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Just to get some other opinions on this. I read in so many places, where it is stated that the third temple will be built in the end times, and that the antichrist will come into it and say he is God.

Was not the Third Temple established when Jesus answered the Question,"what sign are you going to give us, and he answered, destroy this temple and in three days rebuild it", which was the three days before he rose and the temple being Him and those who believe in him? Aren't we the third Temple?
 

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When you hear the phrase "third temple", it's in reference to the building of an actual physical temple. It's something different than the concept of the body also being a temple, although it is the practice of some to try to make them the same thing.
 
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Just to get some other opinions on this. I read in so many places, where it is stated that the third temple will be built in the end times, and that the antichrist will come into it and say he is God.

Was not the Third Temple established when Jesus answered the Question,"what sign are you going to give us, and he answered, destroy this temple and in three days rebuild it", which was the three days before he rose and the temple being Him and those who believe in him? Aren't we the third Temple?

You are looking through the correct end of the telescope by viewing the Old Testament text through the eyes of the New Testament writers.

I am shocked that modern Christians and even some pastors, like Mark Blitz, are supporting a rebuilt Jewish temple with renewed animal sacrifices. It would be one more rejection of God's Son and would return modern Jews to the same spiritual condition that existed before the temple was destroyed in 70 AD. Modern Christians need to read 1 John 2:22-23.


1Jn 2:22  Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. 

1Jn 2:23  Whoever denies the Son does not have the Father either; he who acknowledges the Son has the Father also. 


If the Jewish temple is rebuilt, it will be what is described in Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9.

The battle between the Old Covenant and the New Covenant began in Acts chapter 15, and continues to this day. During most of the history of the Church the Judaisers have won the day. They have ignored Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24. We are not come to Mount Sinai, but to the New Covenant of Mount Zion, instead. They have ignored the temporary nature of the Old Covenant found in Galatians chapter 3, and have failed to "cast out" the Sinai covenant of "bondage" in Galatians chapter 4.

WND article about Pastor Mark Blitz and others
Messianic preparations underway as 3rd Temple planned
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I am shocked that modern Christians and even some pastors, like Mark Blitz, are supporting a rebuilt Jewish temple with renewed animal sacrifices. It would be one more rejection of God's Son and would return modern Jews to the same spiritual condition that existed before the temple was destroyed in 70 AD. Modern Christians need to read 1 John 2:22-23.
BA we have answered this for you before. Yes, I agree with you that the building of a physical temple in Jerusalem will be one more rejection of God's Son. However, the Jews do not accept God's Son, Jesus Christ, as their Messiah. They WILL build a third temple. They Will return to animal sacrifices because they DO NOT accept the Blood of Jesus for the full pardon of their sins. They suffer blindness .
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

This is NOT hard to understand.
 
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BA we have answered this for you before. Yes, I agree with you that the building of a physical temple in Jerusalem will be one more rejection of God's Son. However, the Jews do not accept God's Son, Jesus Christ, as their Messiah. They WILL build a third temple. They Will return to animal sacrifices because they DO NOT accept the Blood of Jesus for the full pardon of their sins. They suffer blindness .
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

This is NOT hard to understand.


the problem is 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
the physical temple, the so called 3rd temple, is not the temple built by Jesus.

So, for you to insist there is a physical temple is fine, there probably will be one, because Jews will insist on it, but that is not the temple referred to in 2 Thess 2:4. The 'temple' that the 'antichrist' will sit in is - Christianity/ the body of Christians.

that is where the pharmakia/ drugs for sorcery of Revelation 18 comes into play, that's where martial law tyranny comes in.
 
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the problem is 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4
3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.
the physical temple, the so called 3rd temple, is not the temple built by Jesus.

The 4th one is, Zechariah 6:12-13.


So, for you to insist there is a physical temple is fine, there probably will be one, because Jews will insist on it, but that is not the temple referred to in 2 Thess 2:4. The 'temple' that the 'antichrist' will sit in is - Christianity/ the body of Christians.

that is where the pharmakia/ drugs for sorcery of Revelation 18 comes into play, that's where martial law tyranny comes in.

The old Temple buildings were actual temples because it was the place where the Spirit of God dwelled. Our bodies are called temples because it is a place where the Spirit now also dwells as well. How can a man, drugs, or tyranny sit inside of us and dwell as the Spirit dwells, especially in a way that would be any different than the effects of such things on us today that would make it unique?
 
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They suffer blindness .
Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

This is NOT hard to understand.

What is hard to understand is why you take Romans 11 out of context and imply that all of the Jews are partially blinded, instead of looking at the context which shows some of the Israelites were blinded and some were not blinded. Part were blinded and part were not and accepted the Messiah, just like Paul in Romans 11:1.

Paul starts the passage with two groups of Israelites. There were those Israelites who bowed to Baal and the 7,000 Israelites who would not. Paul said there was also a faithful remnant of Israelites during his time.

You are attempting to force the text to fit modern Dispensational Theology, which must ignore the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and found fulfilled in Hebrews 8:6-13, which is specifically applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:18-24, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8.
It is not hard to see that the doctrine brought to America by John Nelson Darby must ignore the scripture found above.


If a Jewish temple is rebuilt, it is described below.

Rev 2:9  "I know your works, tribulation, and poverty (but you are rich); and I know the blasphemy of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan. 

Rev 3:9  Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you. 

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Why would God need a temple?
He has us. He resides in us. We are the Temple of the Holy Ghost. Now that being said, the Jews will build a physical temple. God does not need that, but they think He does, so they will build it.
 
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He has us. He resides in us. We are the Temple of the Holy Ghost. Now that being said, the Jews will build a physical temple. God does not need that, but they think He does, so they will build it.
I agree.
 
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The 4th one is, Zechariah 6:12-13.


The old Temple buildings were actual temples because it was the place where the Spirit of God dwelled. Our bodies are called temples because it is a place where the Spirit now also dwells as well. How can a man, drugs, or tyranny sit inside of us and dwell as the Spirit dwells, especially in a way that would be any different than the effects of such things on us today that would make it unique?

Not sure what your point is with the branch building the temple... yes Jesus built the temple: the body of Christians. Maybe you mean the body of Christians are the 'real 3rd temple' and the 4th is a physical temple?

The drugs for sorcery are hallucinogens, making people think that the 'antichrist' is god - that happens ... inside people's bodies.

Just like God controls everything, the antichrist will want to control everything about people's lives/ bodies, which, by most people's opinion I would wager, would describe a tyranny.
 
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What is hard to understand is why you take Romans 11 out of context and imply that all of the Jews are partially blinded, instead of looking at the context which shows some of the Israelites were blinded and some were not blinded. Part were blinded and part were not and accepted the Messiah, just like Paul in Romans 11:1.

I did not take it out of context.I can agree with you that aqll of the Jews are not blind. But, understand what I am saying BA. The ones who do not and will not accept Lord Jesus are the ones who will build the physical temple.
You are attempting to force the text to fit modern Dispensational Theology, which must ignore the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and found fulfilled in Hebrews 8:6-13, which is specifically applied to the Church in Hebrews 12:18-24, and 2 Corinthians 3:6-8.

I am not doing no such thing. I cannot help it if you can't see it.
 
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Not sure what your point is with the branch building the temple... yes Jesus built the temple: the body of Christians. Maybe you mean the body of Christians are the 'real 3rd temple' and the 4th is a physical temple?

The drugs for sorcery are hallucinogens, making people think that the 'antichrist' is god - that happens ... inside people's bodies.

Just like God controls everything, the antichrist will want to control everything about people's lives/ bodies, which, by most people's opinion I would wager, would describe a tyranny.

Christians aren't a 3rd anything. They are something else other than the coming 3rd temple. If one were to look at how Paul references the word 'temple', in one place, he's talking about a physical one in Thessalonians, where people try to smash the coming beast into the spirit of people. The other two deal with the Christians. We are told our individual bodies are temples (as the Spirit resides within us), and the Church as a whole is also called a temple (as we are a singular corporate body with the Spirit residing within us).
 
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Ezekiel's Temple

There is a strong consensus among adherents of dispensational OT prophetic futurism that the temple and associated rituals described in Ezekiel 40-47, including animal sacrifices, will be physically reestablished during an earthly millennium.

It would not be the first time that such has been attempted. Historical descriptions of the outcome of the most notable endeavor, under Roman emperor Julian, can be found here.

Other historical attempts had outcomes which, while not as dramatic, were no less convincing in their failure.

It is difficult to conceive of a prospect more odious than that of reinstituted animal sacrifices. God never took pleasure in these (Ps. 40:6; 51:16; Heb. 10:6), and the consummating blood offering of the Lamb of God irrevocably extinguished the ancient sacrificial fires forever.

Ezekiel's temple will never be physically rebuilt, for under the everlasting New Covenant, "...the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands..."
 
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"Behold, your house is left unto you desolate" (Luke 13:35, Matthew 23:38).

That's what Jesus had to say about the temple of Jerusalem. It doesn't get much clearer than that. There won't be a Third Temple ! You're absolutely right. Jesus resurrected was the Third Temple !
 
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It would not be the first time that such has been attempted. Historical descriptions of the outcome of the most notable endeavor, under Roman emperor Julian, can be found here.

What a sight it will be to tune into CNN or FOX or NBC for live coverage of the 21st century groundbreaking for construction of the "3rd temple" and watch flames shooting out of the ground as they thrust in the first shovel...

The Mosaic System was a TEMPORARY system that was removed forever in AD70, and as mentioned above, God has taken steps multiple times since the to ensure it NEVER returns to earth. I'm supremely confident He continue to take those steps as many times as necessary.

It's called the "Everlasting" Gospel for a reason...
 
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However, the Jews do not accept God's Son, Jesus Christ, as their Messiah. They WILL build a third temple. They Will return to animal sacrifices because they DO NOT accept the Blood of Jesus

Those Pharisees will surely kill Jesus again if He returns because He prevented people donation of animal and crop and money into their pocket. Thats why Jesus can never be accepted by the Torah Pharisees Rabbi
 
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