Yeshua/Jesus Rose on the Sixth Day of the Week

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Have you considered the words of Nehemiah concerning sunset and the Sabbath?

"And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath: and some of my servants set I at the gates, that there should no burden be brought in on the sabbath day."
-Nehemiah 13:19

Note carefully how it began to be dark before the Sabbath (i.e. it was already sunset), Nehemiah was preparing a day ahead for the Sabbath: this proves that even Nehemiah understood that Moses stated to us that the day began in the morning (see also Genesis 1:1 cf. Exodus 16:22-27).

That's not what it says, it says when the 'Gates of Jerusalem began to be dark'

As the sun moves around and starts to go lower in the sky things that were in the sunlight will fall into the dark--------shadows....... sun is still up though and Shabbat hasn't begun.

What he basically was saying was when the sun was going down he commanded that the gates be shut. Today we light the Shabbat candles 18 minutes before sundown so we don't end up lighting a fire afterwards. On Cloudy days this could happen or if you aren't paying attention because even on a very sunny day once the sun is down the sky is still lit up.

Since they were rebuilding at that time I would look into what gates were repaired and then you can see the direction that the sun would fall on them. :)
 
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Why should we believ all of the astronomical/science sites who say that it occured on March 20th, 2016 when they have no physical evidence to show for it?
How do they come up with such precise times to the minute if they have no evidence?

That is the beauty with the heavenly lights of YHWH: our observations must match up with our calculations. If this does not happen then it stands that our math is off and not the movements of the heavenly bodies: therefore our base knowledge is faulty.
I agree, but if our observational technique is faulty, our results will be faulty.

He says in one of his videos that he has it situated with true north as opposed to magnetic north which, would throw off his alignment: this then would be apparent in the shadows on the sundial.
How does one set a sundial to true north with absolute perfect accuracy?

After I saw his video all of the information came alive which I posted on my blog entry with the eight calendar files.
I have been tracking the moon phases sincecharting their sightings in the DSS and they have been lining up to the day. I plan on capturing the full moon on the 22nd Day of the 12th Month on the 1st Day of the Week: which is March 12th, 2017 on Sunday.
In short testing the calendars of man against the Calendar of YHWH will show who is right and who is wrong: I have been seeing YHWH proven to be right and man wrong since having this information opened up to me.
What is the URL for your blog and what day do you anticipate the vernal equinox will fall on this year?

Also, if the year is precisely 364 days, why bother finding the eguinox at all? If YHWH told Adam when that first solar year ended (supposedly 364 days after the 4th day of creation), then every ensuing year must end 364 days later regardless of when the equinox falls. Did Adam or even Noah use sundials? It seems to me that a true observable calendar is one where you look up and see the signs of a new day, month and year.
 
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Have you considered the words of Nehemiah concerning sunset and the Sabbath?

"And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath: and some of my servants set I at the gates, that there should no burden be brought in on the sabbath day."
-Nehemiah 13:19

Note carefully how it began to be dark before the Sabbath (i.e. it was already sunset), Nehemiah was preparing a day ahead for the Sabbath: this proves that even Nehemiah understood that Moses stated to us that the day began in the morning (see also Genesis 1:1 cf. Exodus 16:22-27).
A look into the Hebrew will help you to understand what is being said. Compare צָּלַל (tsalal) used in Nehemiah 13:19 with חשֶּׁ ך (ḥoshek). The latter refers to darkness without light. Consider the following verses.

Genesis 1:2 – “And the earth was waste and void; and darkness (ḥoshek) was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of Elohim moved upon the face of the waters.”7

Joshua 2:5 – “and it came to pass about the time of the shutting of the gate, when it was dark (ḥoshek) that the men went out; whither the men went I know not: pursue after them quickly; for ye will overtake them.”

Job 12:25 – “They grope in the dark (ḥoshek) without light; And he maketh them to stagger like a drunken man.”

Job 18:6 – “The light shall be dark in his tent, And his lamp above him shall be put out.”

The verses above refer to a different kind of darkness than Nehemiah 13:19. Genesis 1:2 establishes the true meaning in that it was darkness that existed before light was created.

Notice Joshua 2:5 in which the gates were shut when it was dark (without light). This, no doubt, refers to shutting the gates at night whereas Nehemiah 13:19 refers to shutting the gates near sundown.

Another use of tsalal is found in Ezekiel 31:3.

Ezekiel 31:3 – “Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a forest-like shade (tsalal), and of high stature; and its top was among the thick boughs.”

Here, tsalal refers to shade or shadows accompanied by light rather than total darkness. The light is what caused the shadows to fall on the gates.
 
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That is easy:

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
-Genesis 1:1

We see here that God was not only concerned with heavenly things but, with earthly things as well. His Law and Order was established in the heavens first then the earth last. God made man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. God told Adam to not eat of the forbidden fruit or else he would die: we see he hat the first death was spiritual and the last death was earthly. When God wanted man to be fruitful and multiply He was concerned first with godly offspring and with physical offspring last. Let us not also forget that we were taught to pray that God's Will be done on earth as it is in heaven. God's Word was given to Moses on stone which came from the heavens to the earth. The list is endless sister.
All are flesh before HIM

And some are born and are spiritual

GOD is making the distinction now, marking those who belong to HIM now

Just as HE did in the first Passover
 
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Depends which Sabbath day you are talking about. And read Nehemiah 13:19 where the day begins in the morning.
I'm talking about the one GOD called the sabbath

The day always begins in the morning and comes after the evening

And the day, according to GOD is from sunup to sundown

Yet to us, a day is a 24 hour period whereas CHRIST said are there it 12 hours in a day? Walk while you have the light, lest darkness come and you be overcome
 
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That is easy:

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."
-Genesis 1:1

We see here that God was not only concerned with heavenly things but, with earthly things as well. His Law and Order was established in the heavens first then the earth last. God made man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life. God told Adam to not eat of the forbidden fruit or else he would die: we see he hat the first death was spiritual and the last death was earthly. When God wanted man to be fruitful and multiply He was concerned first with godly offspring and with physical offspring last. Let us not also forget that we were taught to pray that God's Will be done on earth as it is in heaven. God's Word was given to Moses on stone which came from the heavens to the earth. The list is endless sister.
Moses was a shadow of the ONE who would come and take what was given to us outwardly on stone tablets and move it inwardly upon the fleshly tablets of our hearts

Remember the glory of that covenant, though glorious, though Moses had to shield his face, was fleeting

Not so the GLORY of THE EVERLASTING COVENANT which is in CHRIST

One must be born again

Moses couldn't build the HOUSE
 
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How do they come up with such precise times to the minute if they have no evidence?


I agree, but if our observational technique is faulty, our results will be faulty.


How does one set a sundial to true north with absolute perfect accuracy?


What is the URL for your blog and what day do you anticipate the vernal equinox will fall on this year?

Also, if the year is precisely 364 days, why bother finding the eguinox at all? If YHWH told Adam when that first solar year ended (supposedly 364 days after the 4th day of creation), then every ensuing year must end 364 days later regardless of when the equinox falls. Did Adam or even Noah use sundials? It seems to me that a true observable calendar is one where you look up and see the signs of a new day, month and year.


This is what Adam and Noah used:

14And God said: ‘Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days and years; 15and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth.’ And it was so. 16And God made the two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night; and the stars. 17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good. 19And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.
 
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I'm talking about the one GOD called the sabbath

The day always begins in the morning and comes after the evening

And the day, according to GOD is from sunup to sundown

Yet to us, a day is a 24 hour period whereas CHRIST said are there it 12 hours in a day? Walk while you have the light, lest darkness come and you be overcome

You had asked
miknik5 said:
What day is after the sabbath?

His question to you is correct.

If you are speaking of the weekly Sabbath then the day after would be the first of the week.
There are other Sabbaths, connected to the Holy days we are to keep. They fall on different days each year so the day after them would vary. :)

Can you give reference where you believe this is said?

"And the day, according to GOD is from sunup to sundown"
And this:

"Yet to us, a day is a 24 hour period whereas CHRIST said are there it 12 hours in a day? "

Yes, Messiah was correct; at the time he walked the earth there were 12 hours in a day and 12 hours in a night. These varied in how long a hour might be though depending on the time of year.
 
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You had asked
miknik5 said:
What day is after the sabbath?

His question to you is correct.

If you are speaking of the weekly Sabbath then the day after would be the first of the week.
There are other Sabbaths, connected to the Holy days we are to keep. They fall on different days each year so the day after them would vary. :)

Can you give reference where you believe this is said?

"And the day, according to GOD is from sunup to sundown"
And this:

"Yet to us, a day is a 24 hour period whereas CHRIST said are there it 12 hours in a day? "

Yes, Messiah was correct; at the time he walked the earth there were 12 hours in a day and 12 hours in a night. These varied in how long a hour might be though depending on the time of year.
What is the first day of the week?
Do you think GOD's WORD contradict HIS WORD

We don't only have it was the morning after the sabbath, we have it was the first day of the week

Mark 16:1

Evening to morning
Darkness to light
Sundown to sunup

Means this as well
Sunup to sundown
Light to darkness
Day to night
 
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What is the first day of the week?
Do you think GOD's WORD contradict HIS WORD

We don't only have it was the morning after the sabbath, we have it was the first day of the week

Mark 16:1

Evening to morning
Darkness to light
Sundown to sunup

Means this as well
Sunup to sundown
Light to darkness
Day to night
You have some God points sister for I agree that the day begins in the morning as scripture tells us that it does. It would help your arguments better if there wasn't so much emotion invested in them, it distorts what you want to get across. Consider also how God created the heavens, the earth, and time, and the waters in the light before the darkness was introduced in Genesis 1:1-2. Still you misunderstand that the timing of the Passover is distortino your view of when the first day of the week falls.
 
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And this:​

"Yet to us, a day is a 24 hour period whereas CHRIST said are there it 12 hours in a day? "

Yes, Messiah was correct; at the time he walked the earth there were 12 hours in a day and 12 hours in a night. These varied in how long a hour might be though depending on the time of year.
The problem with this argument is that the twelve hours period could not have only been corrected while Christ walked the earth: afterall He is God's Son and He fashioned all things that we see and know: therefore if this is coming out of His mouth then the time would apply from the beginning to our present time. Just because we may fail to understand what He said does not make His Words without fruit or importance.
 
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You have some God points sister for I agree that the day begins in the morning as scripture tells us that it does. It would help your arguments better if there wasn't so much emotion invested in them, it distorts what you want to get across. Consider also how God created the heavens, the earth, and time, and the waters in the light before the darkness was introduced in Genesis 1:1-2. Still you misunderstand that the timing of the Passover is distortino your view of when the first day of the week falls.

The time of the Passover was at twilight
Consider that darkness came upon the earth just as THE Passover lamb was sacrificed
 
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Moses was a shadow of the ONE who would come and take what was given to us outwardly on stone tablets and move it inwardly upon the fleshly tablets of our hearts

Remember the glory of that covenant, though glorious, though Moses had to shield his face, was fleeting

Not so the GLORY of THE EVERLASTING COVENANT which is in CHRIST

One must be born again

Moses couldn't build the HOUSE
Sigh...your question was concerning where God talked about earthly things to us throughout the Bible: I accomplished that. Did not Jesus say that if we cannot understand the earthly things He tells us about then we could not understand heavenly things from Him?
 
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I'm talking about the one GOD called the sabbath

The day always begins in the morning and comes after the evening

And the day, according to GOD is from sunup to sundown

Yet to us, a day is a 24 hour period whereas CHRIST said are there it 12 hours in a day? Walk while you have the light, lest darkness come and you be overcome
If you read what I wrote carefully I stated that the passage I cited is proof the day begins in the morning.
 
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All are flesh before HIM

And some are born and are spiritual

GOD is making the distinction now, marking those who belong to HIM now

Just as HE did in the first Passover
What are you going on about sister? Your replies are not making a lot of sense.
 
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Sigh...your question was concerning where God talked about earthly things to us throughout the Bible: I accomplished that. Did not Jesus say that if we cannot understand the earthly things He tells us about then we could not understand heavenly things from Him?
Well what you are not understanding sir is that GOD spoke through shadows and signs and lower representations ever and always pointing us to the higher invisible spiritual TRUTHS found in THE SON

GOD knows our limited humanity
All these signs and shadows were so that when the fullness of time might come ( when THE BODY prepared from before the foundations of the world might come forth) we would look back and understand that all along HE spoke of and pointed to HIS SON

THE TESTIMONY of JESUS
IS
THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY

Moses was a type but he want CHRIST

Just as Melchizadek was a shadow and type but was not CHRIST

Of whom all of Scriptures points to
 
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What are you going on about sister? Your replies are not making a lot of sense.
Ye must be born again
The first Adam (of the earth and fleshly) will remain in Adam and die in Adam
Unless they are born again of the LAST ADAM who is of HEAVEN and who gives us of HIS LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT
 
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A look into the Hebrew will help you to understand what is being said. Compare צָּלַל (tsalal) used in Nehemiah 13:19 with חשֶּׁ ך (ḥoshek). The latter refers to darkness without light. Consider the following verses.

Genesis 1:2 – “And the earth was waste and void; and darkness (ḥoshek) was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of Elohim moved upon the face of the waters.”7

Joshua 2:5 – “and it came to pass about the time of the shutting of the gate, when it was dark (ḥoshek) that the men went out; whither the men went I know not: pursue after them quickly; for ye will overtake them.”

Job 12:25 – “They grope in the dark (ḥoshek) without light; And he maketh them to stagger like a drunken man.”

Job 18:6 – “The light shall be dark in his tent, And his lamp above him shall be put out.”

The verses above refer to a different kind of darkness than Nehemiah 13:19. Genesis 1:2 establishes the true meaning in that it was darkness that existed before light was created.

Notice Joshua 2:5 in which the gates were shut when it was dark (without light). This, no doubt, refers to shutting the gates at night whereas Nehemiah 13:19 refers to shutting the gates near sundown.

Another use of tsalal is found in Ezekiel 31:3.

Ezekiel 31:3 – “Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a forest-like shade (tsalal), and of high stature; and its top was among the thick boughs.”

Here, tsalal refers to shade or shadows accompanied by light rather than total darkness. The light is what caused the shadows to fall on the gates.
I believe that we argued this same point elsewhere however, its worth answering here as well. The passage is clear that the sun was setting and not moving across the higher part of heaven. The fact that it mentions the gates becoming dark is important as it refers to to the sun setting: it does not need to be completely dark for the sun to set, and many (including myself) have witnessed the sun setting and see that it is still not completely dark: therefore the sunset argument fails.
 
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