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Hi! Is this the right place to introduce myself?

I'm not sure I'd consider myself a prepper, but... Well, I think maybe I sort of am. Culturally. Not that anyone in my family would consider themselves preppers.

I should explain. Um... I live in an area where at least half of us are off-grid, the rest of us don't have mains for at least something, an ever-increasing percentage of us own generators (it's currently around 30%, but we're expecting a boom in generator-ownership over the next few months), where everyone has a vegetable garden, chickens, and probably some sort of larger creature, where the government runs ads on television telling us to "be prepared when disaster comes again", and where community groups meet monthly at generator-equipped town halls to discuss the state of community preparedness, share ideas, and get the local council and government in on it all...

Here's the situation. Three times in the last as many months, the area has gone long periods (two days to a week each time) without electricity. That's not just "no electricity" like the city people laugh about when they hear it, but it's no running water and no functioning sewage system as well. After twelve hours, it's also no telecommunications. Hence the sudden surge in generator-ownership, because about 40% of the community is now like, "We're own our own, we have to fend for ourselves, no-one is going to help next time this happens."

There's a bit of a storm expected today and you should see the paranoia on the local social media...

All this is on top of a culture that already has "bushfire readiness" ingrained so deeply into it that every schoolchild knows where the local community hub is and fully expects every summer to see their house burnt down. Although that could just be the over-sensitive ones like me. Thirty-seven years ago, the local area was razed to the ground. When the government wants us to listen, they play footage of that on the television: Bushfires will happen again - Hills

So, well... I'm not convinced about the need to prep for the end-of-the-world disaster thing, but we've got highly likely, smaller-scale disasters here we prep for, so I'm interested in seeing some of the ideas people come up with. I already saw those large water bag things someone mentioned on another thread... We already have a couple of drums of accessible water but discovered that that will get us through a day or two, not a week, and we need more. Tanks don't have taps on them here, which surprised everyone, so water in the tank became useless very quickly.

And I suppose my main problem at the moment is that I'm moving away for uni, so I'm worried about how my disabled mother might cope in a blackout or especially bushfire if there's no-one in the house... My father had gone away one a business trip last time, so there's the possibility of her being several days alone in the house... Although the community preparedness group has given us strict words about checking on "at risk and alone neighbours" in such a situation, so I'm hopeful one of the neighbours would be around to look in.

Anyway, I've already talked to much. And got off-topic and ranted a couple of times. I only just realised there's a prepper section here on CF, and to be honest, until the last month I wouldn't even have considered myself remotely a prepper, but I look forward to seeing some of the things you do.
 
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Hi! Is this the right place to introduce myself?

I'm not sure I'd consider myself a prepper, but... Well, I think maybe I sort of am. Culturally. Not that anyone in my family would consider themselves preppers.

I should explain. Um... I live in an area where at least half of us are off-grid, the rest of us don't have mains for at least something, an ever-increasing percentage of us own generators (it's currently around 30%, but we're expecting a boom in generator-ownership over the next few months), where everyone has a vegetable garden, chickens, and probably some sort of larger creature, where the government runs ads on television telling us to "be prepared when disaster comes again", and where community groups meet monthly at generator-equipped town halls to discuss the state of community preparedness, share ideas, and get the local council and government in on it all...

Here's the situation. Three times in the last as many months, the area has gone long periods (two days to a week each time) without electricity. That's not just "no electricity" like the city people laugh about when they hear it, but it's no running water and no functioning sewage system as well. After twelve hours, it's also no telecommunications. Hence the sudden surge in generator-ownership, because about 40% of the community is now like, "We're own our own, we have to fend for ourselves, no-one is going to help next time this happens."

There's a bit of a storm expected today and you should see the paranoia on the local social media...

All this is on top of a culture that already has "bushfire readiness" ingrained so deeply into it that every schoolchild knows where the local community hub is and fully expects every summer to see their house burnt down. Although that could just be the over-sensitive ones like me. Thirty-seven years ago, the local area was razed to the ground. When the government wants us to listen, they play footage of that on the television: Bushfires will happen again - Hills

So, well... I'm not convinced about the need to prep for the end-of-the-world disaster thing, but we've got highly likely, smaller-scale disasters here we prep for, so I'm interested in seeing some of the ideas people come up with. I already saw those large water bag things someone mentioned on another thread... We already have a couple of drums of accessible water but discovered that that will get us through a day or two, not a week, and we need more. Tanks don't have taps on them here, which surprised everyone, so water in the tank became useless very quickly.

And I suppose my main problem at the moment is that I'm moving away for uni, so I'm worried about how my disabled mother might cope in a blackout or especially bushfire if there's no-one in the house... My father had gone away one a business trip last time, so there's the possibility of her being several days alone in the house... Although the community preparedness group has given us strict words about checking on "at risk and alone neighbours" in such a situation, so I'm hopeful one of the neighbours would be around to look in.

Anyway, I've already talked to much. And got off-topic and ranted a couple of times. I only just realised there's a prepper section here on CF, and to be honest, until the last month I wouldn't even have considered myself remotely a prepper, but I look forward to seeing some of the things you do.

Visit these sites

Steven Harris Website
Survival Podcast

Harris and Spirko are excellent resources~preppers but not the "nuclear war bunker freaks" sort of guys...
 
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I saw this on facebook and thought it was a good idea:

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The wife is buying a container of "crystallized bleach" and/or "bleach tablets.
We are compiling a list of thing we cannot make, grow, collect/derive from nature.
Vanilla
Coffee...
...Vinegar...

Just throwing out there that if you can grow apples it's my impression that you can make vinegar. As for the coffee, although it grows best between the 30th parallels it can also grow above and below. Although it will still favor a warmer climate such as California where they recently started growing both bourbon and caturra varieties, some states can definitely grow coffee, and the ones that can't you can use a small woodheated room. As for roasting, that's not very hard in the event of an EMP or your pick of worst case scenarios. Most people are surprised to find that the drying/fermenting is the most complicated part for most people.
 
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Hi! Is this the right place to introduce myself?

I'm not sure I'd consider myself a prepper, but... Well, I think maybe I sort of am. Culturally. Not that anyone in my family would consider themselves preppers.

I should explain. Um... I live in an area where at least half of us are off-grid, the rest of us don't have mains for at least something, an ever-increasing percentage of us own generators (it's currently around 30%, but we're expecting a boom in generator-ownership over the next few months), where everyone has a vegetable garden, chickens, and probably some sort of larger creature, where the government runs ads on television telling us to "be prepared when disaster comes again", and where community groups meet monthly at generator-equipped town halls to discuss the state of community preparedness, share ideas, and get the local council and government in on it all...

Here's the situation. Three times in the last as many months, the area has gone long periods (two days to a week each time) without electricity. That's not just "no electricity" like the city people laugh about when they hear it, but it's no running water and no functioning sewage system as well. After twelve hours, it's also no telecommunications. Hence the sudden surge in generator-ownership, because about 40% of the community is now like, "We're own our own, we have to fend for ourselves, no-one is going to help next time this happens."

There's a bit of a storm expected today and you should see the paranoia on the local social media...

All this is on top of a culture that already has "bushfire readiness" ingrained so deeply into it that every schoolchild knows where the local community hub is and fully expects every summer to see their house burnt down. Although that could just be the over-sensitive ones like me. Thirty-seven years ago, the local area was razed to the ground. When the government wants us to listen, they play footage of that on the television: Bushfires will happen again - Hills

So, well... I'm not convinced about the need to prep for the end-of-the-world disaster thing, but we've got highly likely, smaller-scale disasters here we prep for, so I'm interested in seeing some of the ideas people come up with. I already saw those large water bag things someone mentioned on another thread... We already have a couple of drums of accessible water but discovered that that will get us through a day or two, not a week, and we need more. Tanks don't have taps on them here, which surprised everyone, so water in the tank became useless very quickly.

And I suppose my main problem at the moment is that I'm moving away for uni, so I'm worried about how my disabled mother might cope in a blackout or especially bushfire if there's no-one in the house... My father had gone away one a business trip last time, so there's the possibility of her being several days alone in the house... Although the community preparedness group has given us strict words about checking on "at risk and alone neighbours" in such a situation, so I'm hopeful one of the neighbours would be around to look in.

Anyway, I've already talked to much. And got off-topic and ranted a couple of times. I only just realised there's a prepper section here on CF, and to be honest, until the last month I wouldn't even have considered myself remotely a prepper, but I look forward to seeing some of the things you do.

Great to have your here!
Most people are living in a Government/Church bubble. They have no idea that we need to look after ourselves, as the people in New Orleans Hurricane Katrina, they found they where alone with no help for weeks. The bible tells us to be prepared, by being prepared we can help our families and friends, God does not expect us to just sit there by faith and wait for a miracle, He expects us to walk by faith and trust Him and be prepared! Even God said if you don't work you don't eat, we need to fill our barns with His blessings, but keep our eyes on Him and not fear anything that may happen.

There are many good sites out there on the web with information about what and how to prepare, there are extremists everywhere, but having a balance is the main thing.
As a Christian I prepare for the end-times, but I live for the now. Balance is the key with lots of prayer.
Bless you Sister...
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Have purchased most of my books from www.Amazon.com but have found that www.bookdepository.com is cheaper.
Example: our new pressure cooking recipes where 15.00 us with 12.00 us postage= 34.00au
but from England from the book depository the same book was 23.00au delivered...

You can't get everything from them but close enough...

(for our Au friends)
 
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picked up 25 square plastic tubs with lids for preps. I love our 44gal drums but can't move them when they are full. The tubs are $9.50 each with lids but we can store and move preps as needed.
peopleinplastic.com.au/

Ordered a 9lt pressure cooker and a book on pressure cooking recipes.
www.bookdepository.com
www.ebay.com.au/p/pressure-cooker-dessini-9-liter-commercial-grade-stainless-steel-presto-cookware/1891408360?iid=180685763678

picking up 20lt's of smokeless lamp oil this week in Brissy. Even the cheap lamps burn well with it as it is mostly alcohol not an oil as such so no soot.
 
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This is a casual fellowship thread to post stuff that maybe isn't thread worthy but still could be useful, or for general just "get to know" each other sorts of things. Pretty much anything goes within boundaries of CF rules but not for arguing and discontent....we're all in this bunker together so we "must needs" get along ;)

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Great thread, I can add a bit of free "goods" to the bunker in the form of free Christian literature and study institutions, yes free!

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Just throwing out there that if you can grow apples it's my impression that you can make vinegar. As for the coffee, although it grows best between the 30th parallels it can also grow above and below. Although it will still favor a warmer climate such as California where they recently started growing both bourbon and caturra varieties, some states can definitely grow coffee, and the ones that can't you can use a small woodheated room. As for roasting, that's not very hard in the event of an EMP or your pick of worst case scenarios. Most people are surprised to find that the drying/fermenting is the most complicated part for most people.

I have to agree with the vinegar thing... first time I made vinegar I was eight years old. Granted, I was trying to make kiwi and banana wine, but vinegar is quite easy to accidentally make!
 
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Buju said:
Just throwing out there that if you can grow apples it's my impression that you can make vinegar. As for the coffee, although it grows best between the 30th parallels it can also grow above and below. Although it will still favor a warmer climate such as California where they recently started growing both bourbon and caturra varieties, some states can definitely grow coffee, and the ones that can't you can use a small woodheated room. As for roasting, that's not very hard in the event of an EMP or your pick of worst case scenarios. Most people are surprised to find that the drying/fermenting is the most complicated part for most people.

Growing things with prepping is valuable, with being more sustainable, which contributes much less to problems ahead. As much as can be grown for what will be needed should be.
 
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Growing things with prepping is valuable, with being more sustainable, which contributes much less to problems ahead. As much as can be grown for what will be needed should be.
Yes, and the great thing is you can start now. There is going to be a transistional period... but you can get the jump on that by starting your gardening, solar power, dehydrating, etc now. We don't have to wait for the grocery store shelves to go empty before we start a panic garden. Panic Prepping is what happens when all these people who laugh at preppers suddenly realize that they are in big trouble. They will panic prep when their wives start screaming at them about the shelves being bare and the little ones crying becuase they are hurgery. Everybody is a prepper in the end... the difference is when you start. Do you wait till the last second and start on the day the stuff hits the fan; fighting with all the other panic preppers for that last bottle of water and smashed tomato? Or do you get smart and start now when it is so easy and is little more effort than a medium hobby.
 
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I don't know if you're still reading...but vinegar is not the only thing easy to make. rofl The first time (while in MO) I had a big garden and planting by the farmer's almanac and other ham friends etc... they had a huge laugh at me because I had accidentally made apple jack! :D
 
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In my last post here I actually composed something at length and when I clicked on reply to send it, the message was lost instead. It had not been saved first, though the Christian Forums site said the draft was saved, it wasn't. I didn't have the time left then to try to compose it again, even then not remembering all the points, so I just responded with the short statement of the main point and sent that. I was frustrated with that, and afterward couldn't think what things I had said, and just avoided this. I since always shade to copy, usually often, before sending anything here in these forums. I will still try again now to send a new message, even though I can't say the things I composed before.

Gaz54au said:
Most people are living in a Government/Church bubble. They have no idea that we need to look after ourselves, as the people in New Orleans Hurricane Katrina, they found they where alone with no help for weeks. The bible tells us to be prepared, by being prepared we can help our families and friends, God does not expect us to just sit there by faith and wait for a miracle, He expects us to walk by faith and trust Him and be prepared! Even God said if you don't work you don't eat, we need to fill our barns with His blessings, but keep our eyes on Him and not fear anything that may happen.

Indeed the Bible doesn't tell us to do nothing for us and others while waiting for God's miracles to deal with circumstances. Also we are given responsibility in regard to stewardship in our world, that we should not be neglecting in what we do, even with our choices. We are accountable. So with being prepared, to the extent that we can reasonably be, we should have the stewardship to our world not be neglected, for ourselves and others, and the world, we can live in sustainable ways as much as we might, even that can be preparation. This can be with having a more secure place than just in a city, where things can be grown for use, with others involved too if it's possible.

FredVB said:
Growing things with prepping is valuable, with being more sustainable, which contributes much less to problems ahead. As much as can be grown for what will be needed should be.

Didaskalos said:
Yes, and the great thing is you can start now. There is going to be a transistional period... but you can get the jump on that by starting your gardening, solar power, dehydrating, etc now. We don't have to wait for the grocery store shelves to go empty before we start a panic garden. Panic Prepping is what happens when all these people who laugh at preppers suddenly realize that they are in big trouble. They will panic prep when their wives start screaming at them about the shelves being bare and the little ones crying becuase they are hurgery. Everybody is a prepper in the end... the difference is when you start. Do you wait till the last second and start on the day the stuff hits the fan; fighting with all the other panic preppers for that last bottle of water and smashed tomato? Or do you get smart and start now when it is so easy and is little more effort than a medium hobby.

There is the time coming when our way of living in our civilization the way we do, which is not sustainable, cannot continue. That in itself or any other of several very possible things will disrupt the way we are living here with crises. We have some warning of this, we know there are some more sensibly sustainable ways to live in this world, and God is not promising such that we can just continue as we are and expect that God will provide a miraculous deliverance for us. Our society will reap what it sows, if we are involved, we will see problems from it before there is a prophetic time of tribulations that have judgment from God coming for the unrepentant wickedness and destructiveness of those in this world (Revelation 11:18).

There is change to this needed, and there will be time involved for it needed. There should be no waiting any more for that, if it is possible as soon as might happen there should be transition to the much more sustainable way, that takes time, with which any of us can be much more prepared, away from a city with things we need growing on the land we have for it, which takes time, with others involved for it together, if possible, Christian believers might do so together.
 
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in case you didn't know the preppers were the saviors of many many lives in venezuela. and in fact, NONE of them had prepped ENOUGH for what has come to venezuela.

pray for venezuela, try to help them. venezueala is full of the sweetest christians
 
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It's one thing to have a local natural disaster knowing there is life and water and food coming in eventually. It's another to realize that the whole region/country might be at a standstill and you don't have any food, water or medicine for longer than a few days!
 
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Who hasn't heard the (true) story of the immigrants who spoke no English, seeing "meat" on the can label thought it was for humans (not)?

However, with more and more companies looking for nutritious safe foods (read NOT from China) I supposed one could eat it in an emergency. Better than eating your dog or cat?
 
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This is a casual fellowship thread to post stuff that maybe isn't thread worthy but still could be useful, or for general just "get to know" each other sorts of things. Pretty much anything goes within boundaries of CF rules but not for arguing and discontent....we're all in this bunker together so we "must needs" get along ;)

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Nothing wrong with being prepared. But it is wise to remember what Christ said at Matthew 24:6 and Luke 21:9 that during a time of war and disorders is when he will NOT arrive.

The easy to see clue is from God by Paul at 1Thessalonians 5:1-3 that the time of the end is "during a freedom from care" (Daniel 8:25) during what will be a "world peace and security" proclamation no nation can now make as their fiscal health is poor. So, Christ arrives into a marked time of "world peace and security".

One does not need to be the prophet Daniel, or the detective Sherlock Holmes or the genius Einstein to understand that world government 8th King will complete as God states in prophecy at Revelation 17:8-18 and "world peace" will be their main branded manta--- the whole world will hear it in the future--- and that takes one more "sword stroke" "as if doomsday, but it heals instead" into world government and that takes several more years to run its course, not many, but enough. (Revelation 13:3 creates "abyss" of Revelation 17:8-13 and Revelation 11:7)

By that time many in the world can prepare for that greater event of Christ arrival to settle the sovereign score for good. (Haggai 2:7)
 
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