Tax payers monies taken away from Planned Parenthood -- thoughts?

NothingIsImpossible said:

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Don't know who Connie Chung is. Name sounds familiar.

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Newsperson. Married to Maury Povich.
She is an Asian Jew. Not Sure which tribe were the Asians though?

None the less my bible says jews are still Gods children.

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OK.. and the scriptures I provided that say Jews who do not follow the Law are EXCOMMUNICATED out of Covenant with God and have NO inheritance are meaningless to you? We should tear them out of our Bibles?

If we hate jews, we hate God. At least its how I was taught.

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So When God Excommunicates an unfaithful Jew out of Covenant with Him, He is hating Himself?

We can be against what they do of course, but we cannot hate them.

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Who here has claimed Hatred of Jews? certainly not me.
I view all Christ Rejectors equally, be it Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Pagan, Atheist, whatever...
I hold none above the other. All are in need of Christ and will perish without Him.

And if you agree we can be against what they do, Like providing free on demand Abortion, what is your objection to my saying we shouldn't support their Abortion policies with our tax dollars?

tulc said:

So...money to support Israel (a very pro-abortion country) =good Christian, money to support Planned Parenthood=bad Christian?
tulc(is just trying to be sure he understands)

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OK TULC, I'm all for cutting funding to the Israelis, and push them to stop the Jewish settlements, and use diplomatic to stop the price tag style attacks, would your side ever be OK with totally defunding Planned Parenthood, and protecting Catholic hospitals from having to provide contraceptives, and Abortions. A deal is a deal, right? Or is your side looking for total victory with no compromise.

Orthodoxjay1 said:

OK TULC, (snip).

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Actually, it's all lower case letters in tulc, no upper case ones at all.
tulc(just wanted to point that out)

Mountainmanbob said:

My wife and I know a lot of Ladies in all walks of life and not ONE that we know goes to Planned Parenthood for ANY services.
But, this could be because they are not seeking abortions.
Which many these days see as a sin.
Just because the law says it's alright, doesn't mean it's right in God's eyes.
M-Bob

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...you know all the health care providers of all people you know?
tulc(finds that interesting, unlikely, but interesting)

Orthodoxjay1 said:

OK TULC, I'm all for cutting funding to the Israelis, and push them to stop the Jewish settlements, and use diplomatic to stop the price tag style attacks, would your side ever be OK with totally defunding Planned Parenthood, and protecting Catholic hospitals from having to provide contraceptives, and Abortions. A deal is a deal, right? Or is your side looking for total victory with no compromise.

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I also don't have a problem with no aid to Israel (and Egypt).
If that indeed is the deal breaker on that kind of compromise....
I am not holding my breath on you being answered on that one.

SolomonVII said:

I also don't have a problem with no aid to Israel (and Egypt).
If that indeed is the deal breaker on that kind of compromise....
I am not holding my breath on you being answered on that one.

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That a compromise I can hold to, aid to Egypt needs to be withheld too, I always viewed the Camp David accords as nothing but blackmail, you know along the lines of "peace for foreign aid". You see we can do what the politicians can't

I'm all for cutting funding to the Israelis, and push them to stop the Jewish settlements, and use diplomatic to stop the price tag style attacks, would your side ever be OK with totally defunding Planned Parenthood, and protecting Catholic hospitals from having to provide contraceptives, and Abortions.

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uhmmm...shouldn't you guys be the ones insisting on the no aid to Israel? I'm all for Planned Parenthood getting well funded, what I found puzzling was how the same group that insisted no money for one group had no problem supplying trillions of dollars to the other group.

A deal is a deal, right? Or is your side looking for total victory with no compromise.

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Ask me when your side cuts all aid. Till then? It's just two guys talking on CF.
tulc(just back from the wilds of Michigan!)

tulc at least is a christian who has never pretended to have an issue with abortion. lots of christians here have no problem with abortion at all, and tulc never stood out as being against the abortion mills in any way.
why wouldn't tulc be all for supporting pp then, whatever israel does or doesn't do?

The challenge was to Catholics and like minded Christians who presumably do have an issue with abortion. For those who have no issue with the 50 million dead babies of PP, the challenge is not before them. It is only for those whose passions are raised against the prospect of funding abortion in the first plaice and keeping those mills churning out baby by-products and the associated fetal industrial wastes left behind by the abortion industry.

NothingIsImpossible wonders why tulc replies to everything on CF with sarcasm that really is just passive aggressiveness. NothingIsImpossible wonders if tulc has read tulcs bible about not stirring a brother to anger. NothingIsImpossible also points out this about talking in third person:
Similarly illeism is used with an air of grandeur, to give the speaker lofty airs. Idiosyncratic and conceited people are known to either use or are lampooned as using illeism to puff themselves up or illustrate their egosim and narcissism.

NothingIsImpossilbe wonders if tulc realizes being like that is a sin and if tulc even cares about the subject.

Tax payers monies taken away from Planned Parenthood -- thoughts?

There will always be programs financed with tax money whose morality is open to question - germ warfare, nuclear weapons, coal subsidies, etc.

Even if Roe v Wade was reversed tomorrow, international studies have shown that young women will continue having abortions irrespective of the laws.

Given the budget cuts that "The Donald" has proposed, "children" do not rank high on the governments list of priorities!

The socialist meme that only big government truly cares about children is pretty ridiculous.
Budget cuts will leave children dying in the streets is just a tad alarmist.

SolomonVII said:

Budget cuts will leave children dying in the streets is just a tad alarmist.

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But "Obamacare Government death panels are going to euthanize your grandma" is perfectly sane...

parousia70 said:

But "Obamacare Government death panels are going to euthanize your grandma" is perfectly sane...

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You tell me. This was never anything I said, or ascribed to. My criticisms of Obamacare have been along the lines is that it was all based in lies, that it is clunky, that it was poorly designed, and that it may well be unsustainable, as more people opt out and rates continue to rise.

American partisan hyperbole had Paul Ryan shoving granny down a cliff in her wheelchair.

Oh, but I guess that was true, and death panels are ridiculous.
Such is the nature of American partisanship that people take one set of facts as serious truth and the other set of facts as too inane for words.

NothingIsImpossible wonders why tulc replies to everything on CF with sarcasm that really is just passive aggressiveness.

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I don't. See how easy that was?

NothingIsImpossible wonders if tulc has read tulcs bible about not stirring a brother to anger.

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Are you saying because I post a different view point then yours I'm in sin because it makes you angry? That doesn't seem...right.

NothingIsImpossible also points out this about talking in third person:
Similarly illeism is used with an air of grandeur, to give the speaker lofty airs. Idiosyncratic and conceited people are known to either use or are lampooned as using illeism to puff themselves up or illustrate their egosim and narcissism.

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hmmm...and here I just thought it mattered more what was being said rather then how it was being said. It's probably a good thing to remember I only post like that after I sign my name, so if it really bothers you you should stop reading after the "c" in tulc, there, problem solved.

NothingIsImpossilbe wonders if tulc realizes being like that is a sin and if tulc even cares about the subject.

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A sin? I'd be interested in seeing the Scriptures about using the third person voice in online posting after you sign your name. I mean, I read my Bible every day and don't recall ever coming across those Scriptures in all the times I've gone through the Bible.
tulc(wonders if NothingIsImpossible remembered to stop reading after the "c" in tulc?)

tulc said:

I don't. See how easy that was?

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Good, now we are making progress!

tulc said:

Are you saying because I post a different view point then yours I'm in sin because it makes you angry? That doesn't seem...right.

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I'm saying you like to say things in a way to purposely frustrate people then say thats not what you were doing. Another word would be trolling.

tulc said:

hmmm...and here I just thought it mattered more what was being said rather then how it was being said. It's probably a good thing to remember I only post like that after I sign my name, so if it really bothers you you should stop reading after the "c" in tulc, there, problem solved.

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To be fair I read your posts because sometimes you do post some nice things. Its why your not on my ignore list yet.

tulc said:

A sin? I'd be interested in seeing the Scriptures about using the third person voice in online posting after you sign your name. I mean, I read my Bible every day and don't recall ever coming across those Scriptures in all the times I've gone through the Bible.

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The sin is not talking in third person but the fact talking in third person is due to ego, narcissism and pretending to be better than anyone else. Which are all sins. I've only met two other people who have ever talked in third person. One in real life and one online. Both were pretty cocky and arrogant. I don't know you in person so maybe its all just a ruse, then again thats sort of the point I guess. To be who you are not.

NothingIsImpossible said:

Good, now we are making progress

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I wasn't aware we needed to make some.

I'm saying you like to say things in a way to purposely frustrate people then say thats not what you were doing. Another word would be trolling

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That's one way of looking at it. Of course, it's not actually what's happening but then it's a lot easier to pretend I'm trolling then to admit I might simply have a different view point and you can't seem to refute the things I'm posting?

To be fair I read your posts because sometimes you do post some nice things. Its why your not on my ignore list yet.

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Thanks.

The sin is not talking in third person but the fact talking in third person is due to ego, narcissism and pretending to be better than anyone else. Which are all sins. I've only met two other people who have ever talked in third person. One in real life and one online. Both were pretty cocky and arrogant. I don't know you in person so maybe its all just a ruse, then again thats sort of the point I guess. To be who you are not.

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Ahhh! So...you don't know why I do it, but you simply assume the worst possible motive, throw in a couple of mental illnesses and go from there? Sounds legit to me!
tulc(and that concludes the last time he'll talk about his posting style in this thread not about posting styles)

tulc said:

I wasn't aware we needed to make some.

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Yes, I require it.

tulc said:

That's one way of looking at it. Of course, it's not actually what's happening but then it's a lot easier to pretend I'm trolling then to admit I might simply have a different view point and you can't seem to refute the things I'm posting?

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Well you could always tell me your view on it. Is the sarcasm meant to be...well sarcastic or is it just how you speak and not how its meant to be?

tulc said:

Thanks.

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Your welcome.

tulc said:

Ahhh! So...you don't know why I do it, but you simply assume the worst possible motive, throw in a couple of mental illnesses and go from there? Sounds legit to me!

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Well explain why you speak in third person then. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm just going by psychology.

NothingIsImpossible said:

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Well explain why you speak in third person then. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm just going by psychology.

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Because I find it a fun thing to do. And that's the last time I'm going to talk about this in a thread not about posting styles.
tulc(guesses NothingIsImpossible took tulcs advice and stopped reading after the "c" in tulc's signature!)

tulc said:

Because I find it a fun thing to do. And that's the last time I'm going to talk about this in a thread not about posting styles.
tulc(guesses NothingIsImpossible took tulcs advice and stopped reading after the "c" in tulc's signature!)

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In that case I apologize for assuming things.

NothingIsImpossible said:

Yes they are. Unless your a christian that supports abortion. If PP didn't support abortion then it would be fine. Anyways we should rely on God for help, not PP. Or even the church. There is insurance for christians that when you go to the doctor the bill goes to the insurance and basically all the christians monthly fees are in one giant pot to pay off bills. So your all basically paying for each others bills. People should look into it.

I had you set to ignore Tulc but unignored you because you are a interesting person. I'm just trying to figure out why in so many topics you always seem to be more for unchristian values instead. What is your denomination?

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I have, and it's not available in my area.
And unless you've got 13K laying around, you're not getting in anyway.

My Church also looked into it a yr or so ago, and it's a little cheaper for the Body of 1K +/- @ just over 100K. Our deacon body decided that since we had only recently paid off a 300K debt to purchase property to expand our youth facilities intially purchased in 96 for a little over 1 mil, that asking the Body to fund an Ins pool would be a tough ask, and while not completely off the agenda just yet, not likely to get a vote anytime soon since our Pastor has just resigned after 13 yrs for subliminally suggesting we support the Rapist/Atheist in Chief b/c the fake news was calling him out on his massa Putin controlling his diplomatic agenda.