Are all Christians Christian?

Its not how others are living .. God will look at just you and ask are YOU living His word for Christ. What others do .. we are not here to control them. And if we see error and those that fall.. we duh are here to pick them up.. let them rest on us.. we take that burden and carry them. We love them like Christ loves us.

Jesus is coming.. are YOU living as if He is coming now?

yeshuaslavejeff said:

What quotation ? I just searched all 4 pages of this thread for it..... these below are close in meaning , or even the same, but not "quotations"

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Hello Jeff.

Post #22.

Questionable, but no man should judge another person as to where there at on their path, their walk with God....

We must be very careful with them if they are little ones in him, or else...

God Bless!


He did say there would be some wolves in sheep's clothing also, but most of those have position in body of believers... Most otherwise, their a child of God, yet, a child...

God Bless!

Philip_B said:

Luke 6:37
Judging Others
‘Do not judge, and you will not be judged; do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven;​

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One if the biggest misused verses in the scriptures. Does not Paul tell us to go to the person that is sinning and try and restore him? Paul also tells us to remove certain certain people from the church. Jesus tells us that by their fruit we will know them. All of that requires us to "judge" others. Jesus tells us to remove the beam from our own eye first before helping someone remove the sliver from ours. He is telling us to look at our selves before we look at others. Once we see ourselves correctly and deal with ourselves then we can move on to help others with the things in their lives that aren't right.

Paul also says the man judge's the outward while God judge's the heart. We can see what people do and recognize sinful behavior. That's fine. But we have no right to judge people's motives and intentions. That realm belongs to God. We have to be really careful about that. So often we want to judge people's hearts. We have no right to do that.

In answer to the OP not everyone who claims to be Christian is. I believe some already quoted Jesus who said not everyone who says Lord will enter the kingdom. There is also the passage where Jesus says that at the end God separates the wheat from the weeds. There are people who are part of the church, but do not actually belong to the church if that makes sense.

rjs330 said:

In answer to the OP not everyone who claims to be Christian is. I believe some already quoted Jesus who said not everyone who says Lord will enter the kingdom. There is also the passage where Jesus says that at the end God separates the wheat from the weeds. There are people who are part of the church, but do not actually belong to the church if that makes sense.

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This.
In your walk with Christ you may encounter many who say they are and then turns out they walking a different way, but YOU keep your eyes on Jesus. If someone is stumbling or falling yes help them up but dont let them drag you down or lead you astray.

Korean-American Christian said:

Our words, actions, and way of life should resemble the characteristics of Jesus himself.

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15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believes and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believes not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils;
they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them;
they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven,
and sat on the right hand of God.
20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them,
and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
Mark 16:15-20

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ
for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off,
even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Acts 2:39-39

8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth,
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
Ephesians 5:8-10

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Galatians 5:22-25

Never mind

You mean are there people who believe they are saved and are not?

Yes, there are a lot of them. You will know them by their fruits.

StevenBelievin said:

You mean are there people who believe they are saved and are not?

Yes, there are a lot of them. You will know them by their fruits.

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How come some groups/ official or not/ call groups of Christians "not Christian" and call unrepentant sinners "hunky dorey" (as if they're fine even if they never repent) . Why can't they tell the difference ?

yeshuaslavejeff said:

How come some groups/ official or not/ call groups of Christians "not Christian" and call unrepentant sinners "hunky dorey" (as if they're fine even if they never repent) . Why can't they tell the difference ?

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I would definitely not call unrepentant sinners "hunky dorey". The unrepentant sinners that call themselves Christians, go to church and read their bibles are not "hunky dorey" either. That's my point. Don't get me wrong, even genuine Christians aren't perfect but they should strive to be.

What if you suffer from anxiety? Can I still be a Christian to you? It says in Revelation:
{21:8} But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

devin553344 said:

What if you suffer from anxiety? Can I still be a Christian to you? It says in Revelation:
{21:8} But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

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I have anxiety too.

To be perfectly honest, I get a little irritated with a few Christians, not all Christians.

It is obvious to me, in fact it's Elementary, that when somebody is living a life of sin, like they are sleeping with a prostitute or or going around gossiping without repentance is not a true Christian.

The problem that I have is that Christians are constantly accusing each other of not being true Christians because their theologies are different or they are not doing enough Good Deeds. I have seen Christians accuse each other of not being true Christians because the way they came to Jesus Christ. One person was saying that he came to Jesus Christ out of fear. And then you have Christian saying 'well then you're not a true Christian.' I am not at all saying the all Christians do this. I have found other Christians to be very helpful in this matter. I am someone who fears the wrath of God. And if I could not be saved until I no longer fear the wrath of God, then I will never be saved. But I am coming to him and I will seek him out of fear.

But this is my take on it. Peter says that anyone who calls upon the name of the Lord Jesus shall be saved, whether it's out of fear or love, we can still be saved. And no, I am not saying that it's ok to call upon the name of the Lord Jesus and continue in sin. In fact, if you call upon the name of the Lord Jesus with your whole heart you don't want to sin.

I have anxiety too. But I believe that there is healing in the name of Jesus. I may struggle with anxiety throughout my whole life. But I don't believe that it means that I will not be saved. I do believe that people with anxieties who live under the power of the Holy Spirit can boldly proclaim the gospel. Look at Peter. He denied Jesus Christ three times and when he was filled with the Holy Spirit, he was filled with boldness. He still struggled with fear. I mean Paul caught him not wanting to associate with the Gentiles when the Jews were around. But then later he was crucified for preaching the gospel upside down. He is an example of someone who had anxiety but overcame it by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Now, I don't really have the right to be preaching to anybody. I have my own besetting sins. But I think I'm going to really work hard at trusting Jesus for my salvation and for deliverance of my sin. And yes, my reasons for seeking God for the Salvation of my soul is out of fear.

The problem with me isn't that I still sin, the problem is that I have a spirit of unbelief.

Peter says that anyone who calls upon the name of the Lord Jesus shall be saved. I am done listening to the voice that says I may get saved or I may not get saved.

Yes, it does say that not everybody who calls Jesus Lord Lord shall be saved. But that's not talking about people who put their trust in Jesus Christ. I think that's talking about people who never really put their trust in Jesus Christ but they're trying to earn their way into heaven or it's talking about people who continue to live in sin and yet they call themselves Christians. I don't know. I don't know everything. I have heard a couple of different interpretations of that verse. But I do know that if we put our trust in Jesus Christ and we seek him first, he gives us the desires to turn away from sin, and to do what he wants us to do. Paul said it is not I who lives but Christ lives Within Me.

This kind of transformation hasn't happen to me yet. But I am going to seek it. I am sick and tired of my sin. It feels good for like a second, and then I'm very angry that I did it.

Its pretty simple to me. If you have love for one another then you prove you are his disciples.
That also means love for our enemies. Our mean bosses. Our pushy in-laws. That professor who thinks he knows everything. Our political adversaries. Those who cheat us and steal from us. everyone.

Yes, we are told to help sinners to escape their sin, but in love. For instance, constantly nagging a spouse to stop smoking by telling them it is bad simply reinforces the bad behavior. Shoving a sign that says "abortion is murder" in the face of a girl going into planned parenthood is not loving. It is condemning.
If you loved her, you would stop her and talk to her gently and be genuinely concerned about her situation. There is a loving way to help people, but condemnation is the tactic of the devil. Why would a real Christian do that?

Shempster said:

Shoving a sign that says "abortion is murder" in the face of a girl going into planned parenthood is not loving. It is condemning.

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Not always. If she had a pistol in her hand , and was raising her hand to shoot herself dead, that is not the time to be slow and patient , per se, but quick and decisive - without condemnaton.

Fear saves life and so does courage, and both kill and both save, depending on the situation. Well then maybe God decides who has courage and who fears, and maybe man at times. Bizarre though maybe

devin553344 said:

Fear saves life and so does courage, and both kill and both save, depending on the situation. Well then maybe God decides who has courage and who fears, and maybe man at times. Bizarre though maybe...

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The sign or warning , strong and clear, is sometimes just to shock someone out of the stupor they are in - the haze, when they are deceived; hoping they are not fully heart set on sinning.

Like waking a sinner up from the dead "wake oh sinner, rise from the dead!"
Whenever someone is ready to kill another, it may be too late, or it may not be too late. If God permits, we may save a life.

Immersed in prayer - every day - not just when we see someone sinning or about to ... immersed in prayer living in union with JESUS ---- act now, act quickly ,
already having been in long fervent prayer full of thankfulness and praise to God, ready in a moment to speak HIS WORD , in season and out of season, so others maybe be healed/ saved/ prevented from doing what they will regret the rest of their life....

devin553344 said:

Fear saves life and so does courage, and both kill and both save, depending on the situation. Well then maybe God decides who has courage and who fears, and maybe man at times. Bizarre though maybe

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This I agree with.

That verse that says 'the fearful will be cast into the Lake of Fire', I think it's talking about cowards you turn away from God out of fear of men, not those who obey him out of fear for God. Jesus did say to fear God who has the power to throw both soul and body into hell.

Korean-American Christian said:

Your words and actions will reveal who you really are.

There is an epidemic among Christians of cosmetic religion.

Many individuals create a “religious” outer shell, but have yet to allow the message of Jesus to transform them on the inside.

We must live a life that reflects Jesus in our everyday life. Our words, actions, and way of life should resemble the characteristics of Jesus himself.

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My question is this... How far should we become "Jesus-like"? He was at the very least a demigod, or God Himself if you believe in the Trinity. We are humans. We are His followers. God and Jesus never meant for us to claim dominion over anybody. We were meant to be meek and humble, not powerful and proud. All those self-help books regarding leadership and confidence are horse-s***.

Jesus spoke with authority. He wasn't arrogant but he was sincere in His claim of divinity. Are we supposed to follow that? What the hell do we have to do if that's the case? Become godlike?

The message of Jesus was simple. There are two commandments to follow. Number one is to love God. Number two is to love your neighbors. That's it. Everything else is just extra fluff. We don't have to become "Jesus-like" because that would be silly and unattainable. We aren't divine. We're merely a glorified version of apes. Yes, we have a touch of divinity, but we're still far inferior compared to Jesus.

Korean-American Christian said:

Are all Christians Christian?

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Perhaps the question should be, are all Christians disciples of Jesus?


"If you remain in my word, then you are truly my disciples. You will know the truth, and the truth will make you free."
John 8:31-32

Unfortunately many don’t seem to be disciples of Jesus.