • Isaiah 9:6-7 — The Messiah will rule from the throne of David, giving the world a government of peace, justice, and righteousness. (Note: The throne of David is not in Heaven. It is located in Jerusalem — see Psalm 122. Jesus is not now on the throne of David. He sits at the right hand of His Father on His Father’s throne — see Revelation 3:21.)

  • Isaiah 11:3b-9 — The Messiah will bring “righteousness and fairness” to the earth when He returns to “slay the wicked.” At that time, the curse will be lifted and the plant and animal kingdoms will be restored to their original perfection.

  • Isaiah 24:21-23 — When the Messiah returns, He will punish Satan and his demonic hordes in the heavens and then will punish “the kings of the earth, on earth.” He will then “reign on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem” for the purpose of manifesting His glory.
3) Jeremiah
  • Jeremiah 23:5 — “‘Behold, the days are coming,’ declares the Lord, ‘when I shall raise up for David a righteous Branch; and He will reign as king and act wisely and do justice and righteousness in the land.'” (Note: The term, “Branch,” is a Messianic title.)
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  • eremiah 33:6-18 — A day will come when the Lord will regather the dispersed of both Judah and Israel and will save a great remnant. At that time the Lord “will cause a rigthteous Branch of David to spring forth; and He shall execute justice and righteousness on the earth.”
4) Ezekiel
  • Ezekiel 20:33-44 — The Lord says a day will come when He will regather the Jews to their land and will “enter into judgment” with them. He says that at that time “I shall be king over you.” He then adds that “the whole house of Israel, all of them, will serve Me in the land.”

  • Ezekiel 37:24-28 — The Lord says that He will dwell in the midst of Israel after a remnant of the Jews is regathered to the land and saved, and He promises that “David My servant shall be their prince forever.”

  • Ezekiel 39:21-29 — The Lord says that following the battle of Armageddon (verses 17-20), “I will set My glory among the nations; and all the nations will see My judgment which I have executed, and My hand which I have laid on them.”

  • Ezekiel 43:7 — While being given a tour of the future Millennial Temple, Ezekiel is told by the Lord: “Son of man, this is the place of My throne and the place of the soles of My feet; where I will dwell among the sons of Israel forever.”
5) Daniel
  • Daniel 7:13-14,18,27 — Daniel says he was given a vision in which he saw the Messiah (“Son of Man”) given dominion over all the earth by God the Father (“the Ancient of Days”). And then he adds in verses 18 and 27 that the kingdom is shared “with the saints of the Highest One,” and they are allowed to exercise sovereignty with Him over “all the kingdoms under the whole heaven.”
6) Hosea
  • Hosea 3:4-5 — The Jews will be set aside “for many days,” but a time will come “in the last days” when they “will return and seek the Lord their God and David their king.”
7) Joel
  • Joel 3:14-17,21 — Joel says that following the battle of Armageddon (verses 14-16), the Lord will dwell “in Zion, My holy mountain.” He repeats this in verse 21. And in verse 17 He identifies Zion as the city of Jerusalem.
8) Micah
  • Micah 4:1-7 — Micah repeats in greater detail the prophecy contained in Isaiah 2. Like Isaiah, he says the Lord will make Jerusalem the capital of the world. The world will be flooded with peace and prosperity. All believing Jews will be regathered to Israel, and “the Lord will reign over them in Mount Zion.”
9) Zephaniah
  • Zephaniah 3:14-20 — This entire book is devoted to a description of the day the Lord will return to the earth in vengeance. The prophet says that at the end of that day, when the Lord’s enemies have been destroyed, the Jewish remnant will shout in triumphant joy because “the King of Israel, the Lord,” will be in their midst.
10) Haggai
  • Haggai 2:20-23 — The Lord says that a day will come when He will “overthrow the thrones of kingdoms and destroy the power of the kingdoms of the nations.” Then, using Zerubbabel, governor of Judah, as a type of the Messiah, the prophet adds: “‘On that day,’ declares the Lord of hosts, ‘I will take you, Zerubbabel, son of Shealtiel, my servant,’ declares the Lord, ‘and I will make you like a signet ring, for I have chosen you,’ declares the Lord of hosts.” The reference to the signet ring means the Father will grant His Son ruling authority.
11) Zechariah
  • Zechariah 2:10-13 — The Lord says that when He comes, He will “dwell in the midst” of the Jews, possessing Judah as “His portion in the holy land” and again choosing Jerusalem.

  • Zechariah 6:12-13 — When the Messiah (“the Branch”) returns, He will build a temple and “rule on His throne,” and the offices of priest and king will be combined in Him. Thus, “He will be a priest on His throne.”

  • Zechariah 8:2-3 — The Lord promises that when He returns to Zion, He will “dwell in the midst of Jerusalem,” and Jerusalem will be called “the city of Truth.”<

  • Zechariah 9:10 — The Messiah will bring peace to the nations and “His dominion will be from sea to sea.”

  • Zechariah 14:1-9 — The Messiah will return to the Mount of Olives. The Mount will split in half when His foot touches it, and the Jewish remnant left alive in Jerusalem will flee the city and hide in the cleavage of the Mount. Verse 9 says that on that day, “the Lord will become king over all the earth.”
Jesus is returning to reign over the earth because the New Testament prophets say so.

1) Peter
  • Acts 3:21 — In his sermon on the portico of Solomon, Peter says Jesus must remain in Heaven “until the period of the restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time.” The period of restoration spoken of here will occur during the Millennium when the curse is partially lifted and nature is restored (Romans 8:18-23).
2) Paul
  • 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 — Paul says that when Jesus returns “dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel,” He will also come for the purpose of being glorified before His saints. The return of Jesus to be glorified before His saints and all the nations of the world is one of the persistent themes of Old Testament prophecy (Isaiah 24:23, Isaiah 52:10,13, Isaiah 61:3, and Psalm 46:10).

  • 2 Timothy 2:12 — Paul says “if we endure, we shall also reign with Him.”
3) John
  • Revelation 12:5 — John sees a vision in which a sun clothed woman (Israel) gives birth to a male child (Jesus) “who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron.”

  • Revelation 19:15-16 — In his description of Jesus returning to earth, John says He bears the title, “King of kings and Lord of lords,” and John says He will “rule the nations with a rod of iron.”

  • Revelation 20:4,6 — John says that after the return of Jesus to the earth, He will reign with His saints (“those to whom judgment has been given”) for a thousand years.
Jesus is returning to earth to reign because the Heavenly Host say so.

1) Gabriel
  • Luke 1:26-38 — When the archangel Gabriel appeared to Mary, he told her that she would bear a son named Jesus who would be called “the Son of the Most High.” He then added three promises that are yet to be fulfilled: “the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David; and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever; and His kingdom will have no end.”
2) The Four Living Creatures and the 24 Elders
  • Revelation 5:9-10 — When John is raptured to Heaven and finds himself standing before the throne of God (Revelation 4), he hears “the four living creatures” (special angelic creatures called seraphim in Isaiah 6) and “the twenty-four elders” (probably representative of the redeemed) singing a song of praise to Jesus. In this song they say that Jesus is a Worthy Lamb who has made His redeemed a kingdom, “and they will reign upon the earth.”
3) The Angels of God
  • Revelation 11:15 — Voices from Heaven make a proleptic proclamation in the midst of the Tribulation: “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord, and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever.” (Note: A proleptic statement is one that speaks of a future event as if it has already occurred. This is a common form of expression in prophecy because all future events are settled in the mind of God as if they had already happened in history.)
4) The Tribulation Martyrs
  • Revelation 15:3-4 — At the end of the Tribulation, right before the final pouring out of God’s wrath in the form of the bowl judgments, all the Tribulation martyrs who are in Heaven join together in singing “the song of Moses… and the song of the Lamb.” In that song, they declare the Lamb (Jesus) to be the “King of the nations,” and they proclaim that “all the nations will come and worship before Thee.”
Jesus is returning to reign on the earth because Jesus said so.
  • Matthew 19:28 — Jesus said that during “the regeneration” (the same time as “the period of restoration” referred to by Peter in Acts 3:21), He will “sit on His glorious throne,” and the Apostles will join Him in judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

  • Matthew 25:31 — Jesus said that when He returns in glory, “the Son of Man… will sit on His glorious throne. And all the nations will be gathered before Him” for judgment. The throne of Jesus is the throne of David which has always been located in only one place — in Jerusalem (see Isaiah 9:6-7 and Psalm 122).

  • Acts 1:3-6 — Luke says that Jesus spent 40 days teaching His disciples about the kingdom of God. Then, as He was ready to ascend into Heaven, one of the disciples asked, “Lord is it at this time You are restoring the kingdom to Israel?” The question indicates that Jesus taught a time would come when the kingdom would be restored to Israel. Jesus’ response to the question indicated the same thing. He did not rebuke the question. Rather, He simply said it was not for them to know the times and seasons when the kingdom would be restored to Israel.

  • Revelation 2:26-27 — Jesus says that He has a special reward for any “overcomer” who keeps His deeds until the end: “To him I will give authority over the nations; and he shall rule them with a rod of iron.”

  • Revelation 3:21 — Jesus makes it clear that the overcomers will reign jointly with Him: “He who overcomes, I will grant to him to sit down with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.” Again, the throne of Jesus is the throne of David (Luke 1:32 and Revelation 3:7). The throne of David is in Jerusalem, not in Heaven (Psalm 122). Jesus currently shares His Father’s throne. He is not sitting on His own throne and will not do so until He returns to this earth. Then He will allow the redeemed to share His throne with Him.

From: http://christinprophecy.org/articles/the-biblical-evidence-that-jesus-is-returning-to-reign


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This comes from Pastor Reckart's website in the link.
JMF Statement Of Doctrine


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"Coming Of Our Lord
We affirm that there are two comings of our Ehyeh Jesus Messieh. The first was in Bethlehem. The second will be at the end of the tribulation at the last or seventh trump. Therefore, we believe in the Post-Tribulation coming of Messieh as he predicted and set forth in Matthew chapters 24 and Luke 21. Because of our Messianic view of the Scriptures and that they find their fulfillment in the Kingdom of God, the new Israel, we can not and do not accept the theories of dispensationalism or Talmudic Jewish Zionism that there remains a special way of salvation for antichrist Jews and Gentiles where they will not be required to accept Jesus as the Messieh and fulfill conversion according to Acts 2:38.
Accordingly, we reject any idea that after Calvary, the Jews and Gentiles remain two separate groups needing two different plans or Covenants of salvation. The Messianic Gospel is to all nations, the Jews first. Since Calvary, the message is GRACE not RACE. All must merge into the Messianic Kingdom of God, under the Throne of Messieh and his blood Covenant, or be lost.
Although the Messianic believer will suffer persecution by Jewish and Gentile antichrists, we are not appointed to the wrath of God. This does not mean a secret rapture to avoid this wrath. We believe as the elect of God we are the Messianic Judaism to be protected through it. If we are prepared and obedient we may avoid many persecutions and dangers. Tribulation is the Lord's wrath upon the antichrists for their persecution and attack against Messieh's Kingdom and his elect Saints to eradicate them from the earth. The wrath of God is against the antichrist. Several who think to create safe havens for antichrist tribulation Jews will learn that these places are needed for Messianic Jews for Jesus. This revelation will increase as we draw nearer the end of the present age.
We do not hold to the mystical and spiritualist theories of split-resurrections, split-raptures, and two last trumps, all designed to dodge facing antichrist, persecution, and being tested for our Faith and the name of Jesus Messieh. We do not believe the Kingdom will end in defeat. We do not believe God is shutting the door on the Church and opening the door wide for cut off branches.
We do not believe that after a secret rapture, that seven years of the Law dispensation, having been saved off the cross, will be reactivated for Jews who missed the rapture and who can now be saved by Law keeping and animal sacrifices. We do not believe Jews or Gentiles reject the final Messianic Ministry to all nations and the witness of God's sons and daughters and they can be saved by a new temple, a new priesthood, and the blood and ashes of a red heifer. There is only one coming of Messieh remaining, and it behooves all Jews and Gentiles to be converted according to Acts 2:38 before that event or be damned forever. The second coming of Messieh unto his Kingdom, ushers in the conclusion of the Kingdom of God which is the Millennial. The Kingdom of God rightly spans the time from his first coming to the end of the Millennial. Scripture correctly interpreted will support this Gospel of the Kingdom, first preached by Messieh. Those who obey not the Messianic Gospel of Jesus will be destroyed at the appearance of Messieh in the heavens (2Thes 1:8, 2:10).
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If you are going to share the teachings of Pastor Reckart, you should also show how he rejects most of what you are promoting on this forum.

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This comes from Pastor Reckart's website in the link.
JMF Statement Of Doctrine


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"Coming Of Our Lord
We affirm that there are two comings of our Ehyeh Jesus Messieh. The first was in Bethlehem. The second will be at the end of the tribulation at the last or seventh trump. Therefore, we believe in the Post-Tribulation coming of Messieh as he predicted and set forth in Matthew chapters 24 and Luke 21. Because of our Messianic view of the Scriptures and that they find their fulfillment in the Kingdom of God, the new Israel, we can not and do not accept the theories of dispensationalism or Talmudic Jewish Zionism that there remains a special way of salvation for antichrist Jews and Gentiles where they will not be required to accept Jesus as the Messieh and fulfill conversion according to Acts 2:38.
Accordingly, we reject any idea that after Calvary, the Jews and Gentiles remain two separate groups needing two different plans or Covenants of salvation. The Messianic Gospel is to all nations, the Jews first. Since Calvary, the message is GRACE not RACE. All must merge into the Messianic Kingdom of God, under the Throne of Messieh and his blood Covenant, or be lost.
Although the Messianic believer will suffer persecution by Jewish and Gentile antichrists, we are not appointed to the wrath of God. This does not mean a secret rapture to avoid this wrath. We believe as the elect of God we are the Messianic Judaism to be protected through it. If we are prepared and obedient we may avoid many persecutions and dangers. Tribulation is the Lord's wrath upon the antichrists for their persecution and attack against Messieh's Kingdom and his elect Saints to eradicate them from the earth. The wrath of God is against the antichrist. Several who think to create safe havens for antichrist tribulation Jews will learn that these places are needed for Messianic Jews for Jesus. This revelation will increase as we draw nearer the end of the present age.
We do not hold to the mystical and spiritualist theories of split-resurrections, split-raptures, and two last trumps, all designed to dodge facing antichrist, persecution, and being tested for our Faith and the name of Jesus Messieh. We do not believe the Kingdom will end in defeat. We do not believe God is shutting the door on the Church and opening the door wide for cut off branches.
We do not believe that after a secret rapture, that seven years of the Law dispensation, having been saved off the cross, will be reactivated for Jews who missed the rapture and who can now be saved by Law keeping and animal sacrifices. We do not believe Jews or Gentiles reject the final Messianic Ministry to all nations and the witness of God's sons and daughters and they can be saved by a new temple, a new priesthood, and the blood and ashes of a red heifer. There is only one coming of Messieh remaining, and it behooves all Jews and Gentiles to be converted according to Acts 2:38 before that event or be damned forever. The second coming of Messieh unto his Kingdom, ushers in the conclusion of the Kingdom of God which is the Millennial. The Kingdom of God rightly spans the time from his first coming to the end of the Millennial. Scripture correctly interpreted will support this Gospel of the Kingdom, first preached by Messieh. Those who obey not the Messianic Gospel of Jesus will be destroyed at the appearance of Messieh in the heavens (2Thes 1:8, 2:10).
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If you are going to share the teachings of Pastor Reckart, you should also show how he rejects most of what you are promoting on this forum.

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Listen carefully! I am promoting nothing! But rather, sharing the teachings from the Bible for those who do not know and understand the truth that comes directly from it. Who are seeking better knowledge of the Bible!

From what I have read f Pastor Reckart's material, I seriously doubt the views you have posted above are his.
In any event show me what Scriptures documented in the following two sources are false, or the views you hold to are:

1. The Millennial reign of Jesus on the earth:

My post #16.

2. The Biblical teaching of the pre-trib rapture of the Church:

The Biblical teaching of the pre-trib rapture of the Church in Theology/Prophecy & Revelation Forum Forum


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From what I have read f Pastor Reckart's material, I seriously doubt the views you have posted above are his.

I gave the link to what I posted, showing that it did come from Pastor G. Reckart.
The following is a link to his website.
Check it yourself and face the reality of the truth.


JMF Statement Of Doctrine

You are denying the truth about what Pastor G. Reckart has written, because he is opposed to modern Dispensational Theology and the pretrib rapture of the Church.

In the link above, Pastor Reckart says that most of what you are claiming is not from the Bible.

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