Jimmy D

Well-Known Member
Dec 11, 2014
5,147
5,995
✟268,799.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
  • Haha
Reactions: JD16
Upvote 0

I'm_Sorry

Taking a break from CF
Site Supporter
Oct 18, 2016
1,749
1,170
Australia
✟131,197.00
Country
Australia
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Widowed
C'mon Bungle Bear, your ignorance is showing..... they were all friendly vegetarians before the fall.

Oh no, Koala is vegetarian still :p
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Jimmy D
Upvote 0

Kylie

Defeater of Illogic
Nov 23, 2013
14,674
5,236
✟301,850.00
Country
Australia
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
Good morning from Australia,

Look what was over my back fence this morning.


No, Natural Selection did not bring them into being.

God did, The Bible states this in Genesis.

Can you not see His wonderful loving work?

Discuss.

No, God did not bring them into being.

Evolution by means of natural selection did, and the evidence for this is in their genes, which fit perfectly into the nested hierarchy that evolution predicts.

Can you not see the traces of evolution?

Discuss.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: JD16 and tyke
Upvote 0

Kylie

Defeater of Illogic
Nov 23, 2013
14,674
5,236
✟301,850.00
Country
Australia
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
My guess is that He spoke the kangaroo into existence.

And they hopped all the way from the middle east to Australia to live in our country, ignoring all the other equally suitable countries that they could have gone to.

And they left behind no trace of those that died on the way. Well, hey, they have those pouches, I guess they used them for kangaroo carcass transport!
 
Upvote 0

AV1611VET

SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2006
3,851,060
51,500
Guam
✟4,907,561.00
Country
United States
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Why is it that all the examples in these argument from incredulity type claims are always cute and cuddly? Always "look at this lovely butterfly, look at this adorable quoka", never "look at this mighty plague bacillus, look at this awesome goblin shark". Just once I'd like to see someone make this argument for some organism you don't find in children's colouring books.
You mean like here?
Like ... say ... a severe bone defect from God in the form of a judgmental plague?

Deuteronomy 28:59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.

Read Psalm 38 slowly and visualize what King David is going through.

Especially ...

Psalm 38:3 There is no soundness in my flesh because of thine anger; neither is there any rest in my bones because of my sin.

Psalm 38:6 I am troubled; I am bowed down greatly; I go mourning all the day long.
Or here?
Yes and no.

God told His people that He would put "wonderful plagues" on them if they disobeyed.

Deuteronomy 28:59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.

I submit these plagues were some kind of bone-altering diseases that affected how the person looked; and if dug up today, would be mistaken for Neanderthals & Cro-Magnons.

King David died of such a disease (Psalm 38).
Or here?
The Neanderthals were people who were punished by God with a specific bone-altering "wonderful disease."

Deuteronomy 28:59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.

David probably died of such a disease (see Psalm 38).

If you have Neanderthal DNA, it can probably be traced back to someone who was so judged.

In my opinion.
Or here?
What about them?

I can't speak for Malaria or 'every disease in the world,' but I also believe cancer, along with AIDS, is one of God's ...

Deuteronomy 28:59 Then the LORD will make thy plagues wonderful, and the plagues of thy seed, even great plagues, and of long continuance, and sore sicknesses, and of long continuance.No.The same thing we're all judged for ... our sins.Death.

James 1:15b ... and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.I'm not exempt.

I'm going to die of the "ultimate disease" too.

And when the time comes, it will be cancer, AIDS, an accident, whatever ... compliments of a sin-cursed universe.I believe I already addressed that.

I'll die of a disease that was initially meant for those engaging in inappropriate behavior with animals and homosexuality.God sent it, then He gave us doctors to observe it.
 
Upvote 0

I'm_Sorry

Taking a break from CF
Site Supporter
Oct 18, 2016
1,749
1,170
Australia
✟131,197.00
Country
Australia
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Widowed
And they hopped all the way from the middle east to Australia to live in our country, ignoring all the other equally suitable countries that they could have gone to.

And they left behind no trace of those that died on the way. Well, hey, they have those pouches, I guess they used them for kangaroo carcass transport!

What did the continents look like (formation) when Kangaroo's first appeared?

(To the christian, before then after the flood)
 
Last edited:
Upvote 0

I'm_Sorry

Taking a break from CF
Site Supporter
Oct 18, 2016
1,749
1,170
Australia
✟131,197.00
Country
Australia
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Widowed
No, God did not bring them into being.

Evolution by means of natural selection did, and the evidence for this is in their genes, which fit perfectly into the nested hierarchy that evolution predicts.

Can you not see the traces of evolution?

Discuss.

Does this explain how inorganic matter magically became life?

And DNA just went "poof" and said here is the information required to form life.

I'm still waiting for a replication of this theory in a lab.
 
Upvote 0

AV1611VET

SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2006
3,851,060
51,500
Guam
✟4,907,561.00
Country
United States
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
And they hopped all the way from the middle east to Australia to live in our country, ignoring all the other equally suitable countries that they could have gone to.
Either that, or they were teleported (raptured) there as they stepped off the Ark, since God wanted them there.

Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Acts 8:40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.
 
  • Haha
Reactions: JD16
Upvote 0

I'm_Sorry

Taking a break from CF
Site Supporter
Oct 18, 2016
1,749
1,170
Australia
✟131,197.00
Country
Australia
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Widowed
Either that, or they were teleported (raptured) there as they stepped off the Ark, since God wanted them there.

Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Acts 8:40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.

And also hid them for a time like this.
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

essentialsaltes

Stranger in a Strange Land
Oct 17, 2011
33,160
36,483
Los Angeles Area
✟827,898.00
Country
United States
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Legal Union (Other)
.

Unless science theory supports the chronology of Genesis, science has it wrong.

What is 'the' chronology of Genesis? It contains no dates, and Christian estimates for the age of the universe range from 6000 years to 15000000000 years.
 
  • Like
Reactions: tyke
Upvote 0

I'm_Sorry

Taking a break from CF
Site Supporter
Oct 18, 2016
1,749
1,170
Australia
✟131,197.00
Country
Australia
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Widowed
What is 'the' chronology of Genesis? It contains no dates, and Christian estimates for the age of the universe range from 6000 years to 15000000000 years.

Those time periods rest on geology and cosmology, they're wrong. Especially if you cant leave earth because its God's prison for the wicked.
 
Upvote 0

Nithavela

our world is happy and mundane
Apr 14, 2007
28,116
19,555
Comb. Pizza Hut and Taco Bell/Jamaica Avenue.
✟492,780.00
Country
Germany
Faith
Other Religion
Marital Status
Single
Those time periods rest on geology and cosmology, they're wrong. Especially if you cant leave earth because its God's prison for the wicked.
Genesis has two chronologies. It can't even agree with itself.
 
  • Agree
Reactions: JD16
Upvote 0

xianghua

Well-Known Member
Feb 14, 2017
5,215
554
43
tel aviv
✟111,545.00
Faith
Judaism
Marital Status
Single
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums

essentialsaltes

Stranger in a Strange Land
Oct 17, 2011
33,160
36,483
Los Angeles Area
✟827,898.00
Country
United States
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Legal Union (Other)
Those time periods rest on geology and cosmology, they're wrong. Especially if you cant leave earth because its God's prison for the wicked.

What is 'the' chronology of Genesis?
 
  • Like
Reactions: tyke
Upvote 0

AV1611VET

SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE
Site Supporter
Jun 18, 2006
3,851,060
51,500
Guam
✟4,907,561.00
Country
United States
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
So, God created a kangaroo in your backyard?

Pity you didn't start recording earlier. A visual record of a divine creation act would have been awesome!
How would that have convinced you?
 
Upvote 0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums