Is "Pizzagate" "fake news" or a real indiction of high level pedophilia?

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No. I think they literally worship/serve Satan. Even those who follow the LaVeyan blend of Satanism which contends that Satan (and God, for that matter) doesn't exist. I wrote a bit about that here if you're interested in learning more.

Why did you say worship/serve?

and/or follow the teaching that he represents
 
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Do you believe her story?
I believes that there are a satanic cult among the Elites. I believes that she compared these satanic cultist of being with the Illuminati. They doesn't has a name for their group, but they just practice all sort of dark rituals. George Bush had once belong to a group that was called skulls and bones. Maybe that is the name of the group. I have being seeing a lot of tattoos of the eye of Horace on people. I asked them what does that means? Some says that is a part of their Egyptian's religious symbols. They believes in all of the pagan's gods like ISIS and the rest. They believes that this religion is the true religion. They always wearing pyramids shapes on them. But people believes that they belong to the illuminati. But what the Elites are involved in are not the ancient Egyptian's religion. But they are in a satanic cult. Like this former NSA agent, Gen. Michael Aquino. He belongs to the temple of Seth, and which they will not call it The Temple of Satan because they feel that might detour away people from joining this religion. Michael Aquino was acting like the High priest at the Bohemian grove event. And so they are members of the Temple of Seth, the temple of Satan. They are satanic worshipers.


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History of the Illuminati

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Matthew 13:25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away.

Matthew 13:39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.
 
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I believes that there are a satanic cult among the Elites. I believes that she compared these satanic cultist of being with the Illuminati. They doesn't has a name for their group, but they just practice all sort of dark rituals. George Bush had once belong to a group that was called skulls and bones. Maybe that is the name of the group. I have being seeing a lot of tattoos of the eye of Horace on people. I asked them what does that means? Some says that is a part of their Egyptian's religious symbols. They believes in all of the pagan's gods like ISIS and the rest. They believes that this religion is the true religion. They always wearing pyramids shapes on them. But people believes that they belong to the illuminati. But what the Elites are involved in are not the ancient Egyptian's religion. But they are in a satanic cult. Like this former NSA agent, Gen. Michael Aquino. He belongs to the temple of Seth, and which they will not call it The Temple of Satan because they feel that might detour away people from joining this religion. Michael Aquino was acting like the High priest at the Bohemian grove event. And so they are members of the Temple of Seth, the temple of Satan. They are satanic worshipers.


Ancient Egyptian religion - Wikipedia

History of the Illuminati

When and where did the Illuminati originate?


Matthew 13:25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away.

Matthew 13:39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.

Do you think if the Bible didn't talk about the enemy, there would still be evil people worshiping him? This question is not to blame God for mentioning the devil in the Bible any more than blaming God for putting the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden.

What do you think the goal of this is-to copy God?
 
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Do you think if the Bible didn't talk about the enemy, there would still be evil people worshiping him? This question is not to blame God for mentioning the devil in the Bible any more than blaming God for putting the forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden.

What do you think the goal of this is-to copy God?
God had created the devil to test our hearts. To see what we truly desire. We all has been given our own free will which means to freely choose to desire from the heart without anyone controlling it. That is why everyone has different likes and dislikes. No one has the same likes and dislikes, we are all different. Different strokes for different folks. God just want to show us what is in our hearts since we has sin in us. To see if we will let sin take over us or fight from being taken over by it.. That is why He had left newly-born children in the garden alone with a mind manipulating stranger. The story of Job explains why He created the devil.

Philippians 1:22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know!


Isaiah 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is no other;
apart from me there is no God.
I will strengthen you,
though you have not acknowledged me,
6 so that from the rising of the sun
to the place of its setting
people may know there is none besides me.
I am the Lord, and there is no other.
7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the Lord, do all these things.

Zechariah 13:9 This third I will put into the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on my name and I will answer them; I will say, ‘They are my people,’ and they will say, ‘The Lord is our God.’”

Exodus 4:21 The Lord said to Moses, “When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go.

John 10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

1 Peter 5:8 Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

Job 1:7 The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”


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God had created the devil to test our hearts. To see what we truly desire. We all has been given our own free will which means to freely choose to desire from the heart without anyone controlling it. That is why everyone has different likes and dislikes. No one has the same likes and dislikes, we are all different. Different strokes for different folks. God just want to show us what is in our hearts since we has sin in us. To see if we will let sin take over us or fight from being taken over by it.. That is why He had left newly-born children in the garden alone with a mind manipulating stranger. The story of Job explains why He created the devil.

Philippians 1:22 If I am to go on living in the body, this will mean fruitful labor for me. Yet what shall I choose? I do not know!


Isaiah 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is no other;
apart from me there is no God.
I will strengthen you,
though you have not acknowledged me,
6 so that from the rising of the sun
to the place of its setting
people may know there is none besides me.
I am the Lord, and there is no other.
7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the Lord, do all these things.

Zechariah 13:9 This third I will put into the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on my name and I will answer them; I will say, ‘They are my people,’ and they will say, ‘The Lord is our God.’”

Exodus 4:21 The Lord said to Moses, “When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go.

John 10:10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

1 Peter 5:8 Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.

Job 1:7 The Lord said to Satan, “Where have you come from?” Satan answered the Lord, “From roaming throughout the earth, going back and forth on it.”


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Why do you think he was cast to the earth instead of hell during Genesis?
 
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I believes that there are a satanic cult among the Elites. I believes that she compared these satanic cultist of being with the Illuminati. They doesn't has a name for their group, but they just practice all sort of dark rituals. George Bush had once belong to a group that was called skulls and bones. Maybe that is the name of the group. I have being seeing a lot of tattoos of the eye of Horace on people. I asked them what does that means? Some says that is a part of their Egyptian's religious symbols. They believes in all of the pagan's gods like ISIS and the rest. They believes that this religion is the true religion. They always wearing pyramids shapes on them. But people believes that they belong to the illuminati. But what the Elites are involved in are not the ancient Egyptian's religion. But they are in a satanic cult. Like this former NSA agent, Gen. Michael Aquino. He belongs to the temple of Seth, and which they will not call it The Temple of Satan because they feel that might detour away people from joining this religion. Michael Aquino was acting like the High priest at the Bohemian grove event. And so they are members of the Temple of Seth, the temple of Satan. They are satanic worshipers.


Ancient Egyptian religion - Wikipedia

History of the Illuminati

When and where did the Illuminati originate?


Matthew 13:25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away.

Matthew 13:39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.

Why aren't Christians called God worshipers?
 
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Why aren't Christians called God worshipers?
The people asked for a King that they can see and touch. But God did not want to sink to their level. He wanted them to come up to Him, the spiritual nature, instead of Him going down to their level, the physical nature. But He has came in the flesh to bring them up to His level. To make them to become spiritual beings. Jesus is the physical image of God.

1 Samuel 8:5 They said to him, “You are old, and your sons do not follow your ways; now appoint a king to lead us, such as all the other nations have.”

Matthew 1:23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).

Romans 8:5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.

Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

John 14:9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Genesis 8:1 But God remembered Noah and all the wild animals and the livestock that were with him in the ark, and he sent a wind over the earth, and the waters receded.

Matthew 8:27 The men were amazed and asked, “What kind of man is this? Even the winds and the waves obey him!”
 
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The people asked for a King that they can see and touch. But God did not want to sink to their level. He wanted them to come up to Him, the spiritual nature, instead of Him going down to their level, the physical nature. But He has came in the flesh to bring them up to His level. To make them to become spiritual beings. Jesus is the physical image of God.

1 Samuel 8:5 They said to him, “You are old, and your sons do not follow your ways; now appoint a king to lead us, such as all the other nations have.”

Matthew 1:23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).

Romans 8:5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.

Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.

John 14:9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Genesis 8:1 But God remembered Noah and all the wild animals and the livestock that were with him in the ark, and he sent a wind over the earth, and the waters receded.

Matthew 8:27 The men were amazed and asked, “What kind of man is this? Even the winds and the waves obey him!”

Is that related to my question?
 
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Ted Gunderson thought they are real.
I'm sure some are meant to dis and mis inform.

Do you think what they do is meant to steal, kill, and destroy, like Jesus said of the enemy?

WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT OCCULT, WITCHCRAFT, SEANCES, NEW AGE, ASTROLOGY, REINCARNATION, PSYCHIC POWER, CALLING SPIRITS, FORTUNE TELLING, OUIJA BOARD, CRYSTAL BALL, TAROT CARD, PALMISTRY, IDOL, DEMON

Evil spirits manifest in blasphemy, profanity and filthy conversation. Persistent and violent opposition to God manifests in the lives of the demonically tormented individuals.

Once initiated into this dark world, fear of loss of life is often instilled in its members and they are sworn into secrecy. Individuals are often fearful of leaving it even if they want to, in case their death is arranged. It is a closely watched and monitored secret society.

However, there are many that have been saved through the precious blood of Jesus Christ and are totally freed from the bondage of evil.

The black mass prevents and desecrates the true worship of God and is a blasphemous affront to all believers in Christ. The black mass is today's perfect image of the occultism so clearly condemned by the LORD in the Old and New Testaments. It is not possible to serve Satan and Jesus Christ. Christians should have nothing to do with the black mass or any satanic or witchcraft practices.

Satan worshippers are perversions of the true Gospel. As perversions, they bring eternal death rather than the eternal life promised by Jesus Christ. A day will come when even Satan, his demons and those who are bound in the occult will no longer celebrate the black mass, but will be forced to bow to the Lord Jesus Christ.



 
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its unfortunate that the mods closed down a thread that was mocking the evidence and defintions of pizzagate, specially since their claims was based on a heap of ignorance and i wasnt given the chance to given them the truth. Pizzagate is not about a pizzashop owned by alefantis taht supposedly runa pedo ring out of htis basement. That narrative is 100% made up my podesta adn alefantis themselves, and denying this claim is their only public rebuttals of pizzagate. ( they both said in diffferent intervews, "we dont even have a basment"/"that place dont even have a basement")

That is a strawman argument. no one ever claimed this.

The only laim of a real basement in that pizzashop comes form a earlier interview with alefantis where he claims they store their homemade pizzasauce in their basement. But that was his own words.


The last poster in said thread said "why do they call it pizzagate then, if its not about that pizza place"

You think youre super smart, but youre very ignorant. Its a refernce to a set of codewords and logos used by organiazed pedophila for decades. Some of these words were found to be used a lot of john podestas emails. THATS where "pizzagate" comes frmo. Then they made the distraction, that its about a basement. never been true. The logos that was released as declassified documents by the fbi at the same time these wikileaks came out, points out that the same logos and meny references to pedophila (seriously distasteful once) was found in the business of said pizzaplace. So that sparked a movement of researcher to look into that. THeres a lot of weird things about that place. BUT ITS STILL not about that!

AS thje mocking continues, pizzagate is about pedorings, very evil once, with high level authorities and politicians protecting it. Its about THAT, whether that pizzaplace has a basmement or not.

are we clear?

this is TRUE, with evdidence, a HUGE problem, and should not be confined to a "conspiracy theory" forum

The mockign is that there is no evidence.

THere is no evidence of a basement in a pizzashop !But its never been about that!

THIS is what pizzagate is about:

"
Trafficking in persons and corruption are closely linked criminal activities, whose interrelation is frequently referred to in international fora. Yet, the correlation between the two phenomena, and the actual impact of corruption on trafficking in persons, are generally neglected in the development and implementation of anti-human trafficking policies and measures. This lack of attention may substantially undermine initiatives to combat trafficking in persons and prevent the customization of responses as needed. Only after recognizing the existence and the effects of corruption in the context of human trafficking, can the challenges posed by it be met. (page 6)

Most common among the corrupt practices used in trafficking persons, according to the report, are bribery and the abuse of power by border and visa officials. This chain extends farther, however, in some cases widening to include actors such as law enforcement and security officials, as well as parliamentarians and embassy staff.
"
This is quoted from a UNODC report dating back to 2011:
http://www.unodc.org/documents/huma...e_of_Corruption_in_Trafficking_in_Persons.pdf


This is not true?

i am shocked and disgusted by the mods and the christians in this forum that is suposed to be love and protective of the innocents lives, but has this evil attitude against those who JUST WANTS to expose and get rid of the most evil thats goin on in the planet right now, which is sadistic abuse of children.

What is wrong with you?
 
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