Is it a sin?

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JackRT

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Several posts have mentioned blasphemy. This became an important issue in the events leading up to the crucifixion of Jesus.

Several days previously Jesus had interrupted the very profitable money-changing operations in the Temple. In addition his preaching was stirring up the people against the religious authorities. There is no doubt The High Priesthood and the Sadducees (not the Pharisees --- that is a whole other story) wanted rid of him. With the co-operation of the Roman military Jesus was seized and taken to the house of the High Priest. This was not a trial because it was at night and it was not in the Chamber of Hewn Stone on Temple Mount. At best it would be a "preliminary hearing".

Messiah means literally "anointed one" and was the common way in which the Jews referred to kings of the dynasty of David. "Anointed" refers of course to the method of coronation of the Jewish kings. It translated into the Greek as "Christos". The Jews regarded themselves as a "theocracy"... a kingdom ruled by God. The Jews also envisaged a (metaphorical) throne room in which there were three thrones. God occupied the central throne. At "the right hand of God" was the throne of the "king messiah" who was the reigning king of the house and family of David. At "the left hand of God" was the throne of the "priest messiah" who was the high priest of the house and family of Zadok. Ideally there were always two messiahs who were known collectively as the "sons of God". All these terms, "messiah", "kingdom of God", "at the right hand of God" and "son of God" were political rather than religious statements. It was a later generation of gentile Christians who re-interpreted these phrases in a very different religious sense. Both before and after the death of Jesus the early Christians, who were, after all, practicing Jews, understood these terms in their traditional sense. Jesus in claiming to be the messiah had not committed any blasphemy. That is why Jesus was sent over to Pilate because claiming to be a king was high treason against the Roman government.

If the High Priest had a legitimate charge of blasphemy, Jesus would have been tried before the Sanhedrin
and if found guilty would have been executed by stoning. The Sanhedrin did not lose that right till AD 39. I honestly do not think that the Sanhedrin would have found him guilty.
 
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Swearing is meant to shock and verbally assault. It does not love your neighbor as yourself. Some people are exposed to such a steady dose of abuse that it seems normal to them. But it is still abuse. The only time we can argue that it is justified is when a horrifying situation calls for such language. We drop a hammer on our foot and without thinking a bad word comes out. It shocks those who hear it appropriately because we may need help. Or lets say we catch someone sleeping with our wife. Bad language is okay, because a verbal assault is appropriate.
 
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All words have more than one meaning. In the sense of "speaking blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" we are talking about speaking evil against the Holy Spirit. Whatever the Quran says it says... I have no interest in reading it. :)

Evil as in accusation of sin?
 
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Speaking evil as in accusing the Spirit of sin?
No, just speaking evil against the Spirit. If God healed you of disease, and you told the world, "God didn't heal me, I healed myself" you have spoken against God because you have taken something away from Him that He deserves to have credited to Him.
 
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Sammy-San

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All words have more than one meaning. In the sense of "speaking blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" we are talking about speaking evil against the Holy Spirit. Whatever the Quran says it says... I have no interest in reading it. :)

Evil means accusing of sin.

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All words have more than one meaning. In the sense of "speaking blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" we are talking about speaking evil against the Holy Spirit. Whatever the Quran says it says... I have no interest in reading it. :)

Would you say blasphemy means highly improper?
 
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Would you say blasphemy means highly improper?
Brother... blasphemy means to detract from His greatness, His authority, His character. If we speak a blasphemy we are speaking an evil... speaking something that takes away from Him, makes Him look less than He is.
 
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Brother... blasphemy means to detract from His greatness, His authority, His character. If we speak a blasphemy we are speaking an evil... speaking something that takes away from Him, makes Him look less than He is.

With the comment on Islam's heretical view of the Bible, that was blasphemy because they were improperly speaking of God. Am I right?
 
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With the comment on Islam's heretical view of the Bible, that was blasphemy because they were improperly speaking of God. Am I right?
Yes, but to bring it to the unpardonable point Sam... I think an intent to stand against God must be there too. I don't think God will condemn somebody eternally for doing something that is unintentional or unknown. I don't know enough about Islam to make a statement on that. Will leave it for others. :) Good night and blessings.
 
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Yes, but to bring it to the unpardonable point Sam... I think an intent to stand against God must be there too. I don't think God will condemn somebody eternally for doing something that is unintentional or unknown. I don't know enough about Islam to make a statement on that. Will leave it for others. :) Good night and blessings.

If a person gets angry and says Jesus's name with a curse word, they aren't standing against God, but are you saying it isn't blasphemy?

Jesus Christ's Middle Name is Not FU_KING!!

It makes me angry when I hear people curse in my Lord's name. SHUT UP!!! Jesus does NOT have a middle name. And if Jesus did, it certainly would not be a slang street curse word for sexual intercourse. There is no evil on this earth that is any more abominable to God the Father in Heaven than to desecrate His dear Son by referring to Him in such a derogatory, filthy and sexually-degenerate manner.
 
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I think using the name Jesus Christ as a swear is sinful, as is G.D....but as far as the other words go, they're just words.

Having said that, I do think we have to be respectful of those around us...and we also have to ask what it says about our witness? If we're using a word in a derogatory fashion against another individual, that's sinful for sure...just as you said in the video, calling someone an idiot or fool...calling them a foul word is no bueno. If I have a bad day, or hit my thumb with a hammer and a few cuss words fly out...well...it's frustration, anger, and pain caused by a situation...we're called to love people, but not situations...we can't sin against a situation.

I have a horrible potty mouth, quite honestly...that's probably one of my biggest faults. It comes from being raised by a military father, and years of working in retail...I imagine the backroom of a grocery store has more foul words being spoken than a battleship does, lol. Because I know this is an issue for me, I'm trying to work on it...because, while not a sin, exactly...it's not edifying either.
 
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Most of us wouldn't say that an occasional "darn" that isn't directed at anyone but is just a mild expletive isn't much of an issue.

Prior to reading Jonathan Edwards on the subject (if I understand your point), I would have agreed with you.

Jonathan Edwards made a resolution (#15) never to get angry at "irrational beings", but some, including myself, would include inanimate objects in that. He argued that ultimately this anger is directed at God who is in control of inanimate objects, and they don't have any will in which to plot against you.

I'm straining out gnats here, but if taken in the right spirit (not legalistically), I think that Edwards has a great point. Having said that, it doesn't always keep me from yelling at my tools or truck. :)
 
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Sin is anything falling short of the glory of a Holy God!

Exodus 20:7...OOO... a COMMANDMENT!
“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not leave him unpunished who takes His name in vain.

Psalm 34:13
Keep your tongue from evil And your lips from speaking deceit.

James 3:8
But no one can tame the tongue; it is a restless evil and full of deadly poison.

1 Peter 3:10
For, “The one who desires life, to love and see good days, Must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit.
 
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