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A sermon series I bumped into that I enjoyed listening to though it was deep and meaningful. Others might find these sermons good as well. (The only issue with this sermon is that the preacher demands joy from us, but I think God loves/longs to see His joy in us, but otherwise great theme and great truths.)

Don't Worry: Be Joyful by R.C. Sproul
 
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His Light Out Of Our Darkness.
Finding Jesus in our darkest night,
is essential to escape the pit,
when despair and godforsakenness reign.

Us hurting the place called the skull,
where the destroyer carries the scepter,
crucifying our truth with those lies ruling.

Please open your eyes and see,
the darkness is not ever blind,
utter gloom reveals His marvelous light.

For His love overcomes our deepest fall,
see Him riding on His white horse,
His Sword of Truth restores what's broken.

Please anchor self only in His truth,
let nothing from His love do part,
until self is fully resurrected on the Last Day.
 
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Stand up and Walk.
Why hurt my dearest sad one?
Disquieted and anxious to be?
Please put you hope in The Son!
share Him all your inner misery.

He will certainly set you free.
Giving hidden manna to eat.
His Grace you may truly see.
No matter if you are badly beat.

So please beloved of The Lord
Take up your bed and walk
evil tongue slain by His Sword.
Walking free from that evil talk .
 
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Symptom Hate.
Symptom hate is no prank,
in the lives of those low of rank,
those who in the mire sank!

For look how hate burns within,
lovelessly making us dine on sin,
fueling the fires even at our kin!

Know how hating truly bothers,
our dear Lord, self and others,
ruthlessly good life smothers!

Hate within always looks outside
hating those in which they reside
consuming you with arrogant pride.

Please repent of a hateful heart
let wicked thoughts all depart
Loving true paves a new start.

Give hating in your heart the boot,
for hating bad life lifts your mood,
truthful love your spiritual food.
 
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Know that the lies within us always suppress the truth - that is why we can be so deep down in that bottomless pit. At first sight the bottomless pit is cruel but after a few billion trillion compressions and a billion miles down we begin to understand that we are indeed immortal and that even a black hole like this can't snuff our lives out. Only when we become completely untrue for in our true self we have died will we arrive in the fire, certainly not before, that's for sizzles! Rather the deeper we sink the more intense the light shines its truth, truly immortal light (our soul) is stuck in darkness!!!

This is because God is so merciful that no matter how much the deeds of the lies we have believed weigh us down, we will never hit rock bottom, we cannot die, and so are totally free falling as the lies drag us down living dead. Think about how deep some sinners have fallen? Like Judas? Or Adolf Hitler or Stalin or a serial killer? How long will true self fall before it hits rock bottom? A billion trillion light years? Ten times that? Eternity cannot loose any of us! The deeper we fall the brighter (and hotter) this truth so small!

Life in lies keeps going down though doesn't it? I used to have this physical sensation of falling as I was going down in my mood along with all of Creation and used to wonder if the whole of the universe is in a huge black hole called the Abyss as is, and we been going down for Centuries already - away from the truth of ourselves - all sailing down the lies of our forefathers - our cultures and our religions in that huge Abyss that produces grasshoppers devouring our good life and Scorpions stinging our misdeeds and has satan as king of it. Any son or daughter of God proven not true or right goes down back into the darkness from which no good came, to drop it back off, while the deeds committed in life and against life will punished by fire on the way and beyond. And so God uses even black holes and black matter to build us space, matter and time - even in sin - and everything makes sense again for outside of us everything is the same as inside of us.

And then we arrive at the truth, the end result of our misdeeds - Jesus on the cross dying for us - it is then we will truly mourn the lamb and learn to adore Him. It is then that the black hole spits us out into a whole new dimension to existence and everything will be upside down to how it was before and the Resurrection will be in full swing, as our good life comes back in sight. In the New Creation wrong is made right and what we thought was right will be proven wrong, while true will be established - in the new there is no darkness for it has been overcome. No Sun no Moon for God Himself is our light. So those who survive greatest desolation will certainly see greatest light, for that is how black holes work in Christ salvation story at least. However be prepared to loose 2/3 of your worldly mind and up to 9/10 of your religious one. For the compression rate inside of the bottomless pit cannot be measured by human ingenuity only by God's righteous judgment.

Peace.

Do Black Holes Compress Forever? - Universe Today
 
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The Truth Of The Lie Ruling.
Who knows the truth of the lie ruling?
Who knows the deceiver deceived?
Who knows that unfaithful betrayer?
Who killed The Truth right within you?

Was it not lies spooking around from the dark?
Was it not bad life creeping up from behind?
Was your hair standing up straight meeting evil?
Was there a chill when you perished there all alone?

Isn't the truth of the lie hiding behind true you hurting?
Isn't the deceiver dwelling in your palaces as well?
Isn't his deceptive voice a ruler over your life at times?
Isn't your troubled mind the place the liar has his throne?

Check out the Big I ruling your gone astray life in you!
Check out the Big I always taking first place above you!
Check out the Big I thinking better of itself than you!
Check out The Big I 't heart of The Lie himself you!

True self sadly dies at the murderous hand of the lie!
True misery wells from the Abyss that is untrue self
Untrue lies hurts true self with an untimely death
True life is persecuted right within us by darkness.

Untrue you needs to be exposed by God's Word
Untrue you needs to be escaped in Holy Spirit
Untrue you can not remain forever in you!
Untrue you needs to make place for true you again!

You need to see Jesus on the clouds of Heaven,
You need to be shaped anew by His loving truth.
You need a new heart and a new (S)spirit
You need to be in the first resurrection to live.

Let the lie die and kneel before The Truth
Let lies hold drop into that bottomless pit
Let the misery all go down that drain for good
Let you be a child of The Truth down here.
 
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The bible teaches us that evil is the result of lies. It were the lies Satan told Eve that killed the truth living within her and caused humanity to produce wrong deeds.

Genesis 3:1-6
"Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’”


“You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. “For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”


When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it."



The bible teaches us that Satan is the father of lies and has control over religious leaders just as much, if not more, as other fallen people.

John 8:44

"You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."

Evil has its being within us through the lies that we believe, about God, ourselves and our neighbour. Those lies kill the potential for lasting good to grow within our hearts and minds. Lies kill the truth (God's image) within us and cause us to think untrue thoughts which in turn effect our feelings and of course our deeds.

The sad truth is that lies never produce good, but rather steals, exploits, enslaves, imprisons, perverts, and kills good life out of our reality, apart of when we lie to protect good life against bad life.

Lies bring into being 'uncreated' by God realities (or black matter,) within our life individually, as well as universally collectively, (Revelation 9) those lies build untrue being inside of us and kills, distorts, perverts, imprisons, enslaves, and contaminates our God given true lives and blows our soul up like a balloon about to burst with black matter.

The Word wails this process going on in our hearts and points the finger straight at the offspring of unfaithfulnesses within us killing our good life.

Isaiah 57:1-4
"The righteous perish,
and no one takes it to heart;
the devout are taken away,
and no one understands
that the righteous are taken away
to be spared from evil.
Those who walk uprightly
enter into peace;
they find rest as they lie in death.


“But you—come here, you children of a sorceress,
you offspring of adulterers and prostitutes!
Who are you mocking?
At whom do you sneer
and stick out your tongue?
Are you not a brood of rebels,
the offspring of liars?"


The problem is that even though our lives in lies is untrue, our resulting deeds are not! To be untrue causes very bad things to happen in truth. When we see the truth then we mourn our lives in lies and do away with it like a dirty menstrual cloth. The results of the lie inside are always loathsome. The TRUTH of THE LIE is The terrible seven headed ten horned Red Dragon God's Word goes on about, the inner abomination in the place where our Lord ought to rule from and that causes us our horrific desolation. The tragic death of our Lord right within us because we heeded lies and not God's Truth.

Revelation 1:7
"“Look, he is coming with the clouds,
and “every eye will see him,
even those who pierced him”;
and all peoples on earth “will mourn because of him.
So shall it be! Amen."


So no one will be able to refute the truth of God, He knows full well what the consequences of the lie within us and outside of us are. He has suffered all the evil that lies have brought into being and brought it to a good ending.

Colossians 1:20

"and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross."

So only the truth can save us from the lies that have us captive, to believe anything else is simply another lie. It is for us to let our old, world taught, ways of doing things go, and let His loving truth renew our mind and our lives instead.

This is the battle of our life time! Will we let Jesus untangle us from the lies that have us captive or will we keep heeding the lies and bring more bad life into being?

John 8:36
"So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed."
 
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I think that the biggest lies laid hidden in my guilty conscience. I served my guilty conscience for many years before I realized that the abomination that causes desolation has his throne right there. That horrible red dragon play god in my fallen life and robbing me of my God given good life.

It has amazed me that the Christian religion down here serves the guilty conscience in light of Christ's salvation. For Christ's salvation clears our guilty conscience and turns it into a crystal sea which leads us before God's countenance. For the pure shall see God - while a guilty conscience cannot face God but hides us away in the dungeons below the surface instead. Clearly Paul tells us that he endevours to keep his conscience clear for good reason.

How does a guilty conscience work?

A guilty conscience comes our way after we heed lies, follow satan, and do something wrongfully knowingly or we think we do something wrong because we transgress some social or religious rule. Ultimately a guilty conscience is the truth of our bad life placed there by God because we polluted/perverted our truth of being.

So far all good! See our Lord placed two fiery angels at the gates of paradise - one called guilt and one called shame, it are those messengers from God who keep us away from seeing or having existence again in a perfect world while we are defiled by sin. Our guilty conscience keeps an impassable barrier between God's lasting good life and life gone bad which constantly has to consume our good life to stay in life.

However the problem starts when people heed their guilty conscience pressing guilt and shame on them in lies instead of the truth of Jesus Christ and him crucified.

This marks true and untrue repentance!

True repentance acknowledges wrongdoing to Jesus and dies to that eating His flesh/deeds instead of their own sinful ones, and drinking his blood/life instead of drinking from their own polluted waters. True repentance cleanses our spirit and Renews/Enlightens us with the Holy Spirit of God instead. True repentance produces no shame, guilt nor fear, but rather a thankfully loving and joyful heart. True repentance sets us free from the guilt of our sin - time and again - even up to 490 times a day - and enables us to serve God with our flesh from our own free will instead of having to be chained to our flesh's, world's or religion's will. True repentance is humble and lowly and doesn't make personal demands, nor swells up our egocentric self, but rather puts our big I at the end of the line in our salvation process.

While untrue repentance wails sin, eats and drinks shame, and demands payment from the sinner to put things straight. No matter how much the name Jesus is used - His loving truth doesn't cleanse the sinner from their sin nor sets them free from it. Rather the accuser in their guilty conscience demands that they stop their sin(s) in their own power and sacrifice their good life to the god of the guilty conscience in the process of doing that. Untrue repentance gets the wrongdoer to make all kind of promises to the god in their guilty conscience which cannot be kept enduringly and brings much desolation into their lives. Wrongdoers who succeed in obeying the demands of their guilty conscience will not be free to do as they like but must treat themselves and others unfairly - constantly judging others without mercy and demand they do the same they did.

Sadly most people stop heeding their conscience forcing guilt and shame down on them without repenting of wrongdoing and so kill their remaining love and good will towards God and others and selfishly follow the path of sin consuming their and other peoples good life as they go about their ways. When we understand that then we can clearly see the deceptive nature of that fallen angel dwelling in our psyche. While religious (and power hungry,) people use this side of sin to convince good loving people that their guilty conscience is a gift of God, rather than the dwelling place of a fallen angel, and string good, loving and hard working people to all kind of religious/social duties and demands instead of spreading God's loving truth around.

For as the disciple John also saw astonishingly the harlot doesn't only entice people to become wicked but also entices people seeking to do good to do that wrongly. Religion is very much the other side of satan's split tongue we best be well aware of that. Have you seen her riding on the Dragon accuser in your sinful life controlling both good and bad in your fallen reality? When we serve the god of our guilty conscience we keep falling for that great prostitute riding his back - and sin never stops but only gets worse, and good life doesn't grow but dies, for she drinks the blood of all the chosen, our very good life, and so we have to pay very heavily to receive only a very little portion of the land.

As a religion Christianity has historically been serving the dragon much more often than true God and even today this sad fact remains true. For only those who are covered by Christ's blood can eat from the alter of God's mercy seat! Yet religion demands peoples obedience to her countless rules and commands and so pollutes the possibility of a clean conscience by fueling a guilty conscience with all her crap and so giving the accuser more and more power over our fallen lives through that unfaithful harlot in our flesh.(Revelation 17)

Have you noticed how the spirit of religion does that in your heart? She holds out the promises of God to you and then ties you to demand before you can have God's promise - in this way keeping away the truth of God's love and taking control over your life through must, do, and rule instead of His Spirit - true anti-Christ to be.

Like demanding that we have faith, stopping our sins before we receive grace, giving alms on demand/guilt instead of following a compassionate heart, fasting to please God, being like someone else or not being like someone else, dropping/cutting off friends or family, work as duty, reading the bible under duress, praying as must instead of a loving relationship with Christ, wrongfully forgiving others or not forgiving others, don't doubt anymore or don't feel guilty anymore, or stop being scared, or anything else you must do to be a good person again and acceptable to God.

However that is NOT how The Word cleanses us from our sin and that is NOT what the Word demands from us in return for our salvation. Such is the work of religion and not of faith.

All those who call on the Lord will be saved! Tells The Word for Jesus cried out it is finished when He completed the salvation of humanity on that accursed cross, so there is absolutely nothing we must do to be saved. Humanities salvation has been fully paid for! (1 Timothy 4:10, 1 John 2:2)

All we need faith for is to access our salvation - luckily faith is also a gift of God - so again no demand - for to demand that we have the faith to be saved is a red herring if ever there was one - however we do need the gift of faith from our Heavenly Father before we can access our salvation awaiting us on the clouds of heaven.

So if you lack faith and don't have access to your salvation but suffer the desolation of the wicked then please ask God for faith and await His gift eagerly. (Psalms 27:11-14) However never give your faith in God's good life to the demander within you rather stay away from that compulsive liar and follow the truth of God's love in Christ instead.

It took Jesus years to free me from my guilty conscience and the harlot behind it, cleansing me of my sins along the way. It can be very hard to fight reoccurring sin and to have faith in God's love and not heed the accuser dragon. For the longer we have sinned with satan in a part of our lives the more intensive to be freed from that sin within. Yet Jesus got the dragon to burn unfaithfulness living in me with fire and eat her alive and cast that dragon accuser in the pit he dug for me. I love a clear conscience for it opens my eyes to see Him on His throne ruling life in righteousness and justice. Revelation 4:2-6a
 
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The Journey unfolds as the wicked give way to to the truth of God's love in me, everyday a little more. I feel totally secure though insecurity attacks 24/7 and don't doubt His love any longer, though doubt still comes past, but I hate that fallen angel in me and doubt very much doubt has anything worthwhile to tell me about The Love of God and my position in that. Everyday truth speaks for Himself it is is impossible I would believe doubt and not heed God's truth alive within me instead - He got me away from my bad life and brought me back my good life why should I distrust Him?

The fire is to find His voice within and not be tricked by satan playing anti-Christ - for he sure is good at doing that. As a matter of fact I earned many a six trying to do good in my own strength but such always failed me at the critical times. By the fruits we recognise the tree though, for with Jesus we always receive grace when we repent from our sin and He makes us able to say goodbye to even very stubborn sin while with anti-Christ we pay and pay and pay and pay and never get anywhere fighting our sin.

As a matter of fact it is impossible to beat sin in our own ability only Jesus can get us away from it. He does that by rebuilding us anew. Not that we are not actively involved in this building process, for we certainly are, but it has to do with loving God and neighbour truly, and not just serving our own morals and values empty words to be for we do the opposite of what The Truth commands we ought to be doing, as those poor people in the grip of world religion's are so good at doing. Judging themselves by their own deeds and loosing sight of the truth in the process of hearing all those inner lies ruling their hearts and minds lying their heads off at them about how things are around and within them.

Only Jesus can get us to God - that is The Truth - for we need His truth to enter into The Truth of our Heavenly Father successfully and not get lost on the way and snared by the wicked hiding along The Way. For do we really think the wicked will let go of our hearts voluntarily and descend into hell after they got in with their lies? People who think that have a nasty surprise awaiting them when the ground opens up beneath their feet and swallows them up with everything they own when God's truth comes around and convicts them as evildoers. We best be well aware of that.

It certainly happened like that to me when I met up with Him in Revelation chapter one - time and again - in my whole household as sinner oppressed by sin, after that the God's fire comes down in earnest upon the wicked ruling setting me free along the way - time and again.

For who can escape God's wheels within wheels in wrongful lies? The evildoers in us best shudder the evil right down the drain and save themselves from it through that awesome name above all names - Jesus Christ and Him crucified paying our penalty for sin and collecting the good life we lost along the way into safe keeping upstairs with Him. For God much rather gives us mercy than send us to hell and so like always gives us the choice by sending calamity down upon us in our bad life until we leave from there and He can burn it out of us with the truth of His laser beam.
 
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There is a prayer written by Saint Alphonsa which helps me a lot;

O my Jesus, hide me in the wound of Thy Sacred Heart. Free me from my evil desire to be loved and esteemed. Guard me from the mean pursuit of honour and fame. Make me humble till I become a small spark in the flame of love in Your Sacred Heart. Grant me the grace to forget myself and all worldly things. My Jesus, who is ineffable sweetness, transform all the worldly consolations into bitterness for me. Oh my Jesus, Sun of Righteousness, enlighten my intellect and mind with Your sacred rays. Purify my heart, consume me with burning love for You, and make me one with You. By Thy Divine rays, clarify my thoughts, illumine my mind, cleanse my heart, consume me in the fire of Thy love, and thus unite me with Thee. Amen.
 
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I think the biggest mistake I kept making in my sanctification process was holding onto my bad life and trying to get into Heaven unwashed of unclean spirit. It has amazed me how tightly unclean spirituality - like guilt, shame, fear, distrust, loneliness, hopelessness, despair, and godforsakenness hold onto us when Jesus begins his cleansing process.

And not only depressed emotions but also our often more hidden lawless ones, such as lust, dishonesty, greed, arrogance, pride, love for objects/things/pleasures rather than God, or any kind of perversion of right to wrong, all in the deceptive spirit of selfishness ruling our lives gone wrong, have you guys noticed that?

It is for this reason that we have to continually be prepared to give everything we got - both good and bad back to Jesus for safe keeping and die to being like we are by only desiring Jesus and a life with Him and nobody and nothing else!

Oh brothers and sisters does Christ fire us in this!!! Daily we have to lay down our will for Father's will. Daily we choose to love God and neighbour over against loving ourselves more. Daily we deny ourselves the right to be angry or upset with those who sin against us because we love forgiveness much more than judgment. This is how good life grows in us and bad life shrinks. It certainly is an ongoing process in my life.

Honestly even for a deeply depressed person it is hard to lay down their lives. For unclean spirituality rule us during such times, and the last thing they want is for you to lay down your life and find liberation with Jesus as King. For not only does that mean that that they cannot rule your heart and mind any longer with sin and they have to see how you enjoy your God given good life, and how they miss out on that, but they also will be chained, like you were with them, and like so have to await judgment day with fearful dread. (I promise you they shudder each time The Light goes on within and chases away the darkness living there!!!)

Therefore the wicked fight their utmost to keep you in their grip - we best be well aware of that. The wicked often use methods they have successfully used on us before. Like if you are often hopeless then with hopelessness they will try and catch you and drag you back into their dungeons below the surface.

The trick to use is to lay down your life in your weak self because you love Him more than your gone wrong life - time and again - until Christ's loving truth rules your weak self within and sin begins to die in that part of your life as His truth sets you free from whatever the wicked captivated you with.

So each time we die to a dream or a desire within us that is in the hands of the wicked - where we suffer famine, oppression, judgment, scorn and hate - Jesus will cleanse us and set us free as we bring ourselves to Him for cleansing. Once our cleansing process is finished He will bring our hope, dream, or desire back - all clean - and we will be able to enjoy life with Him instead of suffer it.

All 144,000 chosen in us will find their crown, their new name, and learn the new song as they rule with Christ, we can be utterly assured of that when we let Jesus work like that in our hearts. Letting Him take us through the Wheels within Wheels that is life in His Word of Truth.

It is awesome to rule with Christ over life for only He is good and with him we can access ALL in ALL and that is unspeakable bliss to be touched by our Heavenly Father Above as He makes His dwelling within our hearts.

Be of very good courage.

Revelation 3:21
"To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne."
 
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It judgmental eye lives inside human hearts plundering souls on its way down the pit. Down in that hole judgmental eye will divide up what has been build and smite the lost within hardest. And so it judgmental eye reaps all judgment upon those foolish enough to entertain it in their hearts.

Like Jesus said - if your eye offends you best pluck it out!
 
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Saw a councilor today - was good but hard. This is The Word that Rescued me from vacuum cleaner going through my reality today because of some of that.

Genesis 1:1-3
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light.:clap::clap::clap:


Seeing Is Knowing
Consciousness rules all!
Consciousness is all!
His wheels within wheels
have eyes all over me!

It is the liar creating useless matter
I want to get my hands on!
Unsustainable energy consumption
grown completely out of control.

Falling deeper, darkness surrounding!
The joke is on me the falling star.
I am who I am as much as I am in deed!
Come to grips with your inner lies mate!

What good does Hades have I want?
Looking down that black hole so deep
What’s one fallen star gone matter?
Billions more to light up instead!

It is that useless black matter growing
pushing everything beyond grasp!
Ever more light swallowing nothingness expanding,
That is how the Creator rewards my lies!

Surrendering to the moments a slave?
Keep falling for ever in a heap?
Observing ‘t heart bubbling lava!
to get away from these hell fires burning!

The valley of decision looms once again.
time and again demanding my choice
which way to go from here?
Place this erupting volcano in the sea?

Row against the flow, row against the flow!
Who wants to go over the edge?
White water rafting Niagara falls?
Rather go up high then down low!!!

Walked on the water just before!
sank fast watching the waves crashing
Ever seen black holes collide in angry embrace?
true vacuum cleaner run renegade if ever!


Conclusion arrived at? (Revelation 21:1-8)


To love true doesn’t create stone dead space.
Love shines the light of God galore.
lighting up all that dark matter dividing
New Creation speaking plainly once more!
 
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I thought this was an excellent article for those of us who have been seriously grieved by others and find it hard to come to grips with the anger and unforgiven feelings they might feel towards those who hurt them.

How to Handle Negative Feelings When Wronged by Others
 
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