Baptismal Beliefs

How should baptism by performed?

  • By full immersion in "the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" (Matt. 28:19)

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  • By full immersion in "the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins" (Acts 2:38)

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  • Both are Biblically accurate and/or acceptable forms of baptism

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  • Other formula/method for baptism (specify if necessary)

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The majority of Pentecostal churches and denominations place a lot of emphasis on baptism. Almost all of them (with perhaps a few exceptions) believe in believer's baptism by full water immersion, although their formulas may differ. Some will baptize "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost", as instructed in Matthew 28:19, while others will baptize "in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins" as instructed on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2:38. Most Christians that baptize in Jesus' name are Oneness Pentecostals (as I am), but I have met some adherents of the Church of God (Cleveland, Tennessee) and some from different divisions of the Baptist faith that will baptize in Jesus' name. (Or, in some cases, I have met Christians that attended these types of churches who were baptized in Jesus' name while attending there.)

I want it made clear that I am not trying to start any kind of argument here; this is simply a discussion forum. I am not interested in tackling anyone's personal beliefs; I am just curious to know some of the following information from my fellow Pentecostal brothers and sisters in Christ.

1) When were you baptized and into which church/denomination? (Name; Denomination affiliation [if any])
2) How should a believer be baptized? (Full immersion, sprinkling, in Titles, in Jesus' name, or other)
3) What type of church do you currently attend? In what type of church were you raised? (Name; Denomination [if any])
4) Is baptism a necessity for salvation? (Should all believers be baptized? Is someone saved without having been baptized?)​

My answers to my own questions:
1) When and how was I baptized? ..... I was baptized the first time when I was maybe eight or nine years old in titles (Matthew 28:19) into Peoples Full Gospel Baptist Church. When I was seventeen, however, following a denominational conversion, I was baptized in Jesus' name into the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ.

2) How should someone be baptized? ..... Now, this is a very topical and controversial topic among Christians, particularly among the Trinitarian and Oneness divisions of Pentecostalism. First, I believe baptism is commanded by scripture, and I believe in believer's baptism by full water immersion. As for the formula, I believe Acts 2:38 is the correct method.

3) What type of church do I attend? ..... I was raised mostly in Baptist churches, attending everything from Southern Baptist to Full Gospel Baptist churches. However, my family did attend a Nazarene church for several years during my childhood. For the past two years, though, I've attended a Oneness Pentecostal church (by name, Church of the Lord Jesus Christ).

4) Is baptism a necessity for salvation? ..... Yes, I believe baptism is commanded by scripture. Multiple verses (Matthew 28:19, Acts 2:38, Acts 10:48, Acts 22:16, Mark 16:16, et cetera) throughout the scriptures instruct believers to be baptized.
 
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I went to a Pentecostal church for several years that was affiliated with the AOG. What the pastor said at baptism was this, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy spirit". I believe he was combining the two versions.
 
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Many messianics say "Baruch atah Adonai Elohenu Melech haOlam, asher kidshanu b'mitzvotav v'tzivanu al tevilla."
"Blessed are You O Lord our God who has sanctified us by the commandments and has commanded us concerning immersion."

Most will add "B'shem haAbba, B'shem haBen, v'B'shem Ruach haKodesh."
"In the Name of the Father, in the Name of the Son, and in the Name of the Holy Spirit."

But many also take "in the name of" to not be formulaic; but rather authoritative.
We baptize because the Father Son and Spirit have authorized it.
 
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I went to a Pentecostal church for several years that was affiliated with the AOG. What the pastor said at baptism was this, "I baptize you in the name of the Father, the Son, the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy spirit". I believe he was combining the two versions.
That's interesting. I don't know if I've heard of any church doing it this way. Most Assembly of God churches in my area have a strong stance on the Trinity doctrine and the Trinitarian formula for baptism. I've actually seen some that their church names are
"(City Name) Trinity Assembly of God".

I recall that the Church of God organization in Canada baptizes in titles but includes the formula "in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ".
 
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4) Is baptism a necessity for salvation? ..... Yes, I believe baptism is commanded by scripture. Multiple verses (Matthew 28:19, Acts 2:38, Acts 10:48, Acts 22:16, Mark 16:16, et cetera) throughout the scriptures instruct believers to be baptized.
You need to look a bit more closely at those verses in Acts and interpret them in the light of Matt 28. The command was not to "be baptized" (passive), but "TO baptize," (active) and is addressed to the evangelist, not the new convert. That is why I believe it is NOT salvic.
 
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The poster of this thread is a oneness believer who should not be initiating discussion on the Pentecostal/AoG forum. Oneness is not acceptable here on this Trinitarian forum and this thread should be deleted.
I don't quite see that as fair. Just because I happen to be an adherent to the Oneness doctrine shouldn't automatically exclude me from posting here. I am Pentecostal. Every person's opinions on this site will differ, whether they all attend the same type of church, whether they're all Trinitarian or all Oneness. No two people believe exactly the same. I guess since I'm Oneness that automatically makes me an outsider and enable to post here? Not seeing that as fair. I'm not aiming to offend anyone by going against their beliefs, but it seems I always get attacked simply because I don't believe just as everyone else. I posted it here because this is a Pentecostal forum, and I am Pentecostal, a Oneness Pentecostal.
 
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The majority of Pentecostal churches and denominations place a lot of emphasis on baptism. Almost all of them (with perhaps a few exceptions) believe in believer's baptism by full water immersion, although their formulas may differ. Some will baptize "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost", as instructed in Matthew 28:19, while others will baptize "in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins" as instructed on the Day of Pentecost in Acts 2:38. Most Christians that baptize in Jesus' name are Oneness Pentecostals (as I am), but I have met some adherents of the Church of God (Cleveland, Tennessee) and some from different divisions of the Baptist faith that will baptize in Jesus' name. (Or, in some cases, I have met Christians that attended these types of churches who were baptized in Jesus' name while attending there.)

I want it made clear that I am not trying to start any kind of argument here; this is simply a discussion forum. I am not interested in tackling anyone's personal beliefs; I am just curious to know some of the following information from my fellow Pentecostal brothers and sisters in Christ.

1) When were you baptized and into which church/denomination? (Name; Denomination affiliation [if any])
2) How should a believer be baptized? (Full immersion, sprinkling, in Titles, in Jesus' name, or other)
3) What type of church do you currently attend? In what type of church were you raised? (Name; Denomination [if any])
4) Is baptism a necessity for salvation? (Should all believers be baptized? Is someone saved without having been baptized?)​

My answers to my own questions:
1) When and how was I baptized? ..... I was baptized the first time when I was maybe eight or nine years old in titles (Matthew 28:19) into Peoples Full Gospel Baptist Church. When I was seventeen, however, following a denominational conversion, I was baptized in Jesus' name into the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ.

2) How should someone be baptized? ..... Now, this is a very topical and controversial topic among Christians, particularly among the Trinitarian and Oneness divisions of Pentecostalism. First, I believe baptism is commanded by scripture, and I believe in believer's baptism by full water immersion. As for the formula, I believe Acts 2:38 is the correct method.

3) What type of church do I attend? ..... I was raised mostly in Baptist churches, attending everything from Southern Baptist to Full Gospel Baptist churches. However, my family did attend a Nazarene church for several years during my childhood. For the past two years, though, I've attended a Oneness Pentecostal church (by name, Church of the Lord Jesus Christ).

4) Is baptism a necessity for salvation? ..... Yes, I believe baptism is commanded by scripture. Multiple verses (Matthew 28:19, Acts 2:38, Acts 10:48, Acts 22:16, Mark 16:16, et cetera) throughout the scriptures instruct believers to be baptized.

that you are oness i will for the present ignore .. God is ONE the hebrew word for god is plural .. so he is both . this in not in our comprehension ,if it were he would not be the incomprehensible God and thus not God .

to address your experiences of Baptism i will insert reply

you said-
My answers to my own questions:
1) When and how was I baptized? ..... I was baptized the first time when I was maybe eight or nine years old in titles (Matthew 28:19) into Peoples Full Gospel Baptist Church. When I was seventeen, however, following a denominational conversion, I was baptized in Jesus' name into the Church of the Lord Jesus Christ.-
in BOTH these cases you omitted the mention of repentance and we are not baptised into a church or a denomination ..but into CHRIST'S Death and raised in his resurrection . (for this reason the thief on the cross could not be baptised into the death of chrsit as christ had not yet died and been resurrected ) that you were re-baptized is a non issue . that you identify as being baptised into a church or denomination need to be renounced as that is not scriptural at all.

2) How should someone be baptized? ..... Now, this is a very topical and controversial topic among Christians, particularly among the Trinitarian and Oneness divisions of Pentecostalism. First, I believe baptism is commanded by scripture, and I believe in believer's baptism by full water immersion. As for the formula, I believe Acts 2:38 is the correct method.
you will find that only rcc and lutherans are insistent on false sprinkling or infant baptism and others who have strayed have swayed back to this falsehood . The word baptism from Baptizo, means to "dip" not sprinkle .and the scripture clearly states . for you were BURIED in baptism (pp) so there is little to no difference in beliefs about full immersion

3) What type of church do I attend? ..... I was raised mostly in Baptist churches, attending everything from Southern Baptist to Full Gospel Baptist churches. However, my family did attend a Nazarene church for several years during my childhood. For the past two years, though, I've attended a Oneness Pentecostal church (by name, Church of the Lord Jesus Christ).
this is a major issue that people think it has anything whatsoever to do with a sunday club building and organisation . you can be oneness or not and attend whatever sunday club you wish but if one is not exercising faith in Jesus by ones obedience to him then one will find oneself cast out on the day of his coming -this is without exception -disobedience is rebellion and the rebellious do not enter the kingdom of heaven .

4) Is baptism a necessity for salvation? ..... Yes, I believe baptism is commanded by scripture. Multiple verses (Matthew 28:19, Acts 2:38, Acts 10:48, Acts 22:16, Mark 16:16, et cetera) throughout the scriptures instruct believers to be baptized. the gospel is the good news of what jesus has done and it comes with an instructional package ... here is what christ has done for us and this is how we are to respond - REPENT ,be BAPTIZED for the remission of ur sin and we will receive the HOLY SPIRIT (the holy spirit is the eternal spirit of God and he is life - thus to not have the Holy Spirit is to not have eternal life . one does not exclude the holy Spirit and expect to have life when he IS life . ) there is clear warning in scripture about those who "disobey the good news " . salvation is not in knowing the good news -it is in knowing it then obediently responding to it through faith
for by grace we are saved THROUGH faith . faith is a verb ,an action word . it is GRACE and it is FAITH both . never one without the other .
 
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"Of the doctrine of baptisms ,..." (Heb 6:2) Baptism means union and identification.

3 baptisms; specifically:

1 - By The Holy Spirit into Jesus is baptism for salvation (blood baptism)
(Rev 1:5; Matt 26:28; Mark 1:4, 16:16; Luk 3:3; 1 Cor 12:13: Acts 2:38: Gal 3:27, +++)

Water and Spirit baptism follow - not in a set order:
2 - By other believers, water baptism (Matt 28:19)
3 - By Jesus with or into The Holy Spirit (The Spirit baptism)
(Matt 3:11; Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16; Acts 11:16)

"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." I John 5:7-8
 
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