Flat Earth V.S Round Earth? (Also helio/geocentrism)

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Then you would also agree that God is Light?

The Father is a Spirit, not light. A Spirit is not energy as energy is an attribute of our physical world. A spirit is not part of our physical world. this is a category error on your part.
 
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Remember that energy cannot be created nor destroyed: therefore God cannot be create nor destroyed: therefore God is Energy.
Really? Some high school teachers responsible for teaching logic need to be a given a hard slap.
 
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Yes I do and not simply because I say so or think or feel or believe so: the evidence regarding the earth from the Bible and people's own videos show consistently that our flase claim of earth does not line up with what we observe in nature or is described in the Bible. Will you believe in the science (knowledge) of the Bible or the science (knowledge) of man? It's not because people are claiming this earth or that earth that they will not be saved: it's about wheter or not they are bearing true or false witness in their testimonyy.

I would rather just trust in the words of Jesus. :)
 
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Sounds like you are using your own human logic there to figure that out...

Hmmm...
Not sure what you mean when the apostle John declares that God is Light and also tells us that the light became flesh and dwelt among us. When we take the Greek translation of Energy into account then we see it is consistent with Genesis 1:1-2:3 which shows God as the Worker creating all of His works and resting on the 7th Day from all His works which He had made the previous six days.
 
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I would rather just trust in the words of Jesus. :)
That's being lazy and not giving a defense of your beliefs. After all we are to study and be ready to give a defense for what we believe in.
 
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Really? Some high school teachers responsible for teaching logic need to be a given a hard slap.
Please stop arguing from sarcasm as it does not give any credibility to your arguments or defense. If you have a problem then state it or point it out and argue.
 
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Science believes that it is hollow as well. I don't know one way or the other. Supposedly they fired a missile at it and it rang like a bell.

If this is true, I promise to leave this thrwad, never to return.
 
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The Father is a Spirit, not light. A Spirit is not energy as energy is an attribute of our physical world. A spirit is not part of our physical world. this is a category error on your part.
Then please reconcile how scripture states that He is Spirit and He is Light and He is Love?
 
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The Father is a Spirit, not light. A Spirit is not energy as energy is an attribute of our physical world. A spirit is not part of our physical world. this is a category error on your part.
Didn't John also say that Christ is the Light and the life of men?
 
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Do you know that the word gravity only means something that is very important? The word itself has nothing to do with some invisble force pulling objects.
Pish-tosh. Where do you get this stuff, assuming you are not having fun at our expense?
 
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That's being lazy and not giving a defense of your beliefs. After all we are to study and be ready to give a defense for what we believe in.

Jesus is sufficient for me friend. I'm sorry you need more. I was like you in the past. Wrapped up in doctrines and dogma. You can become a Pharisee without even knowing it.
 
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The Father is a Spirit, not light. A Spirit is not energy as energy is an attribute of our physical world. A spirit is not part of our physical world. this is a category error on your part.
Would you agree that spirit has energy? After all the spirit moves the body and that movement as we observe in nature is due to energy: therefore spirit has energy. When the Spirit of God hovered over the waters it moved because it as energy within itself.
 
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Pish-tosh. Where do you get this stuff, assuming you are not having fun at our expense?
Read up on a dictionary which shows the etymology of a word. It's not that difficult.
 
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Jesus is sufficient for me friend. I'm sorry you need more. I was like you in the past. Wrapped up in doctrines and dogma. You become a Pharisee without even knowing it.
And Jesus was more knowledgable than the Pharisees and defended His position from scripture His whole life. Why don't follow His example?
 
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Arguing doctrines of men interests me little. My beliefs feel fine without excess debate and strife.
If you paid attention to anything I said I didn't bring up the teachings of men and bother to quote from them. I've been arguing from the Bible.
 
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Didn't John also say that Christ is the Light and the life of men?

Can you prove that this isn't metaphorical? He is saying Christ is a spiritual light for people in spiritual darkness. He is spiritual life for people who are spiritually dead.
 
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Pish-tosh. Where do you get this stuff, assuming you are not having fun at our expense?
Type in gravity etymology in Google and you will see that it is Latin for weight or seriousness.
 
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And Jesus was more knowledgable than the Pharisees and defended His position from scripture His whole life. Why don't follow His example?

He was beating them at their own game. Knowledge of scripture is what the Pharisees respected.

If you like scripture, that's great, just don't let it become your idol.
 
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