Has anyone noticed the Torah Has a Solar Calendar?

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With the heavy polemical language in Jubilees and 1 Enoch in not observing a solar calendar of 364 Days and on not observing the moon as a basis for YHWH's Calendar, I wondered what the Tanakh had to say about their claims and, if they supported them at all. I found that it indeed does and will leave links concerning my proofs. Otherwise please feel free to ask questions and I will answer them to the best of my ability:

Proof of 364 Day Solar Calendar In The Bible (without Quoting 1 Enoch or Jubilees)

False Solar, Lunar, Astral, and Agricultural Calendars
Enoch, Priestly Order, New Moon, Full Moon, and Gregorian Calendars Synched
In The Beginning: Order or Chaos?
 
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Okay, to start some discussion please consider Ezekiel 46:1-3 where God tells Ezekiel that the gates of the temple will be shut on the evening of the 7th Day and closed for six working days (i.e. 1st-6th Day): the fact that the doors will not be closed until the evening proves that they are opened in the morning and that God began the day in the morning. For those who would like to cite Genesis 1:1-31 with the evening and morning X Day formula, please ask yourselves: before God created the light and the darkness (see Isaiah 45:7), did He work in the Day (Light) or the Night (Darkness)?
 
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Okay, to start some discussion please consider Ezekiel 46:1-3 where God tells Ezekiel that the gates of the temple will be shut on the evening of the 7th Day and closed for six working days (i.e. 1st-6th Day): the fact that the doors will not be closed until the evening proves that they are opened in the morning and that God began the day in the morning.
I disagree. If they were closed when the 7th day ended (at sundown), then they were opened when the 7th day started (at sundown). If you start the count of work days from the morning, then you have six daylight portions and if the 7th day ends in the evening, then what do you do with that evening? It is not part of the 7th day or of the six working days. If you start the 7th day in the morning instead of at sundown the previous evening, then where does that evening belong? It is not part of the 7th day or the 6th work day.

For those who would like to cite Genesis 1:1-31 with the evening and morning X Day formula, please ask yourselves: before God created the light and the darkness (see Isaiah 45:7), did He work in the Day (Light) or the Night (Darkness)?
He worked in darkness.
 
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I disagree. If they were closed when the 7th day ended (at sundown), then they were opened when the 7th day started (at sundown). If you start the count of work days from the morning, then you have six daylight portions and if the 7th day ends in the evening, then what do you do with that evening? It is not part of the 7th day or of the six working days. If you start the 7th day in the morning instead of at sundown the previous evening, then where does that evening belong? It is not part of the 7th day or the 6th work day.


He worked in darkness.
Now you blaspheme and make God and Jesus contrdict themselves as they tell us to walk in the light as They are in the Light. Also if God called the Light good and separated it from the Darkness which is evil: then by default you are saying that God is evil and has no light in Him?
 
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"And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath: and some of my servants set I at the gates, that there should no burden be brought in on the sabbath day."
-Nehemiah 13:19

Observe carefully how Nehemiah states that as it began to be dark (i.e. it was sunset) that the Sabbath had not yet begun: this proves that from Adam to Nehemiah the Israelites understood what Moses wrote in the Torah about the day beginning in the morning and, not the evening: from sunrise to sunrise and, not sunset to sunset. From the context above we may also glean that Nehemiah only closed the gates very early in order to ensure that no one would be tempted among the Jews to profane the Sabbath through buying or selling with the merchants, whom he chased off during the Sabbath.
 
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Consider this passage talking about a supposed new moon sabbath correlation:

"Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat,
making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit? That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes; yea, and sell the refuse of the wheat?"

-Amos 8:5-6

Notice that the new moon is singular and connected to the sabbath: there is nowhere in scripture that the holydays of YHWH are governed by new moons. This is no surprise as the word translated 'new moon' is HaCHoDeSH literally: the Month. Now the only month which has the beginning of it as a Sabbath is the 7th Month (Leviticus 23:24). Furthermore there are no commands in the Torah to observe the Sabbath at every new moon.

"Thus saith the Lord God; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened. And the prince shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate without, and shall stand by the post of the gate, and the priests shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, and he shall worship at the threshold of the gate: then he shall go forth; but the gate shall not be shut until the evening. Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this gate before the Lord in the sabbaths and in the new moons."
-Ezekiel 46:1-3

Notice how God is telling Ezekiel that the gate will not be closed until the evening and that in six working the days (i.e. 1st Day to the 6th Day) the gate will be shut: this means that God is directly telling us that the day begins in the morning. And if you look at the false translation of 'new moon(s)' you will see in the Hebrew HaCHoDeSH(IM) literally the month(s) the Hebrew word for moon is YeReaCH. It is only the tradition of the Rabbi's which tell us that CHoDeSH is moon: Yeshua says not trangress the traditions of YHWH with the traditions from man. Let us remember the warnings of Jeremiah to be wary of the vain and lying pen of the scribes.
 
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Now you blaspheme and make God and Jesus contrdict themselves as they tell us to walk in the light as They are in the Light. Also if God called the Light good and separated it from the Darkness which is evil: then by default you are saying that God is evil and has no light in Him?
I blaspheme because I said He worked in darkness??? Grow up bro. When was the actual heavens, earth and water made? Before He said, "Let there be light", or after? BEFORE, when only darkness existed.
 
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"And it came to pass, that when the gates of Jerusalem began to be dark before the sabbath, I commanded that the gates should be shut, and charged that they should not be opened till after the sabbath: and some of my servants set I at the gates, that there should no burden be brought in on the sabbath day."
-Nehemiah 13:19

Observe carefully how Nehemiah states that as it began to be dark (i.e. it was sunset) that the Sabbath had not yet begun: this proves that from Adam to Nehemiah the Israelites understood what Moses wrote in the Torah about the day beginning in the morning and, not the evening: from sunrise to sunrise and, not sunset to sunset. From the context above we may also glean that Nehemiah only closed the gates very early in order to ensure that no one would be tempted among the Jews to profane the Sabbath through buying or selling with the merchants, whom he chased off during the Sabbath.
Actually, this passage teaches the exact opposite. The gates were closed before sunset to ensure that no one would transgress the Sabbath that was about to begin at sundown. That is when all 24 hour days begin just as is the case with Yom Kippurim (Leviticus 23:32).
 
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Consider this passage talking about a supposed new moon sabbath correlation:

"Saying, When will the new moon be gone, that we may sell corn? and the sabbath, that we may set forth wheat,
making the ephah small, and the shekel great, and falsifying the balances by deceit? That we may buy the poor for silver, and the needy for a pair of shoes; yea, and sell the refuse of the wheat?"

-Amos 8:5-6

Notice that the new moon is singular and connected to the sabbath: there is nowhere in scripture that the holydays of YHWH are governed by new moons. This is no surprise as the word translated 'new moon' is HaCHoDeSH literally: the Month. Now the only month which has the beginning of it as a Sabbath is the 7th Month (Leviticus 23:24). Furthermore there are no commands in the Torah to observe the Sabbath at every new moon.
Why are you treating me like a lunar Sabbath keeper? I do not keep Sabbaths by the moon.



"Thus saith the Lord God; The gate of the inner court that looketh toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the sabbath it shall be opened, and in the day of the new moon it shall be opened. And the prince shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate without, and shall stand by the post of the gate, and the priests shall prepare his burnt offering and his peace offerings, and he shall worship at the threshold of the gate: then he shall go forth; but the gate shall not be shut until the evening. Likewise the people of the land shall worship at the door of this gate before the Lord in the sabbaths and in the new moons."
-Ezekiel 46:1-3

Notice how God is telling Ezekiel that the gate will not be closed until the evening and that in six working the days (i.e. 1st Day to the 6th Day) the gate will be shut: this means that God is directly telling us that the day begins in the morning. And if you look at the false translation of 'new moon(s)' you will see in the Hebrew HaCHoDeSH(IM) literally the month(s) the Hebrew word for moon is YeReaCH. It is only the tradition of the Rabbi's which tell us that CHoDeSH is moon: Yeshua says not trangress the traditions of YHWH with the traditions from man. Let us remember the warnings of Jeremiah to be wary of the vain and lying pen of the scribes.

I guess you did not see my post in the other thread when you wrote this. You can read post #26 here as it addresses chodesh and new moons.
 
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Actually, this passage teaches the exact opposite. The gates were closed before sunset to ensure that no one would transgress the Sabbath that was about to begin at sundown. That is when all 24 hour days begin just as is the case with Yom Kippurim (Leviticus 23:32).
Sorry but, began to be dark is different from it was drawing towards evening so it was sunset already. Also you misapply inductive reasoning with Passover and Day of Atonement. They are the only two holydays to be observed at sunset: therefore this does not negate when the day starts. And if you look at the context of Genesis 1:1-5 you will see that the first things God made were the heaven and the earth and time. In the beginning signifies that before time was created only eternity existed. So we have time, space (heaven), and matter (earth) as the first three creations. Otherwise if we read vv. 2-3 it will sound like that the earth, the darkness, and the waters were pretty existent with God: which we know is not true as God made all things and nothing existed before He did. I know blasphemy sounds like such an ancient word in our modern times but, you did blaspheme in stating that God worked in the Darkness and not the light after He tells us to not work or walk in the darkness. Anyways I have proven that God is Light and therefore worked in the Light and not the darkness. Genesis 1 is a tricky passage to read when it is so familiar to us that, we fail to recognize the little things implied in such a short chapter. Note that the calling out of the earth and the gathering of the waters only discuss there names and not their creation. On day one then we may conclude that heaven, earth, waters, light, and darkness were all created in the same day.
 
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Why are you treating me like a lunar Sabbath keeper? I do not keep Sabbaths by the moon.





I guess you did not see my post in the other thread when you wrote this. You can read post #26 here as it addresses chodesh and new moons.
I read it and it does not take into account that you are following the traditions of men and not the traditions of God. Prove where there are Sabbaths connected a new moon observance?
Also if you are observing the barley then you are following another man made tradition as there is no command to check the barley: this only backs up that the calendar begins in the spring and not the fall. You also fail to recognize that the heavenly lights are used to determine the signs, seasons, days, and years not the plant life (Genesis 1:14-19).
 
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Sorry but, began to be dark is different from it was drawing towards evening so it was sunset already.
A look into the Hebrew will help you to understand what is being said. Compare צָּלַל (tsalal) used in Nehemiah 13:19 with חשֶּׁ ך (ḥoshek). The latter refers to darkness without light. Consider the following verses.

Genesis 1:2 (ASV) – “And the earth was waste and void; and darkness (ḥoshek) was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of Elohim moved upon the face of the waters.”7

Joshua 2:5 (ASV) – “and it came to pass about the time of the shutting of the gate, when it was dark (ḥoshek) that the men went out; whither the men went I know not: pursue after them quickly; for ye will overtake them.”

Job 12:25 (ASV) – “They grope in the dark (ḥoshek) without light; And he maketh them to stagger like a drunken man.”

Job 18:6 (ASV) – “The light shall be dark in his tent, And his lamp above him shall be put out.”

The verses above refer to a different kind of darkness than Nehemiah 13:19. Genesis 1:2 establishes the true meaning in that it was darkness that existed before light was created.

Notice Joshua 2:5 in which the gates were shut when it was dark (without light). This, no doubt, refers to shutting the gates at night whereas Nehemiah 13:19 refers to shutting the gates at sundown when twilight was about to begin. As soon as the shadows were gone, that was Nehemiah’s signal to close the gates. Shadows disappear the moment the sun sets. Nehemiah closed the gates the moment the Sabbath began.

Another use of tsalal is found in Ezekiel 31:3.

Ezekiel 31:3 (ASV) – “Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a forest-like shade (tsalal), and of high stature; and its top was among the thick boughs.”

Here, tsalal refers to shade or shadows accompanied by light rather than total darkness.

Also you misapply inductive reasoning with Passover and Day of Atonement. They are the only two holydays to be observed at sunset: therefore this does not negate when the day starts. And if you look at the context of Genesis 1:1-5 you will see that the first things God made were the heaven and the earth and time. In the beginning signifies that before time was created only eternity existed. So we have time, space (heaven), and matter (earth) as the first three creations. Otherwise if we read vv. 2-3 it will sound like that the earth, the darkness, and the waters were pretty existent with God: which we know is not true as God made all things and nothing existed before He did.
Everything from verses 1-5 was created on day 1. You want to believe light was created first, but Scripture shows the heavens, earth and water were created before light. Therefore, Elohim created those things while it was dark.

I know blasphemy sounds like such an ancient word in our modern times but, you did blaspheme in stating that God worked in the Darkness and not the light after He tells us to not work or walk in the darkness.
YHWH can work whenever He wants. He can work Himself or He can command others to work in darkness. Did not He, Gideon and the Israelites work at night to defeat the Midianites? YHWH delivered them into Gideon's hands that night. Do not the watchmen work at night guarding the walls and city of Jerusalem? Do not confuse working at night with working in spiritual darkness.
 
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I read it and it does not take into account that you are following the traditions of men and not the traditions of God. Prove where there are Sabbaths connected a new moon observance?
I just told you I am NOT a lunar Sabbath keeper. How can I prove something I don't believe? Yom Teruah is the only Sabbath that always falls on a new moon. The rest can fall on a new moon every now and then.

Also if you are observing the barley then you are following another man made tradition as there is no command to check the barley: this only backs up that the calendar begins in the spring and not the fall.
I didn't say I observe the barley. I said barley had to be available for the wave offering on Abib 16. If no barley was available, the offering could not be made and a leap month was added.

You also fail to recognize that the heavenly lights are used to determine the signs, seasons, days, and years not the plant life (Genesis 1:14-19).
Genesis 1:14 And Elohim said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for moedim (appointed times/feasts), and for days, and years:

The moon plays an important part in setting YHWH's feasts as well as in determining days and years. The moon is a sign in the sky that a new month has begun as well as a new year when it works in conjunction with the sun and stars. Yet, the calendar you espouse totally disregards the moon in determining when the feasts are. YHWH says, for example, to keep Yom Kippur on the tenth day of the 7th month, but He also says the 7th month begins on the "moon of Ethanim" (1 Kings 8:2). Yet, you would have us keep it on the 10th day of a month that is not tied into a moon, but into a random day that occurs 183 days after the start of the solar year.
 
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Genesis 1:14 And Elohim said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for moedim (appointed times/feasts), and for days, and years:

The moon plays an important part in setting YHWH's feasts as well as in determining days and years. The moon is a sign in the sky that a new month has begun as well as a new year when it works in conjunction with the sun and stars. Yet, the calendar you espouse totally disregards the moon in determining when the feasts are. YHWH says, for example, to keep Yom Kippur on the tenth day of the 7th month, but He also says the 7th month begins on the "moon of Ethanim" (1 Kings 8:2). Yet, you would have us keep it on the 10th day of a month that is not tied into a moon, but into a random day that occurs 183 days after the start of the solar year.
You keep saying that you're not a lunar observer but, keep insisting on the months being determined by the sighting of the new moon. The writers at Qumran began the 1st, 4th, and and 7th years of the Shemitah with a full moon as the well understood that the moon's is greater than that of the stars but, less than that of the sun. If the year begins in the conjunction (dark moon) then how will anyone know the year if they happen to see a black moon for two days? Not to mention God creating two great lights in the sky only for one of them to be completely void of light would be laughable. While the moon would be lesser light in any of its phases we see by observation that when the moon is full then, it becomes clear that it is the lesser light in terms of its illumination. I don't need to argue this furtheras I have the calendars available on my blog for everyone to download and check my work which has the sightings of the full and new moons: I've been tracking them and have other brethren helping me and, the moon sightings are matching up perfectly. Please note that the spring would begin in March and not April as Enoch tells us that the equinox falls on the 31st Day of the 6th and 12th Months which occured on September 20th and March 22nd 2016. For confirmation of this please visit our brother Jerry Morris' YouTube channel JerryMorris where he has a sundial lined up with polaris confirming these sightings under his equinox videos.
 
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A look into the Hebrew will help you to understand what is being said. Compare צָּלַל (tsalal) used in Nehemiah 13:19 with חשֶּׁ ך (ḥoshek). The latter refers to darkness without light. Consider the following verses.

Genesis 1:2 (ASV) – “And the earth was waste and void; and darkness (ḥoshek) was upon the face of the deep: and the Spirit of Elohim moved upon the face of the waters.”7

Joshua 2:5 (ASV) – “and it came to pass about the time of the shutting of the gate, when it was dark (ḥoshek) that the men went out; whither the men went I know not: pursue after them quickly; for ye will overtake them.”

Job 12:25 (ASV) – “They grope in the dark (ḥoshek) without light; And he maketh them to stagger like a drunken man.”

Job 18:6 (ASV) – “The light shall be dark in his tent, And his lamp above him shall be put out.”

The verses above refer to a different kind of darkness than Nehemiah 13:19. Genesis 1:2 establishes the true meaning in that it was darkness that existed before light was created.

Notice Joshua 2:5 in which the gates were shut when it was dark (without light). This, no doubt, refers to shutting the gates at night whereas Nehemiah 13:19 refers to shutting the gates at sundown when twilight was about to begin. As soon as the shadows were gone, that was Nehemiah’s signal to close the gates. Shadows disappear the moment the sun sets. Nehemiah closed the gates the moment the Sabbath began.

Another use of tsalal is found in Ezekiel 31:3.

Ezekiel 31:3 (ASV) – “Behold, the Assyrian was a cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a forest-like shade (tsalal), and of high stature; and its top was among the thick boughs.”

Here, tsalal refers to shade or shadows accompanied by light rather than total darkness.


Everything from verses 1-5 was created on day 1. You want to believe light was created first, but Scripture shows the heavens, earth and water were created before light. Therefore, Elohim created those things while it was dark.


YHWH can work whenever He wants. He can work Himself or He can command others to work in darkness. Did not He, Gideon and the Israelites work at night to defeat the Midianites? YHWH delivered them into Gideon's hands that night. Do not the watchmen work at night guarding the walls and city of Jerusalem? Do not confuse working at night with working in spiritual darkness.

No, God did not work in the dark as He is the light and as the light in Himself. So though He called the light after creating the darkness: He from the beginning was not working in darkness:

God (Light) > Darkness (Night) > Light (Day)

We see a beautiful and consistent and orderly pattern showing the alternation between light and darkness. God made the darkness before the light in order to show that outside of Him is nothing but darkness and, that it is through His power that Light comes to save mankind from the darkness. We see then that before the darkness was created the heavens, the earth, and the sea were in the light of God but, later became empty and void and fell into darkness; once God calls the light and the earth from under the waters we see the earth bearing fruit and having animals and man live on it in harmony. This is very strong imagery to which John 1:1-5 is reiterating: the Light which God called from the darkness is the same Light which became flesh and dwelt among us: that is Jesus.
As for the battles fought in the evening notice that the men did not fight it in complete darkness as they had physical (fire) and spiritual light (God) guiding them: so they were not in the dark on either level. Notice also how the Egyptians are plagued with absolute darkness while the Israelites are not: the same physical and spiritual darkness is apparent here as well; and, when the Israelites had no physical light of their own: it was God who acted as the pillar of fire (physical) by night. If heaven is spiritual and earth is physical: then God made this very clear when He made Adam (man) in the Image of God, Wisdom, and Jesus: a clear example of the God's will in heaven being done on earth: this is why Jubilees uses the phrase heavenly tablets so much and emphasizes all of the Mosaic observances were done in heaven first before being manifested on earth to Moses.
 
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Actually, this passage teaches the exact opposite. The gates were closed before sunset to ensure that no one would transgress the Sabbath that was about to begin at sundown. That is when all 24 hour days begin just as is the case with Yom Kippurim (Leviticus 23:32).
Sundown = Sunset and many people falsely believe that is when the day begins yet, Nehemiah made it clear that it does not.
 
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Remember that in order for our calendar to be lunar based (no matter what variant we use) the argument is dependent on the day beginning in the evening. For those who wish to remain in darkness please answer Genesis 1:1:

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth."

We see here that God made three things at the start of the day:

1) Time (in the beginning)
2) Space (the heavens)
3) Matter (the earth)

For those who disagree will have a tough time explaining how the earth, waters, and darkness pre existed with God: our traditional belief dictates that the only creation on Day 1 was the Light; Day 2 the Heavens; and Day 3 the earth: if this is so, then why does Moses say that God created 1), 2), and 3) above "In the beginning [...]"? And for those who believe that God is light and nothing pre existed with Him I ask: did not God in the beginning as He dictated to Moses that He created everything in His Light? Therefore God from the beginning began everything in the Day which is the Light which is the morning: and therefore God's Calendar is solar and not lunar based.
 
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