Hello you really didnt answer my question.
In regards to Luke 22.70-71 - all Jews claim God as their earthly Father - creator. Why would the Pharisees get upset if Jesus was merely referring to God as His earthly Father - creator?
Jesus pbuh was working on the sabbath, showing the same purpose as GOD. They took this to mean Jesus pbuh was placing himself on par with GOD.
Mat 21:46 They looked for a way to arrest him, but they were afraid of the crowd because the people held that he was a prophet.
The crowd was 100% correct.
In regards to Jesus' divinity please consider mat 22:43-46
Mat 22:43-46
He said to them, “How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him ‘Lord’? For he says,
44 “‘The Lord said to my Lord:
“Sit at my right hand
until I put your enemies
under your feet.”’[e]
45 If then David calls him ‘Lord,’ how can he be his son?” 46 No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions
Jesus pbuh is not from the seed of David pbuh. He might be affirming he's the expected Priestly Messiah. Not sure, but what we do know is Matthew liked telling stories that were not Historically true, and nor did this Gospel writer ever meet Jesus pbuh in person.
The Pharisees feared the ppl - who were distracted by the passover - and arrested Him at night and held a secret sanhedrin. It was Jesus last remark that He claimed to be the divine Son of God that really cemented it. They wanted to kill Him, now they had a reason.
He claimed to have authority from GOD. They rejected him just as they rejected many before him. It was nothing personal, he threatened their comfortable lives.
Like the Pharisees, islam rejects His claim of divinity - He is the eternal divine Son of God. In the trinity He is God the Son.
GOD tells us plainly in the Qur'an the Christians have seriously erred, and Jesus pbuh was a mighty Prophet, no different to any of the Prophets before or after him.
Luke 7:48
Then Jesus said to her, "Your sins are forgiven."
Only God can forgive sins. Please comment?
Jesus pbuh said, as he heard he judged. His judgement was not his own. Any forgiveness was granted by permission of GOD alone.
You cannot pick and choose certain scripture to prove your point. The Bible has been intergal to Christianity for 100s of years. You cant prove Islam through Christian verses.
Actually Christians say you have to prove what ever points you want to make by using the Bible as a benchmark, not Muslims. For us the Qur'an is enough.
You seem to accept some verses of the Bible but you seem ignore many others. This is not consistant. You cannot chop and choose parts you like to prove your position.
Unitarians and JW's also use the same Bible, but come to different conclusions.
The Bible was formulated as the Word of God to inspire, maintain and guide Christian faith. To be used to strengthen the case that Jesus is the Son of God, who died on the cross for atonement, was ressurected and ascended to heaven.
Would you learn economics from a chemistry book?
Fair enough. Muslims don't regard the whole Bible as the unchanged word given to Jesus pbuh.
Im not sure either as this is not my area of expertise. I only know that Jesus is the Son of God and thats all I need to know.
Hello forgive me, as a Christian I do not accept the quran or haddiths as authority. I do not mean to offend you.
No problem, we hold the same position towards the Bible.
Matthew 7:15
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves
In reference perhaps to a ravenous Benjamite wolf of a Pharisee that had crept into the early Church. The false Prophet Prophet mentioned in Revelation 2:2
Luke 10:19
I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you.
Untested claims. Christians shy away when offered poison and reminded of these verses, as they don't want to 'tempt God'.
Christ can heal mental issues and misuse of drugs. Your statement seems more scientifically minded than spiritualy led.
What does listening to the Qur'an to heal spiritual issues of the mind have to do with Science?
What you have described is not similar to Christian healing or casting out of demons. There seems to be limitations with the method in islam.
The limitation is only on the part of the one doing the healing, those who lack real faith will have limited success. Indeed a pious person with complete trust in GOD can heal themselves.
In a
genuine case of spiritual possession, I can guarantee the the Muslim Raqi (healer) would have the ability to prove the Christian method of deliverance or exorcism has failed to remove the issue.
You seem to ignore the second time He prays
My Father, if it is not possible for this cup to be taken away unless I drink it, may your will be done
Jesus acknowledges that He must die on the cross to save mankind.
Once you are resurrected, can you physically die again? Can you feel any more pain, unless you are cast into hell? Where does Jesus pbuh say he has come to die on the cross for mankind? I believe you are quoting the words of John who was presenting Jesus pbuh as the sacrificial 'Lamb of GOD.' No other Gospel writer makes any such claim, and yet it is central to Christian Doctrine.
Either he taught everyone the same message, or else people are making things up to suit their personal beliefs.
John was at the foot of the cross because John was told to care of Jesus' mother - behold thy son behold thy mother.
The Bible does not say what day he died, only the day of His resurrection. Tradition says Friday - Im not catholic.
John was there on the wrong day. No earthquakes or zombies on the day of preparation. The Synoptics say the actual crucifixion happened on the day of the Sabbath. They also said ALL his Disciples fled.
Are these men an authority to you?
Each writer of the gospels chooses the details which is important from his view point. We can put them together like a jigsaw.
The fact that each gospel does this shows that there is no collusion - secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy in order to deceive others.
They have studied Christianity for many years each. Licona is a practising Christian whereas Ehrman lost his faith after studying the earliest Greek Manuscripts. Yes to make sense of the 4 Gospels, you have to smash them together. Had they not been so widely in circulation, I'm sure the Church would have created 4-6 Gospels from scratch that perfectly told the story of Jesus as the only Begotten Son of GOD, as it was, they couldn't do that, so with editing here and there, they did the best they could. The Bible was banned from the public for 1,000 years precisely because they knew of the problems within it. The first man to translate it into English didn't fare very well.
Are you suggesting that the writers of the gospels who pre-date islam by 500 yrs are lying?
None of them met Jesus pbuh. It has nothing to do with Islam. Matthew, Luke and John all used Mark as a template, and just added to the account to promote their own beliefs. Christians don't lose their faith because they've read the Qur'an, they lose it because the Bible has many issues within it, and the concept of God doesn't make sense either.
Here is my take on zacharys angel. Dreams and visions from God always harmonise with the Christian scriptures. If he saw Christians burning in hell, they cannot have been true christians.
Now questions arise. How did he know they were christians?
The man suggests he is in mecca, he is with many muslims. There are some jews and some christians with him. A mirror appears and he sees christians burning in hell.
Wouldnt a mirror reflect?
Was the man looking at his own relection and those around him. It seems to me yes.
At the start they think they are saved however when the mirror appears it shows the true reality of the situation. They are the ones in hell.
This is a warning to this man. Tell this man as he needs to know.
Why not comment to Zachary yourself under the YT video. I'm sure the lack of beards, uncovered hair and European skin tones would have factored in determining if the image was a reflection or not.
I can interpret my dream for you. I figured it out within hours
I was going to place wer there is no God. At the last moment i cried to Jesus and Jesus saved me. The 3 but 1 is the trinity - which I saw as I have no benefit or gain in lying to you. The flame is the Holy Spirit which i recieved.
This vision happened to me. I have no reason to lie to you. You can have more, seek the Truth, the Light and the Way.
As I said, it's all subjective and open to interpretation. What sort of time in the day do you have these dreams?
If islam is the final revelation of Judaism and Christianity, and Jesus is a prophet to you. The only document of Jesus' words and doctrine are in the Gospels.
The Gospel of Jesus pbuh is found in the Qur'an.
Are you under the authority of the Books of Mark, John, Luke and Matthew? Under the Law of Grace?
none of the above
Or are you under the Law of Moses?
I'm under the Covenant promised to Ishmael pbuh:
Genesis 17:20
And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a
Great Nation.
Isaiah 42 mentions it clearly...
Behold my
servant, whom I uphold;
mine elect, in whom my soul
delighteth; I have put
my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth
judgment to the Gentiles.
2
He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
3
A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
4
He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
6 “I, the Lord, was right to call you.
I will hold your hand and protect you.
You will be the sign of my agreement with the people.
You will be a light for the other nations.
7
You will make the blind able to see.
You will free those who are held as captives.
You will lead those who live in darkness out of their prison.
8 “I am Yahweh.
That is my name.
I will not give my glory to another.
I will not let statues take the praise that should be mine.
9 In the past, I told you what would happen,
and it happened!
Now I am telling you something new,
and I am telling you now, before it happens.”
10
Sing a new song to the Lord;
praise him everywhere on earth—
all you who sail on the seas,
everything in the sea,
and all you people in faraway places!
11
Deserts and cities, villages of Kedar,
praise the Lord!
People living in Sela, sing for joy!
Sing from the top of your mountain.
12 Give glory to the Lord.
Praise him, all you people in faraway lands!
13 The Lord will go out like a strong soldier.
Like a man going into battle, he will be full of excitement.
He will shout with a loud cry,
and he will defeat his enemies.
One only has to read the Biography of Muhammad pbuh to see this Chapter of Isaiah fits him like a glove
