Crucifixion of Father-God

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The Personal Assault On God


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Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.



Devils and men were curious about the presence of mankind in the devil’s prison chamber. They asked, “What is man that thou art mindful of him and the son of man that thou visitest him”. Hebrews 2:6-8. Devils were not alone in this quest for understanding. Men have also asked, “Why am I here? What am I expected to do? What shall become of me”? What men and devils did not know is that IGNORANCE is part of the BLIND TEST that Father PLANNED for our “exercise”, Ecclesiastes 1:13. Romans 8:18-23. The goal for man is to learn as much about the answers as he can while he exists in flesh and blood. Imprisoned devils are the obstacles in the test course to make this achievement very difficult to attain. Therefore human beings are in a fantastic wrestling match with invisible, convict devils, (Ephesians 6:12). Devils possess, exploit, and control men as much as possible. But God did not leave men totally defenseless. Angels above are assigned to reach and teach men to fight back against the demonic “tools” that cover them like a blanket, Revelation 12:1-4, Habakkuk 1:4, Matthew 12:43-45, Jude 1:6, 12-16.


God kept things SECRET from men and devils. What devils knew as angels in Heaven before they fell was deficient. They did not have all the answers they needed before conspiring against God and His First Family. They rebelled against God’s RULE and decided to do as they pleased. This attitude caused so much friction that it became a WAR. Devils lost the fight. They were judged, convicted, and tossed into God’s dungeon until their stay of execution expires. At that point God will destroy them permanently by special fire.


Devils were unaware that Father created their parents, Lucifer and Babylon, as special “tools” for His assize, an educational training regimen for His own children. Devils will force men to show the Scientist and Teacher the strengths and weaknesses of His “CREATED PRODUCTS”, the children. Down in the pit of hell, this activity by demons against man is called the “MARRING OF CLAY VESSELS”. In the vernacular religionists anywhere, it is called “SIN”. So ACTS OF SIN and MARRING are one and the same thing. Down in hell the children individually are given a specific number of days to face-off with the prisoners in the pit. When their given term expires, men die (they are “circumcised”) and their bodies become dust again. They seem to disappear like grass! It is flourishing one day, and the next day it is cut down and dries up or is burned by fire.


This situation was very curious to demons. They met Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden and from those two men multiplied and now cover the livable surfaces of the planet Earth. Every now and then God communicates with man and gives commands to men, which devils are quick to make them flunk and disobey. He also sends wise men and prophets to instruct men and lead them into paths of righteousness and obedience. Devils are quick to dispatch these messengers though persecution, abuse, and death. However there is a “problem” with God’s messages. They seem to be in “code language” (parables and metaphors), and it is difficult to determine what God is saying. Some of the messages are addressed to devils by name, and some are written to men. So devils decided to remedy this issue by killing the messengers, burning and hiding their Words from mankind. They slandered the writers of God’s words to make men doubt them and installed their own “clerics” to manage who reads the messages and interprets them. Devils do not want anyone to get a whiff of what God is saying, because they know it is bad news for them. Managing the clergy became a top priority for the powers of darkness to STOP GOD in whatever He is attempting to do in these “messages”. Wherever the WORD OF GOD is, there is WAR OVER ITS CONTENT and MEANING. DEMONS make sure there is a fight over it.


As you know, our Father KEEPS SECRETS. He will not REVEAL THEM until He is ready. There are SECRETS about the Powers of Darkness, why they were created and for what purpose. I would imagine newly born devils wondered why they have to cling in nakedness to the bodies of men and animals to avoid falling through solid matter. Yet animals and men do not have the “falling problem”! Flesh-forms can walk of the land surface, run and play on it, live in shelters on it from the harsh elements, and reproduce their own kind without the problems demons have. Furthermore devils see men and the animals happily enjoying the food substances the earth provides and they have water to quench their thirst. This does not seem fair to them. Therefore they resent the status of men and animals. Envy and jealousy of the blessings enjoyed by those wearing flesh and blood sometimes causes devils to WAR against both men and animals. Their situation is very desperate, because devils need flesh and blood as resources to remedy their culpability of falling.


The MAJOR PROBLEM IS GOD, and his “SECRETIVE” nature. Another problem is GOD IS IMMORTAL, and He might take centuries to tell a story. “TIME” is nothing to Him! And if you are finite, you do not have centuries of time to piece together a message. What if He takes 600 years to scatter all the WORD-PUZZLE pieces in scripture form on Earth?! He might take 1000 years to deliver all the parts to it. Man is seemingly worse off than demons in this regard. Men are given an average lifespan of “three score and ten years” (70 yrs.) down here. On the ETERNAL SCALE, that is mere “seconds”! So how can man put together all the pieces of God’s WORD-PUZZLE and figure out what He is saying? Let’s take a closer look at this picture! God put SEALS on His Word and dispensed it to writers in remote generations and various languages. Also He gave each writer designated “pieces” of the WORD-PUZZLE “.messages”. In effect, He scrambled significant pieces of the hidden narrative. He made certain that He AND ONLY HE can sort and find the PUZZLE PIECES and LINK THEM TOGETHER for a cogent picture of what He wants us to see. The MASTER of the WORD of GOD is GOD ALONE. Man cannot touch it, read it, nor SEE and understand what Father has hidden within it, Revelation 5:1-5, Isaiah 28:9-13, 29:10-14.


The ARROGANCE of MEN is astonishing! Men think they can go to Bible schools and pay for Doctor of Divinity Degrees at man’s colleges and become certified as “ministers” over the Word. That makes them feel confident enough to claim authority over TRUTH. But I tell you nothing that men do, no matter what they say, can DEFEAT GOD’S SEALS and OPEN THE SCRIPTURES TO THEM so they are “masters” over the Word of God. You see, people, “the scriptures cannot be broken” and GOD’S SEALS remain intact until and unless He DIVULGES THE MEANING OF HIS MESSAGE. He does not reveal himself to “any Tom, Dick or Harry”, who has a strong desire to figure out what He is saying. YOU CANNOT GO TO SCHOOL and “pay for” a degree in LIGHT. YOU CANNOT OBTAIN IT in man-made churches and denominations. God picks and chooses His own students Himself! You cannot pray yourself into becoming one of His “special students”. The selection is strictly at Father’s own will and discretion. “Fake preachers” will be exposed by the light Father wields, II Corinthians 11:13-15. The difference between light and darkness will be clear and distinct, so clear that “the wayfaring man, even if he is a fool, he cannot err in it”, Isaiah 35:8. YOU CANNOT CHOOSE GOD! He has to choose you!


Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.


John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


Ode of Solomon 23:5 And His thought was like a letter; His will descended from on high, and it was sent like an arrow which is violently from the bow: 6 And many hands rushed to the letter to seize it and to take and read it: 7 And it escaped their fingers and they were affrighted at it and at the seal that was upon it. 8 Because it was not permitted to them to loose its seal: for the power that was over the seal was greater than they. 9 But those who saw it went after the letter that they might know where it would alight, and who should read it and who should hear it. 10 But a wheel received it and came over it: 11 And there was with it a sign of the Kingdom and of the Government: 12 And everything which tried to move the wheel it mowed and cut down: 13 And it gathered the multitude of adversaries, and bridged the rivers and crossed over and rooted up many forests and made a broad path. 14 The head went down to the feet for down to the feet ran the wheel, and that which was a sign upon it. 15 The letter was one of command, for there were included in it all districts;


Father Himself teaches His select students as a shepherd feeding His flock.


Isaiah 40:11 He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young.


Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


2 Corinthians 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.


Psalms 50:16 But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth? 17 Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee. 18 When thou sawest a thief, then thou consentedst with him, and hast been partaker with adulterers. 19 Thou givest thy mouth to evil, and thy tongue frameth deceit. 20 Thou sittest and speakest against thy brother; thou slanderest thine own mother's son. 21 These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes.


One mystery hidden from men and devils is HOW GOD CREATED HIS FAMILY AND DELIVERED THEM ALL IN ONE DAY. That is NOT A MYSTERY anymore! In the “GOOD NEWS” Father has revealed how and why He created THE FAMILY. Mother Zion was His first creation and She became Mother of all the LIVING. She was impregnated with the “Holy Seed” and built all the infant spirits inside Her belly attached by umbilical cords. Father molded and stamped a replica of His face and Mother’s face on these children. Each infant was given a unique name and number by which he will be identified and differentiated from all the others. When Mother had finished “building us”, Father gave birth to all of us at once on the Great 4th Creation Day. He called the infant children, “My STARS”! 12 pairs were brought to maturity and shown to Mother Wisdom. They became God’s First Family. All the others became Mother’s “birth-water” which God stored in what is now the “nursery chamber of stars”.


The children are IMMORTAL. We are TINY PIECES of GOD AND WISDOM formed with a head, torso, two arms with hands and two legs with feet. We each have Father’s and Mother’s spirit-DNA heritage making us “just like them with their nature, built-in”! What Father built-in us and SEALED in us cannot be undone by anything.


How do you teach and test each child to determine his strengths and weaknesses? God is the First Scientist and He created an assize to test each creation-product in TWO STEPS, II Esdras 7:1-15. The “test tools” confined in the bottomless pit will blow demonic fire on each product, and any and all strengths will be ascertained and all weaknesses discovered. That is what this joust in the pit of hell with devils is designed to do. God did not make this known to men and devils openly at first. Because He held this information close to the vest and hid it from devils and men, many faulty and wrong conclusions about why we are here and what God expects from us abound. Because He kept it hidden, men and devils came to very wrong and bizarre conclusions about why men are here. Life down here with demons is STEP-ONE for man. The Scientist must test each created product individually against the fire of the NEGATIVE TOOLS. So HE DWELLS IN EACH SPIRIT CELL giving a portion of (life) his sensory perception, and conscious-awareness to it. He moves about in each child giving each man the experience of locomotion. We call this power to walk, run, jump and use our hands. At all times it is Father in us showing us what to do with our members. Each human incarnation is a “cell” or container of Father’s living substance. He calls us His children. Stuffing spirits of men in clay containers on Earth makes us “human beings”. God is light and we are children of light. This is not apparent to men, nor to devils. God is invisible to men and devils. Surgery on human bodies reveal no bright glowing light similar to the sun’s brightness anywhere in the human body. When men look into a mirror they do not see any glorious light in or on them that could blind the beholder. So it is easy to see why men do not believe that we are the offspring of the Great Glory Himself. Devils have convinced men that they are next to God in glory and men are a step below them. They do not die when men die, but men seem to disappear and rot into nothingness. Devils fall out of men at death, but they are then free to catch a ride on any flesh body close by. No man is known to return from death, so death seems to be a permanent END for God’s children. It was easy for demons to deceive men using all the various schemes taught in man’s churches in every nation.


In the “GOOD NEWS” Father has revealed what happens to men in death. Men lose their raiment of skin in “circumcision”, and their spirits are drawn to Paradise which is Father’s “delivery room”. Jesus calls the TRUE NAMES of all who seem to die! Men are “born again” glowing with the brightness of their “LIGHT TURNED ON”. There they are transformed into glorious angels and complete their PERFECTION the HIGH SCHOOLS of Archangels. Men trained as theologians by men on Earth do not know these things, because the WORD is SEALED from them. But in the “GOOD NEWS” Father is pleased to show them to you now!


Since Father is living the life each human claims as his own, any attack on any man is a personal attack on Father-God. Father has taken a constant and non-stop beating from devils from the day He placed man on planet Earth. We groan when we think of Jesus hanging on the cross from the 6th to the 9th hour. Father God is still being pummeled about. It has never stopped! .He reserves the right to apply “self-defense” on behalf of His Body Cells stuck in clay molds on earth, Enoch 68:2-5, Isaiah 14:12, 21-22. “Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord! I will repay”! Deuteronomy 32:43, Romans 12:19. In every nation and culture on earth, SELF–DEFENSE can be justifiably applied against an assailant especially if one’s life is threatened. Devils have never stopped pounding on God because they have never quit punching and punishing His Body Cells housed in flesh and blood. When God removes the last generation of men from planet Earth, He will execute devils swiftly and decisively!


Isaiah 24:17 Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth. 18 And it shall come to pass, that he who fleeth from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake. 19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly. 20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again. 21 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth. 22 And they shall be gathered together, as prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.


Revelation 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.


Enoch 68:2 And on that day Michael answered Raphael and said: 'The power of the spirit transports and makes me to tremble because of the severity of the judgement of the secrets, the judgement of the angels: who can endure the severe judgement which has been executed, and before 3 which they melt away? 'And Michael answered again, and said to Raphael: 'Who is he whose heart is not softened concerning it, and whose reins are not troubled by this word of judgement 4 (that) has gone forth upon them because of those who have thus led them out? 'And it came to pass when he stood before the Lord of Spirits, Michael said thus to Raphael: 'I will not take their part under the eye of the Lord; for the Lord of Spirits has been angry with them because they do 5 as if they were the Lord. Therefore all that is hidden shall come upon them for ever and ever; for neither angel nor man shall have his portion (in it), but alone they have received their judgement for ever and ever.'
 
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For all that ref. to verses, it is NOT right nor true to speak of CRUCIFIXION OF FATHER-GOD. It is denial of the Trinity. See all scriptural references to God --- the Father sending His beloved Son: the Lord Jesus, the Christ of God, into this world. Jesus was God manifested in the flesh, and THE HOLY SPIRIT came after His departure. We need to see that God is triune ---Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Jesus was both Son of God and Son of man, and when He died it was not God who died ---just His beloved Son, man's only Savior and hope. Note John 1; John 3; John 14 for some help!

Much of the rest of that post sounds quite strange!
 
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OK, 1watchman, how do you factor in the following scriptures in your thinking!

John 17:20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me. 4 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Apparently you need to convince Father-God that He CANNOT DIVIDE HIMSELF INTO BILLIONS of tiny cells and call them, "My children"! I have nine children and all of them have part of my body and DNA heritage. But according to your nebulous understanding, God can only divide Himself into 3 parts. The scriptures I present show that you need to revisit your studies on WHO and WHAT is God!
 
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I can see you are having difficulty understanding the Trinity. We are found in Christ in a spiritual way, not in actual body parts or organically --DNA. God's Spirit dwells in every true "born again" believer. Do you have that new spiritual birth through Jesus Christ? A real Christian lives by the Holy Spirit, though yet here in a physical body ---a body that still has the old nature of what God calls "flesh". That is elementary. I recommend a prayerful study of John 1; John 3; John 14 for some help, friend.
It appears you are also reading some religious writings not of the Bible, which may be part of your difficulty in understanding what God is saying to man.
 
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There has to be a warning about considering some of the things that I see in the OP. It comes from 1 Timothy 1:4: "Don't let them waste their time in endless discussion of myths and spiritual pedigrees. These things only lead to meaningless speculations, which don't help people live a life of faith in God."

Now, I am not decrying the posts and discussions on the different forums of CF. There are all sorts of questions asked and a wide range of interesting topics discussed. That is why I love this forum and find it so interesting. Also, it gives many believers a great outlet for expressing views, opinions, revelations, encouragements where there is no other opportunity. Also, even though the discussions with opposing views can get quite heated at times, it is still healthy and fair debate. It makes us think deeply about what we believe. It would be a very boring forum if we all agree with each other. Although I don't agree with everything people say, I respect them and their view of the things of God. I enjoy the debates, and I think that at the end of the day we can agree to disagree and still love one another in Christ.

But when someone posts something that seems to go into unusual or strange interpretations, we must look at these things in terms of Timothy 1:4. The question is: does the opinion point a reader toward greater faith in Christ? Does it give a reader another insight into a passage or topic in the Bible? Does it provide an opportunity of edification and fellowship? Or does it depress, condemn, accuse or confuse? It is up to the reader to make the evaluation and respond accordingly (without getting personal of course!).
 
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