NO MORE PREACHING ON HELL
- Thread starter Solomons Porch
- Start date
-
- Tags
- what happened why
- Jan 12, 2014
- 7,218
- 5,563
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Non-Denom
- Marital Status
- Married
The good news is not that if you don't say a repeat after me prayer you are going to be tortured in fire for eternity... that is not good news. The good news is that a Kingdom is coming, life of offered.... and a King will reign.
Upvote
0
- Oct 10, 2011
- 23,291
- 5,252
- 45
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Non-Denom
- Marital Status
- Celibate
I listened to a pastor who preached it, and, afterward asked him some questions, and He (knew about my cigarette smoking) and told me I was under the power and influence of Satan, and that I was in danger of going to hell forever, cause of my cigarette smoking... That it was a tool of the Devil...
Needless to say, I don't talk to him, nor listen to him anymore...
God Bless!
Upvote
0
- Jan 8, 2017
- 3,664
- 5,854
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Married
Which is why today pastors, teachers etc are depending upon their flesh for a message. They have left the ANOINTING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. If they will follow HS and letting the anointing of God take over, they will not have to search for answers, because at that point the anointing of the HS is preaching and He knows the Fathers ways and wills. That anointing is what breaks the yoke of bondage. When a pastor or other is being led of the Spirit, you can feel it stirring in the depths of your being. You want have a question at the time, cause the anointing of God is in the house.
Upvote
0
Na Nach Oi!
Embracing paradoxical thinking
It could be addressed to churchian leaders/pastors too.
They corrupt the truth because of the greed of money and fame (i.e. worshipping Mammon).
Upvote
0
- Oct 10, 2011
- 23,291
- 5,252
- 45
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Non-Denom
- Marital Status
- Celibate
One has to be prepared to answer some very valid questions about God and the concept of hell, before they preach it nowadays, and many cannot, and are not prepared to... That's why I think that many aviod it...
God Bless!
Upvote
0
- Jan 8, 2017
- 3,664
- 5,854
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Married
I have come across those kinds of pastors and I do not agree with the "method" of delivering the message. I have experienced those kind. BUT just because one does it does not mean they all do this, nor should they. There is a way of delivering the truth (in love). I have came across alot of pastors that were working under the influence of a "religious spirit" and thankfully, I was saved, sanctified and filled with the Holy Ghost well enough to know and discern the spirit behind the message, so to speak. The anointing is what breaks bondage, and the anointing is love and it is powerful.
Upvote
0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
Pastor Glenn
Here to serve
- Oct 23, 2013
- 108
- 7
- Faith
- Pentecostal
- Marital Status
- Private
- Politics
- CA-Conservatives
Upvote
0
miknik5
"Let not your heart be troubled"
- Jun 9, 2016
- 15,725
- 2,805
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Married
You have to ask HIM.
And what exactly do you think would be more?
All you will come back to is what you began in is what you will end in
Faith directed in and on HIM
From Faith----->to Faith
From First------>to last
Upvote
0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
Pastor Glenn
Here to serve
- Oct 23, 2013
- 108
- 7
- Faith
- Pentecostal
- Marital Status
- Private
- Politics
- CA-Conservatives
I used to be a credentialed Pentecostal Pastor. The church that I was serving with stopped preaching the Gospel and anything to do with the person of the Holy Spirit became watered down. Things became a 3 ring circus and what amounted to a seeker friendly, lets have fun in church club. Sadly, this has become the norm for many churches. Congregations wanting to hear only "feel good sermons" by shallow people in pulpits. There has definately been a falling away and my heart breaks. I am now attending a strong, Bible believing church and involved in global online ministry.
http://www.youthpatchministries.weebly.com/
Upvote
0
- Jan 8, 2017
- 3,664
- 5,854
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Married
The gospel being deluted and the Holy Spirit being left out, grieves my spirit.
Upvote
0
miknik5
"Let not your heart be troubled"
- Jun 9, 2016
- 15,725
- 2,805
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Married
The GOOD NEWS is the GOSPEL of the UNFATHOMABLE GIFT of GOD's MERCY and GRACE and LONG SUFFERING PATIENCE upon
HIS DISOBEDIENT CHILDREN that in HIS GREAT LOVE HE provided THE ONE AND ONLY WAY back into HIS PRESENCE by through and in and THE BODY of HIS SON
THE TRUE VEIL by which all men must come to THE FATHER
HIS DISOBEDIENT CHILDREN that in HIS GREAT LOVE HE provided THE ONE AND ONLY WAY back into HIS PRESENCE by through and in and THE BODY of HIS SON
THE TRUE VEIL by which all men must come to THE FATHER
Upvote
0
This site stays free and accessible to all because of donations from people like you.
Consider making a one-time or monthly donation. We appreciate your support!
- Dan Doughty and Team Christian Forums
- Mar 2, 2016
- 3,841
- 1,907
- Country
- United States
- Faith
- Christian
- Marital Status
- Single
This is indeed a serious and widespread problem. I suspect it is mostly prevalent in countries where life can be comfortable without God. Our culture has been built up with our comfort in mind—but not for no reason. The drifting away from God that happened early last century (and earlier) in America has generally increased the spiritual discomfort and pain in people. It is so normal now that it isn't labeled as pain or discomfort. We've accepted it as normal because it is accepted as normal in our culture.
Over the years our culture has responded to this by increasing our need for pain relief, which naturally people want ASAP. The only way to get relief from this kind of pain is becoming more connected to God, however, since that doesn't work quickly enough, people have turned to everything else anyone can think of to try—which primarily is to cover the pain with pleasure and satisfying activities. i.e., everything enjoyable even if it has nothing to do with God. God is not even an appropriate mainstream media subject any more because just hinting that a person is morally accountable to someone who cannot be escaped creates such discomfort.
There are lots of exceptions, but still there is a pattern of people that have become hypersensitive to pain. We're already have a persistent baseline pain. We naturally veer off anything that causes additional discomfort. Perhaps you have noted the pattern of rising fear in the country. There's an enormous number of things people are afraid of these days (open the newspaper) instead of trusting that God is in control.
Hence the advent of too "seeker-friendly" churches. These are churches that want to comfort people, which is a good goal, actually, but they also are looking to short-term comfort rather than long-term. Generally speaking, long-term comfort comes at the expense of short-term comfort, because the rock solid source of long-term comfort is that God transforms you, often through the refiner's fire. It's why Jesus has become a good investment. We want to know going with God will produce greater comfort.
There are Christians in the world today whose lives and culture make it seem like they are already in hell and the end must be upon us all. They are a lot more satisfied with the belief that the next life will be happy than we are without being demanding for comfort in the short-term from God.
The loss of God has resulted in a loss of "community," by which I mean a connectedness to the love one should be experiencing—even from one's own family. I'm sure you've all heard of or experienced the fact that 40 years ago, everyone knew their neighbors, but now it is common to know only one or two (or no) neighbors where you live. That's what's comfortable now. People cause people pain. (This is also why IMO there is a rise in having pets, pampering services, the entertainment industry, eating food for comfort, the transformation of gyms to health clubs, and anything that makes you feel inclusiveness.) Even farther back—80 years ago, people relied on each other a lot more, too (we weren't so rich and it wasn't as long since we were a farming culture).
The result is seeker-friendly churches, not to mention companies that make an effort to be fun to work at. It's all a grasping at being a replacement for God and a family that loves and accepts you as you are.
So preaching about tithing, hell, suffering, and anything that costs you much is uncomfortable. And where there is discomfort, there will be people removing themselves from its source (hence the rise in divorce, frequency of job changes, etc.).
The solution (of course) is Jesus. Knowing you are accountable to a higher power that will judge you and knows everything you've done has a big psychological impact on society (in addition to the spiritual impact of more of the power of God and his love in one's life). Many churches have failed to accept that people will leave their church if they speak the truth, in part due to failing to recognize that it is God who draws people to Jesus, not comfy teaching. Comfy teaching draws people, but it isn't as strongly to Jesus. (Hence spiritually dead churches.) The Word of God is not a Nerf light saber, it is a sharp, dividing sword. If it is being softened, it will not be as effective in doing what it does (which is not to say there is no place for a soft sword at times).
The only solution I'm aware of is to (re)dedicating one's heart to Jesus and preaching the truth in love and leaving the consequences to God. It seems the Lord is going to have to allow horrors and catastrophes to drive us to rely on each other and for us to hear the hope held out in the Gospel. Pray that the Lord will instead grant us a revelation of his love and an increase in the supernatural spiritual gifts which can be great sources of faith and comfort.
Last edited:
Upvote
0
Similar threads
