Using the words of Christ is witchcraft? Seriously? The words of institution are taken straight from the Gospels, are they not?Is this another wild lead of inference? Galatians 4: Satan's Masterpiece: The Catholic Mass is Witchcraft
There are numerous bits of weird reasoning, but let's just take one example. TFA claims the Mass is "Wiccan" or "Hoodoo" because it copies certain (unidentified) pagan rituals. But there is very good evidence that the Mass (or Divine Liturgy) has been celebrated in a form very similar to that done currently for centuries (Yeah, yeah, I hear you folks in the background muttering about the Tridentine Mass and the Novus Ordo . . . .) But we also have very good evidence that what is called "Wiccan" was pretty much made up in the 19th Century as a copy of the Mass.In what sense? Former catholics believe it is unbibical.
Using the words of Christ is witchcraft? Seriously? The words of institution are taken straight from the Gospels, are they not?
There are numerous bits of weird reasoning, but let's just take one example. TFA claims the Mass is "Wiccan" or "Hoodoo" because it copies certain (unidentified) pagan rituals. But there is very good evidence that the Mass (or Divine Liturgy) has been celebrated in a form very similar to that done currently for centuries (Yeah, yeah, I hear you folks in the background muttering about the Tridentine Mass and the Novus Ordo . . . .) But we also have very good evidence that what is called "Wiccan" was pretty much made up in the 19th Century as a copy of the Mass.
The author gets the influence precisely backwards.
I didn't know that!Isn't he deceased?
Using the words of Christ is witchcraft? Seriously? The words of institution are taken straight from the Gospels, are they not?
Pretty much!Are you saying this to say Catholicism is bibical?
Pretty much!
Let's see if we can start with a point of agreement and move from there rather than starting at the end-point of a big ol' formal Mass.
Are you willing to agree that some of the earliest Christians we have records of--the congregation at Corinth--had some sort of ritual that involved gathering together for bread and wine? Consult 1 Cor. 11. I'm not asking you to agree that it was a Mass or Divine Liturgy here. Just that these very early Christians did something together with ritual words and shared bread and wine.
Would you say if Catholicism wasn't bibical that article would still be wrong?
[/QUOTE]Because the few genuine cases of stigmata I am aware of have been given to very holy, Spirit filled Christians who love Jesus with all their heart, soul, mind, and strength.
Yes, I will agree that there are people that self inflict such wounds, to gain attention or notoriety.
But I really doubt if anything is demonic, because it was the Wounds of Christ that defeated satan, and satan really has a hard time duplicating Christ's work here on earth.
I've heard of it.What is your view on this article?....
I've heard of it.
It is very demonic.
I won't even try to read about it any more,
and advise everyone to be aware of
the devil's tricks and avoid it.
I'm not allowed to say on this forum.So you don't think Padre Pio was saved?
Are you allowed to say a person was saved?
I've heard of it.
It is very demonic.
I won't even try to read about it any more,
and advise everyone to be aware of
the devil's tricks and avoid it.
To what extent is being aware of the devil's tricks proper?