Dog Owner Says Alleged Animal Cruelty Was Actually Kindness

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People here can get charged for not taking their pets/dogs/sheep/cattle out of pain and/or face a gaol sentence therefore their laws obviously require updating.

If there was significant pain relief for those of whom do not pray for their pets/dogs, then pain relief may be sufficient but not to leave them in pain without heartfelt prayer and trust in Jesus and/or significant pain relief.
 
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It's interesting that what has for centuries been considered a kindness, killing an animal in pain, which when done by someone who has been shown how to do it in the quickest way possible is a kindness (good hunters and farmers know this stuff), has only recently been considered a crime. It's been my experience that the people who scream the loudest about these things are generally the people with the least knowledge. They have an idealistic view of the world and how things work but little if any personal experience. Which is kinder? To take the dog somewhere it loves to go, a familiar setting where it feels comfortable because it has always been happy there and then quickly kill it with a bullet in the right spot, or to take it to a clinic where it is frightened by all the smells and the memories of scary experiences, placed into the hands of strangers and set on a cold hard table. Most dogs don't like being on tables by the way, it's very frightening for them. Then the strangers use clippers to shave part of it's leg, also scary for a dog that has never needed clippers before. Then a long needle is jammed into their leg, into a vein; I've had surgery a few times, this has never been a comfortable or pleasant experience. Next comes the nasty drug that at first will give the dog a feeling of being out of control before it succumbs to it and dies in the hands of people it has probably never known. After that the vet will give the owner a huge bill that the average person can barely afford.
So in the end which is kinder? To be happy and then just gone? Or to be given over to strangers in a place that you have never been happy while sick and in pain and have them do scary and potentially painful things that you don't understand while unable to ask your person to please take you home. The man who shoots their sick pet (provided they know how to do it right) that they have loved all their life isn't cruel. The person who arrests them for doing it is.
 
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It's interesting that what has for centuries been considered a kindness, killing an animal in pain, which when done by someone who has been shown how to do it in the quickest way possible is a kindness (good hunters and farmers know this stuff), has only recently been considered a crime.
It's only a crime if the vet doesn't profit from it, I guess.
 
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Which is kinder? To take the dog somewhere it loves to go, a familiar setting where it feels comfortable because it has always been happy there and then quickly kill it with a bullet in the right spot, or to take it to a clinic where it is frightened by all the smells and the memories of scary experiences, placed into the hands of strangers and set on a cold hard table. Most dogs don't like being on tables by the way, it's very frightening for them. Then the strangers use clippers to shave part of it's leg, also scary for a dog that has never needed clippers before. Then a long needle is jammed into their leg, into a vein; I've had surgery a few times, this has never been a comfortable or pleasant experience. Next comes the nasty drug that at first will give the dog a feeling of being out of control before it succumbs to it and dies in the hands of people it has probably never known. After that the vet will give the owner a huge bill that the average person can barely afford.
So in the end which is kinder? To be happy and then just gone? Or to be given over to strangers in a place that you have never been happy while sick and in pain and have them do scary and potentially painful things that you don't understand while unable to ask your person to please take you home. The man who shoots their sick pet (provided they know how to do it right) that they have loved all their life isn't cruel. The person who arrests them for doing it is.
Many modern veterinarians come to a place of the owner's choosing to deliver euthanasia, and even in a hospital setting, it is generally the owners choice if the wants to be present.
 
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I think 99% of the people who whine about how domesticated animals are treated are hypocrites. The fact is, unless you're a vegan who abstains from all animal products altogether, you really have no business scolding anyone else about the treatment of animals.

For the record, I'm not a vegan, I eat plenty of animal products...however, I'm never going to suggest that someone be locked up for mistreating a dog or cat just because those animals are viewed as "pets" while it's perfectly legal to take pneumatic hammer to a pig and drain it while it's still kicking to make pork chops.
 
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I think 99% of the people who whine about how domesticated animals are treated are hypocrites. The fact is, unless you're a vegan who abstains from all animal products altogether, you really have no business scolding anyone else about the treatment of animals.

For the record, I'm not a vegan, I eat plenty of animal products...however, I'm never going to suggest that someone be locked up for mistreating a dog or cat just because those animals are viewed as "pets" while it's perfectly legal to take pneumatic hammer to a pig and drain it while it's still kicking to make pork chops.
I think you're a bit overreaching. Killing animals for food after stunning them or otherwise rendering them unconcious is a very different thing than, for example, pouring gasoline over them and setting them on fire for giggles.

Is someone who complains about the second thing a hypocrite in your books?
 
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It sounds like he was to cheap to take him to the vet, pay a few hundred dollars to put him down . I rather pay the money to put a dog down, than shoot it my self. But with that being said. I really don't think much will happen to him.
 
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According to the article the dog was having severe seizures. The fact that he wasn't ready to let the vet put the dog down shows that the dog was already in a bad way. Most dogs with Cushings don't have severe symptoms until later in the disease. Most dogs don't even have seizures. It's very possible that was one horrifying side effect the fellow was't expecting since only a very few dogs ever have a tumor grow large enough to produce that particular neurological effect. It said that he didn't think that he would be able to safely get the dog to the 24 hour vet. This tells me that he likely didn't have a mode of transportation that would allow for her to have a seizure on the way, maybe a motorcycle? The article also leads us to believe that the man was in distress over his dog and presumed that one shot would finish her suffering - not an unlikely presumption if he had never killed anything before and just kept the gun for protection. This would also account for his horrible memories that he can't get rid of. An animal that is dead will still move and kick, you don't see that in the movies.

Personally, I feel terrible for the guy. He loved his dog so much he was willing to continue on with her illness even though it had progressed so far only to feel he had to help her in such a difficult way.
 
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It's interesting that what has for centuries been considered a kindness, killing an animal in pain, which when done by someone who has been shown how to do it in the quickest way possible is a kindness (good hunters and farmers know this stuff), has only recently been considered a crime.
That's because only relatively recently has our society decided to dive into the deep end of the Pool of Stupidity, and clearly they have no intention of ever coming out.

I was born (at least) a generation too late.
 
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You know.. I can sort of see where they are coming from. You don't want pet owners shooting their animals willy nilly, maybe even when they just got too old to be fun (or even stopped being little puppies). This is just overreach.
 
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