Crippling anger with God

little1 · Apr 19, 2017

_-iconoclast-_ said:
Hello

little1 makes a good point.

Im sorry to hear of your pain as well. Why are you angry at God? Would you mind explaining in more detail about your pain?

Thank you.

No problem
I will explain

It's not something I feel all the time. I have PTSD and general learning disabilities (I find life incredibly hard) and I often get hurt or triggered in life . I get suicidal thoughts because life is very painful and to die would be escape. The rage towards God comes when I think in those times of how he's the one that made me and he's the one who created me. It's messed up and wrong thinking but the anger towards God is because he has not taken me home. I prayed for him to heal me and I have not been healed (see my post in mental health general)(why hasn't God healed me)

It's misdirected and my brain knows not to be angry but my heart is not as convinced

Hope that helped explain

_-iconoclast-_ · Apr 19, 2017

little1 said:
No problem
I will explain

It's not something I feel all the time. I have PTSD and general learning disabilities (I find life incredibly hard) and I often get hurt or triggered in life . I get suicidal thoughts because life is very painful and to die would be escape. The rage towards God comes when I think in those times of how he's the one that made me and he's the one who created me. It's messed up and wrong thinking but the anger towards God is because he has not taken me home. I prayed for him to heal me and I have not been healed (see my post in mental health general)(why hasn't God healed me)

It's misdirected and my brain knows not to be angry but my heart is not as convinced

Hope that helped explain

Thank you for opening yourself up.

it sounds to me that your faith endures. How r things today?

little1 · Apr 19, 2017

_-iconoclast-_ said:
Thank you for opening yourself up. it sounds to me that your faith endures. How r things today?

I was a bit teary but reading some of these posts encourages me. I feel less alone.
And even "struggling with life" in his pain and that. He's like a brother out there somewhere going through heart ach also. It shows me I'm not totally weard if others struggle too.
And then folks such as yourself with words of encouragement and wizdone. It's nice and it's easy to come online then that helps me look to the bible too.

So I'm doing well now .
Hope you are well too

_-iconoclast-_ · Apr 19, 2017

little1 said:
I was a bit teary but reading some of these posts encourages me. I feel less alone.
And even "struggling with life" in his pain and that. He's like a brother out there somewhere going through heart ach also. It shows me I'm not totally weard if others struggle too.
And then folks such as yourself with words of encouragement and wizdone. It's nice and it's easy to come online then that helps me look to the bible too.

So I'm doing well now .
Hope you are well too

Good day today.

Keep up the faith my friend. Sounds like your the one to talk to about such matters. Hopefully your strength can encourage others.

Hidden In Him · Apr 19, 2017

little1 said:
Sex is not bad. It is amazing and God made it. Heaven we cannot understand but God made sex and it is good, right? So trust Him that He made Heaven good too.. He's the same God. You know artists paintings? Often you can tell the painting is by the same artist because they look alike. So if God is the artist of sex, then He will make great intimacy in Heaven.

My goodness, what a post! If there's a "Winner of the Month" award, this one is it! :bow:

Hidden In Him · Apr 19, 2017

little1 said:
The anger towards God is because He has not taken me home. I prayed for Him to heal me and I have not been healed... why hasn't God healed me?

It's misdirected and my brain knows not to be angry but my heart is not as convinced.

Let me explain this to you, Little1, and it will be an honor. I'm sensing when you say your brain knows not to be angry, you're being obedient to Him solely on the basis that it is a command. Let me encourage you here. In order to fully convince your heart, and never doubt His love for you ever again, learn this: Those who endure sufferings while yet remaining faithful to God are the closest of all to His heart. Even now I hear Him telling me, "Keep going, keep going," as if He's been wanting to tell you this for a very long time. You have no idea how precious you are to Him, and He is going to reward your faithfulness to Him in this far, far beyond your wildest dreams. As you yourself stated, we are called to intimacy with Him, both now and in eternity. Your sufferings have brought you into deeper intimacy with Him. That post was the most beautiful thing I believe I have ever seen before.

Ask Him in prayer if these things I have said to you are not so. Ask Him. And I will leave you with this short passage (2 Corinthians 4:17-18). Also understand that God is going to judge each one of us, not in comparison with others and the burdens they had to bear, which might have been much lighter by comparison. He is going to judge us in accordance with the burden we had to bear in this life (Galatians 6:4-5). It sounds as if you are bearing an incredible burden, and yet remaining faithful to Him in the midst of it when the vast, vast majority of humans in this world would have abandoned Him long ago.

I can't tell you how impressed I am with you. And trust me, you have great reward coming.

Oh, and by the way, the Lord just told me "Nice job" on this post I just wrote to you.

God bless you, sister, and take every single word of this to heart. It was meant for you.
HiH

dhh712 · Apr 19, 2017

StrugglingWithLife said:
And why are Christians permitted to have such human intimacy here if it's so bad for you too? Why is God's plan so messed up?

It's not bad. Intimacy in marriage is glorifying to God, nothing wrong with it in the slightest (though by our corrupted human natures, anything we do is tainted with sin; it won't be pure. It may be a godly act, yet because we ourselves still have sin remaining in us while we are still on this earth, it is not entirely free of sin). Things will just be different in heaven. There will be lots of things that aren't inherently sinful in themselves here that just won't be there in heaven, or we won't have an interest in them since we ourselves are changed.

FanthatSpark · Apr 19, 2017

Your wilderness,

Emotion.

Suffering is the promise of this plain as it is written. Why? We know the void/sin/darkness just like God does, thus the separation and curse to all humanity for we know not light as God does Genesis 1:3-4. We are as Gods as it is written. The mission, find joy that is peace through your brand of suffering.

If I saw you in your joy and I have none I will naturally be drawn to you. At first this is a self serving interest (you seek a way to regain joy, right?) as it is in most and questions of getting to know you will manifest. My admiration would intensify as I learn of your constant pain yet "still" you are infectious in your joy and you seek nothing from me for your substance comes from God.

Here's a suggestion... Find a joyous church to learn of their joy. Why? I bet you find an individual in a situation more dire than yours yet they still smile that smile that reaches the eyes and deeds and you will be inspired. Then, when I meet you in your joy , I become inspired and ask you how you are always happy in your pain and your answer is God... Amen.

A break down of Romans 12:2 (however read verse 1 too). Be not conformed to this world (In your case , your suffering supersedes all and this is a trial under Gods promise of suffering )but be transformed by the renewing of your mind (Where is your joy? Look at your posts... Do you see it? I Me Mine , anger , disappointment when it is written we will suffer= Trial. It may be God has visited you with your suffering to show another a transformed mind of joy through your pain so they, or you , become a great teacher? Why? For you transformed your mind in the face of your suffering that =) ...that you may prove what is, that good, and acceptable , perfect will of God.

Are you here right now , Galatians 5:22 even through the promise of suffering? Why not? Look at the beginning of this post. A man can not learn in anger right?

Thank you for the platform to teach myself brother ... For in your suffering how do I deal with my own. Amen.

vinsight4u · Apr 19, 2017

brinny · Apr 19, 2017

Praying for you (((hug)))

vinsight4u · Apr 19, 2017

StrugglingWithLife · Apr 21, 2017

Hidden In Him said:
If I were you, I wouldn't be so quick to risk my eternity by assuming things. Yes, it is true that when a Christian dies now his spirit ascends to be with the Father in Heaven, and in that state he or she neither marries nor gives in marriage but is like the angels of God. But if that were all God intended then He would just leave it at that. But He has promised He is NOT going to be leaving it like that. We are going to receive resurrected BODIES, just like the ones we have now only in perfect shape and youth, and they will never grow old. Some can assert they know for a fact that there are certain parts of our anatomy that will be missing, but I'm not really buying that. I think we are destined to enjoy the things God created us for far MORE in eternity than less, only in a godly and proper manner. Otherwise, there might be some longing for their earthly lives just like you are apparently doing already in assuming at will all be over.

Be careful. Hell is not "total blackness." It is eternal suffering and torment with worms and flames and torture at the hands of demons. And when Death and Hell are cast into the Lake of Fire, it will simply be burning together with all those who likewise rejected God unjustly.

Nonsense. There is still a lot of time yet before the Antichrist finally rises to power. Anyone who tells you otherwise is fantasizing, ignorant or trying to sell you something.

Struggling, He can deliver you from your illness, only you will have to begin putting Him first again and trusting Him, even if things look bleak and your healing is a long time coming. Replace your sorrows with hope again. For all you know, the girl of your dreams could be right around the corner, and yet you'll miss her by being too busy fearing about a future that isn't even real.

In love,
HiH

What's your church/denomination? And what is the point of your advice?

Hidden In Him · Apr 21, 2017

StrugglingWithLife said:
What's your church/denomination? And what is the point of your advice?

Non-denominational, and the vast majority of what I teach has moved beyond the norm at this point. I mentioned several things there, so you'd kinda need to be specific before I could tell you what my intentions and objectives were in saying it.

StrugglingWithLife · Apr 21, 2017

Hidden In Him said:
Non-denominational, and the vast majority of what I teach has moved beyond the norm at this point. I mentioned several things there, so you'd kinda need to be specific before I could tell you what my intentions and objectives were in saying it.

I was raised Catholic, but I don't think non-denominational Christians are wrong.

Do you believe personally, say, that in the new Earth and Heaven, that we will all be wearing white for eternity? A white robe that cannot be removed?

I have another one too... if we are supposed to be young and beautiful in Heaven, why is there any point in saying "lustful thoughts aren't abled" sorry if I'm not making as much sense but I am trying to get help.

Do you Hidden, believe that God will keep all the good parts of the former earth in this newly-created universe? And the good stuff from Earth will be glorified and even better? What about our rewards for our past burdens? Do we get physical rewards or are they purely energy/spiritual?

Hidden In Him · Apr 21, 2017

StrugglingWithLife said:
Do you believe personally, say, that in the new Earth and Heaven, that we will all be wearing white for eternity? A white robe that cannot be removed?

White garments most certainly. That cannot be removed? No. We'll be able to change our clothing there just like here, according to our moods and various desires for expression.

StrugglingWithLife said:
I have another one too... if we are supposed to be young and beautiful in Heaven, why is there any point in saying "lustful thoughts aren't abled"

Uh oh... looks like spell check messed with your word here. Redefine "abled."

StrugglingWithLife said:
Do you Hidden, believe that God will keep all the good parts of the former earth in this newly-created universe? And the good stuff from Earth will be glorified and even better?

I believe the things on earth were patterned after the things in Heaven (trees, grass, mountains, rivers, lakes etc.), so I believe He will "keep" the good things of the earth, most definitely, in their originally designed perfect state, as in the garden.

StrugglingWithLife said:
What about our rewards for our past burdens? Do we get physical rewards or are they purely energy/spiritual?

This is a good question, and my answer is that in Heaven all the "spiritual" things including their bodies are just as "real" and tangible there as ours are here, and this will certainly extend to the New Heavens and the New Earth.

As for our rewards, they will all be vastly different, IMHO, according to our individual callings, and how faithful we were in obediently fulfilling them, and how many we were used by the Spirit of the Living God to help. This, to me anyway, will be the greatest reward of Heaven. Meeting so many people in eternity that you helped in this life in some way, and sharing stories of the lives and battles we faced in this life, and how we made it through. And loving one another, knowing that we'll now have all eternity to become ever better friends, knowing there's no rush in eternity.

StrugglingWithLife · Apr 21, 2017

Hidden In Him said:
White garments most certainly. That cannot be removed? No. We'll be able to change our clothing there just like here, according to our moods and various desires for expression.

Uh oh... looks like spell check messed with your word here. Redefine "abled."

I believe the things on earth were patterned after the things in Heaven (trees, grass, mountains, rivers, lakes etc.), so I believe He will "keep" the good things of the earth, most definitely, in their originally designed perfect state, as in the garden.

This is a good question, and my answer is that in Heaven all the "spiritual" things including their bodies are just as "real" and tangible there as ours are here, and this will certainly extend to the New Heavens and the New Earth.

As for our rewards, they will all be vastly different, IMHO, according to our individual callings, and how faithful we were in obediently fulfilling them, and how many we were used by the Spirit of the Living God to help. This, to me anyway, will be the greatest reward of Heaven. Meeting so many people in eternity that you helped in this life in some way, and sharing stories of the lives and battles we faced in this life, and how we made it through. And loving one another, knowing that we'll now have all eternity to become ever better friends, knowing there's no rush in eternity.

That sounds great. Sadly, I still feel a little upset that I won't get to have a romantic intimate partner up there, or do i? Maybe if it exists up there, it can be same yet better than on Earth. Was that what you meant?

Hidden In Him · Apr 21, 2017

StrugglingWithLife said:
That sounds great. Sadly, I still feel a little upset that I won't get to have a romantic intimate partner up there, or do I? Maybe if it exists up there, it can be same yet better than on Earth. Was that what you meant?

Up there, no. But you have to remember that the saints are not going to be "up there" forever. There is going to be a New Heaven and a New earth, in which righteousness dwells, and a resurrection of our earthly bodies unto newness of life, which is especially the part that I feel suggests you may indeed have your chance in the next life, if not in this one. Again, to me it doesn't really make sense that God would choose to resurrect our fleshly bodies if we would still be ending up with the same sexless anatomies as our spirits do in Heaven.

Just my opinion, mind you. But as Paul once said concerning an issue he was not absolutely certain about but had his suspicions, I am telling you these things "after my judgment. And I think also that I have, i.e. am expressing the Spirit of God on the matter." (1 Corinthians 7:40).

StrugglingWithLife · Apr 21, 2017

Hidden In Him said:
Up there, no. But you have to remember that the saints are not going to be "up there" forever. There is going to be a New Heaven and a New earth, in which righteousness dwells, and a resurrection of our earthly bodies unto newness of life, which is especially the part that I feel suggests you may indeed have your chance in the next life, if not in this one. Again, to me it doesn't really make sense that God would choose to resurrect our fleshly bodies if we would still be ending up with the same sexless anatomies as our spirits do in Heaven.

Just my opinion, mind you. But as Paul once said concerning an issue he was not absolutely certain about but had his suspicions, I am telling you these things "after my judgment. And I think also that I have, i.e. am expressing the Spirit of God on the matter." (1 Corinthians 7:40).

So what you are saying in your personal opinion is that, I can still have a chance to find a partner in heaven, right? Is that what you meant?

Hidden In Him · Apr 21, 2017

StrugglingWithLife said:
So what you are saying in your personal opinion is that, I can still have a chance to find a partner in heaven, right? Is that what you meant?

In the New Earth, after the resurrection of the dead takes place.

StrugglingWithLife · Apr 21, 2017

Hidden In Him said:
In the New Earth, after the resurrection of the dead takes place.

Is there any way I can PM you?

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