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I double checked. The Catholic school nearby was originally run by some nuns, but now has a chaplain (campus minister), while the Baptist school has a minister associated to the school. The Evangelical school has regular chapels, but they are run by the campus ministry directors. The other Catholic School high school's principal is a nun.
Apologies for the misinformation. I had friends who went to these schools, but I must have not remembered correctly.
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I believe the leader of the high school campus ministry is the equivalent to school chaplain, especially with the Catholic schools.
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We also use the term campus ministry for the university. It is used in both college preparatory schools and universities / colleges.
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That there are Christian schools with "chaplains" as opposed to pastors on staff, or on call and/or teachers who are ordained or trained as church workers.
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What's the difference between a chaplain and a "pastor on staff"? Would the pastor not take worship services?
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The plot thickens.
We may need to investigate the precise definition of chaplain. By my training, a chaplain is a paid minister charged with helping each person maintain contact with his religious tradition as conditions of life vary. That is different from a pastor or religious worker in residence who helps everyone develop into a specific religious tradition.
We have chaplains for police, fire, military, hospitals, nursing homes, etc. All are trained and expected (I have read some of the manuals) to hold services and counsel in every tradition, even including paganism and satanism. I assume in Australia, they would be expected to counsel in the Christian traditions only. Chaplain - Wikipedia
In colleges, each denomination has a presence. Often several dozen groups are listed in a common campus guide. Here is my local university: Religious and Spiritual Organizations
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We are posting together. The difference is how many denominations he represents, and thus what level of participation he may be involved with specific to any one of them.
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I would say a chaplain is a paid minister (usually - some are unpaid, of course) who comes from, is authorised by and represents a particular faith community, but is expected to serve everyone within a particular context (eg. school, hospital, prison). Sometimes that service might be as simple as putting someone in contact with a representative of their own faith community for needs the chaplain cannot meet due to not being part of the same faith.
A chaplain will be expected to care for people from every tradition, but not to take services or attempt a scope of practice outside his or her own tradition. The idea of being required to take a service outside one's own tradition is deeply shocking to me. (I mean, you might take some sort of bland interfaith gathering carefully planned to insult nobody present, but not to actually do something belonging to another faith).
Interestingly, this presents a problem for Pagans who don't have the kind of organisations or institutional bodies to authorise people as chaplains, and who are therefore excluded from this model, not intentionally, but because we have no way to deal with religions with a very individualistic expression.
A chaplain will be expected to care for people from every tradition, but not to take services or attempt a scope of practice outside his or her own tradition. The idea of being required to take a service outside one's own tradition is deeply shocking to me. (I mean, you might take some sort of bland interfaith gathering carefully planned to insult nobody present, but not to actually do something belonging to another faith).
Interestingly, this presents a problem for Pagans who don't have the kind of organisations or institutional bodies to authorise people as chaplains, and who are therefore excluded from this model, not intentionally, but because we have no way to deal with religions with a very individualistic expression.
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Orthodox Christian chaplains don't necessarily hold services and are not necessarily ordained. Similarly, some chaplains in hospitals are not ordained and cannot administer the sacraments. Rather, they give spiritual care in whatever form is necessary.
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We are very close. For example, you could not validly perform a Catholic mass, although the two rites are almost identical. But note the first line of this (and you may want to see how our history affects the rest of the job): United States military chaplains - Wikipedia also note this is a "requirement": The Pagan's Path ~ The U.S. Army Chaplain's Manual
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I'm not understanding what you mean by a requirement. Of course a chaplain is required to care for everyone in their context. But I could not be required to conduct a Pagan ritual, nor do I see that manual as saying it would be required?
Interestingly, on military rank, in Australia chaplains in the army and air force hold rank. A chaplain in the navy does not. His/her rank is always assumed to be the same as that of the person to whom he/she is speaking. This allows a chaplain to speak to everyone from an admiral to the lowliest new recruit as an equal.
Interestingly, on military rank, in Australia chaplains in the army and air force hold rank. A chaplain in the navy does not. His/her rank is always assumed to be the same as that of the person to whom he/she is speaking. This allows a chaplain to speak to everyone from an admiral to the lowliest new recruit as an equal.
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I was unable to google a manual. It has been some years since I read it, so I could be wrong.
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This is one reason we have women chaplains in the Orthodox Church. A woman can be a "minister" or "pastor" (i.e. Chaplain) - even if they aren't ordained to be a priest. They actually are trained at seminaries for the chaplaincy, though, as women are not ordained in the Orthodox Church, they cannot administer sacraments. (I'm sure you remember some of this from our previous threads discussing chaplaincy).
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One of my friends is an Orthodox Christian military chaplain. He is not required to administer sacraments to non-Orthodox Christians. We wouldn't be able to have Orthodox Christian military chaplains if that was a requirement. (He ministers to everyone but does not provide the sacraments to everyone).
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In my experience in hospital, there is very little need for sacramental ministry anyway. Perhaps an occasional request for confession.
But we did have lay people come once a week from the Catholic and the Anglican parishes nearby to administer reserved sacrament to the patients of their traditions; do the Orthodox do that, Laura, or must the priest bring the sacrament as well?
But we did have lay people come once a week from the Catholic and the Anglican parishes nearby to administer reserved sacrament to the patients of their traditions; do the Orthodox do that, Laura, or must the priest bring the sacrament as well?
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Check out the bottom of page 9: http://www.public.navy.mil/fcc-c10f/Important RMT Instructions/OPNAVINST_1730_1D.pdf
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In practice, I believe only a priest or deacon can do that. In historical practice, (I believe) the deaconess could bring reserved sacraments to the sick and those who could not come to the church. Don't quote me on the last part through.
I'm not positive on that point. I think any layperson can perform and emergency baptism, but if the person baptized lives, the priest must complete the sacrament. Again, I'm not positive on the specifics with emergency baptism.
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