the name of Mohammad in the Old testament
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Mohammed cannot get you to Heaven no matter how hard you try, no matter how often you pray. There is one true path to heaven. That is the Lord Jesus Christ. By one man, Adam, sin and death came into the world. By one man, Noah, life on earth was given a second chance and by one man, Jesus, the sins of man may be absolved. There is no other way. Nobody comes to the Father but by Him.
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Who denies that jesus is the Christ?
Can you please differ between islam and Arabic traditions?
I am a muslim I talk with many boys on the phone in front of my father and that is okay with him
Our prophet led people away from the true god?? The prophet who calls to believe in the god of Abraham jesus moses is leading people to a false god?? How come? Our prophet who called to believe in Judaism and Christianity is leading us to worship a false god?
And Christians didn’t commit murders and massacres? Say hello to the crusades
Does that make you believing in a false god?
Lots of narrations are false and we do not believe in such narrations of killing and terror
Don’t you believe that those who defend their countries are most respected than those who refuse defending them? This is the meaning of the Surah
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This is not true all those narrations are false and we muslim Shia do not believe or trust the source of these narrations
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This is not true also they said to marry this girl to the prophet at 9 but there was no intercourse until she became a woman a mature one
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Hhhh that makes me laugh..from where did they know that he was fat?? Our prophet was living as a ascetic
Our prophet didn’t do anything evil what you have came with are false narration from a book we do not believe in ..”Bukhari” is an untrusted book for us by that we rreject all the narrations you have mentioned
Our prophet was not a murder...you people have made massacres in the name of Christianity does that makes jesus a terrorist and Christianity a terrorist religion??
Killing has nothing to do with our prophet..
“Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life”
This is the calling of the Quran the book of Mohammad...is that terror or saving people??
We believe in the same god you and us yet we are different in the details even Jesus called you to believe in his god the one god the father
Prophet Mohammad is a sinful person?? What did he do?? Call us to be kind and merciful calling us to believe in the ten commandments??
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Who is that idiot who told you so?? Prophet Mohammad was married to the most wealthy woman in the Arabic tribes..he was not in need of money and if he was he would steal anything...you are soo biased
“And verily, you (O Muhammad
This is Mohammad
I see MOHAMMAD a true path to follow I believe in him and I rrespect him a lot..i see him as a savior for all humanity .i see him a merciful man a kind just man who used always to call for peace not for killing...Jesus is a savior I agree but Mohammad is my savior also..i believe in him 1000%
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no I do not believe in incarnation I believe Jesus was the spirit of god ...his word his manifestation his prophet but the idea of god in flesh is so irrational and impossible for me..god is god human is human
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You deny that He is the son of God, and the only sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. How are your sins forgiven without a blood sacrifice? You hold to neither the old or the new covenant.
Luck you.
Parents kill daughter by pouring acid on her face after being caught talking to a boy
How is one calling to believe in Christianity while denying that Christ was the son of God and the blood sacrifice for the sins of man? That same Christianity warned of false teachers like Mohammed with a new message that would deceive many.
Please show where Jesus said to arise and kill in His name. I believer that was YOUR religion.
However, it is in the Quran and others who also follow the Quran understand that they will go to paradise if they kill for Allah.
Mohammed wasn't defending anything. He had no country to defend. He was attacking and making war against the Meccans. His call to battle was never about defense. That's why the Muslims invaded the Holy Lands in the first place.
When Mohammed was out of power in Mecca he wrote about getting along with everyone. When he became a strongman in Medina his message changed. Both are of the same man.
Absolute nonsense. Aisha became his wife at 6. When she was 9 she was playing on a swing with her doll. Her mother came and got her and brought her to the 55 year old Mohammed, who then has sex with her. I could post her account of the story, which happened exactly like that. Would you like to read it?
Mohammed was not a holy man. He had 13 wives and routinely raped captured slaves.
The violence you don't reject, only his weight?
History says otherwise.
Over 670 million non-Muslims massacred since the birth of Islam
Sure he believed in them, but he violated every one of them. He was an evil man; a false prophet. According to the Bible his place is in the lake of fire.
Turn to Jesus and you may be saved.
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We deny he is the son we believe he is the spirit of god
Killing daughter with acid are not Islamic teachings it is Arabic traditions
For you prophet Mohammad is a false prophet for billions of people he is a true one
Prophet called us to believe in the monotheistic books is that a false prophet?
And the crusades were they killing in the name of the Christ? Yes
No you are wrong ..if you kill innocent people you will enter to hell this is in the Quran
Mohammad was defending his religion and he has the right to do so
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You are reading false narrations of false source..i am wondering do they used to have dolls then?
Prophet Mohammad is a holy man whether you believe it or not..having many wives were from the old traditions and not only in islam
Having many wives is not something restricted to islam:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy
read this topic
prophet Mohammad was a man of peace even if he was leading wars he was defending his religion he has the right to do so
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He didn’t violate any thing..he was not an evil man nor a false prophet ...the message of prophet Mohammad is more truth than all the other messages because it combines all messages the Judaism the Christianity and Islam this is the proof upon the truth of the message of Mohammad and the truth of the prophecy of Mohammad..the ones who will go to hell are those who corrupted your bible and those who transformed Jesus from the spirit of god to the son of god and made jesus a god like the god of universe..
Those who are humiliating our prophet will take place in the lake of fire and never our prophet..prophet Mohammad has the keys of paradise and hell he is free to enter anyone and take out anyone of them
Our sins will be forgiven through the mercy of God
Killing daughter with acid are not Islamic teachings it is Arabic traditions
For you prophet Mohammad is a false prophet for billions of people he is a true one
Prophet called us to believe in the monotheistic books is that a false prophet?
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And the crusades were they killing in the name of the Christ? Yes
No you are wrong ..if you kill innocent people you will enter to hell this is in the Quran
Mohammad was defending his religion and he has the right to do so
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You are reading false narrations of false source..i am wondering do they used to have dolls then?
Prophet Mohammad is a holy man whether you believe it or not..having many wives were from the old traditions and not only in islam
Having many wives is not something restricted to islam:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polygamy
read this topic
prophet Mohammad was a man of peace even if he was leading wars he was defending his religion he has the right to do so
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He didn’t violate any thing..he was not an evil man nor a false prophet ...the message of prophet Mohammad is more truth than all the other messages because it combines all messages the Judaism the Christianity and Islam this is the proof upon the truth of the message of Mohammad and the truth of the prophecy of Mohammad..the ones who will go to hell are those who corrupted your bible and those who transformed Jesus from the spirit of god to the son of god and made jesus a god like the god of universe..
Those who are humiliating our prophet will take place in the lake of fire and never our prophet..prophet Mohammad has the keys of paradise and hell he is free to enter anyone and take out anyone of them
Our sins will be forgiven through the mercy of God
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Is it possible that he is the spirit of God?
According to Luke 3:21-22,
the spirit of God came down over him as a dove.
So, the spirit of God came down over the spirit of God?
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Genesis 1:2,
Now the Earth was astonishly empty,
and darkness was on the face of the deep,
and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the water.
There we have him again, hovering over water,
remarkable chap don't you think?
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There is another possibijity,
on another level.
The body is a vehicle for the soul,
of which the spirit is part of it's makeup.
Rashi comments on Gen 1:2,
The throne of glory was suspended in the air and hovered over the face of the water with the breath of the Holy One blessed be He and with His Word,
like a dove hovers over the nest.
Midrash has it,
The spirit of God hovered as a dove,
is the spirit of the Messiah.
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How does he call you to believe in the book but yet reject what is written in it? That makes no sense. How are you to believe in the Jews and then at a later date be called upon to hunt them to extinction?
Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
They were taking the name of the Lord in vain. Had they been ordained by God, they would have easily driven the Muslims from the Holy lands. God doesn't lose battles.
I believe you, but in his latter teaching Mohammed doesn't consider non Muslims to be innocent.
Mohammed's attacks were proactive, not reactive.
From the hadith of Bukhari, volume 5, #234
"Narrated Aisha: The prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six. We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Harith Kharzraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became all right, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's messenger came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age."
There was nothing holy about Mohammed. Sorry.
Rape Jihad
This very important Jihad was sanctioned by Allah in ayas 4.3,4.24,23.6,33.50 and 70.30
Allah says in these ayas that muslims are allowed to capture infidel women and to have sex with them. Muhammad, all sahabas and all great muslim invaders practiced this sanction of Allah.
The above verses are only a few out of numerous such verses scattered throughout the Quran. What could be more unethical than owning and raping slave girls? Allah graciously allowed Muslims to own and rape slave girls. Prophet Muhammad himself and his disciples routinely raped their slave girls. source
He led wars of conquest, not in defense of his religion.
By Biblical definition he was both.
Mohammed shares in the torment of all he leads to destruction. He led an immoral life of rape, murder and enslavement and now pays for his sins. The Bible says in Revelation that that false prophet will be cast into the lake of fire. Mohammed is assuredly a false prophet. I'm sorry that you can't see what is glaringly obvious to most. I sincerely hope you turn away from this religion of evil.
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Dear HZ, you have said some interesting things. In the Bible, the Spirit of God is God Himself (Genesis 1:2), and God is Spirit (John 4:24). And the Word of God is God (John 1:1). Consider: can God ever be without His Word? You call Jesus “God’s manifestation.” That sounds very Christian. Would you explain what you mean by that? I have not heard a Muslim say that before. The Bible teaches that Jesus is “God manifest in the flesh” (1 Timothy 3:16). I don’t want to belabor the issue, but why do you think it is irrational and impossible for God to come to us as a man? God remains God, and human remains human, both natures remain intact; but in Jesus the deity and the humanity are united in one Person, similar to how our own immaterial soul and material body are united to form a single human person. Reality has a way of uniting things whose union we cannot explain.
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"Crazy"..
I have a fairly long history on this forum and one of the issues I've seen raised here by other Christians here in the past has been the age of Aisha and the marriages of Prophet Muhammad. First the Prophet was married to Khadijih for over twenty years and there were believed to be five children from His first marriage... He practised monogamy in His first marriage... Secondly no one knows for sure how old the people were at the time of Muhammad. There was no universal calendar used in Arabia at the time... The Hadith collected by Bukhari which contains the reputed statement of Aisha re. her marriage is well over a hundred years old and people at the time did not celebrate birthdays as we do today. Per the article on Aisha in wikipedia that is fairly well cited see the following:
"Muslim authors who calculate Aisha's age based on the more detailed information available about her sister Asma estimate that she was over thirteen and perhaps between seventeen and nineteen at the time of her marriage.[28] Muhammad Niknam Arabshahi, an Iranian Islamic scholar and historian, has considered six different approaches to determining Aisha'a age and concluded that she was engaged in her late teens.[29] Using the age of Fatimah as a reference point, the Lahore Ahmadiyya Movement scholar Muhammad Ali has estimated that Aisha was over ten years old at the time of marriage and over fifteen at the time of its consummation."[30]
Aisha - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aisha#cite_note-30
So as you can see there is some controversy re. the age of Aisha when she was supposed to have married the Prophet.
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There is different sects of Jews not all Jews will be fought..we believe in Judaism and Christianity but are Christians and jews applying their own religion correctly?
You mean do you support crusades? Thus what is the difference between you guys and Daish and the terrorists?? We have told you thousands of time that terrorists are not applying the teaching of God nor the teaching of our prophet yet you are not believing us
In all his life prophet Mohammad called to be kind with jews and Christians and even atheists
Our prophet calls for fight to defend home lands or our religion and this is the right of every human to do so
I’ve read the story of Aisha yet there ws no intercourse nor real marriage until she became mature
This is wrong you are misinterpreting the verses
I reviewed the verses all the verses talking that if you want to marry captive women you are allowed to do so but not against the will of the captive woman...is marriage forbidden?? No
The mother of our Imam the twelfth imam was a captive when our imam Hassan al aaskari saw her he showed the desire to marry her..then they were married and gave birth to our imam Mahdi (the one who will appear with jesus Christ to rescue people)
Her name was Malika and she was Christian ..so where is the sex slaves here?
They used to marry captive women just as the normal same marriage of other women
Prophet Mohammad is a true prophet whether you believe it or not...raping and slave sex are not included is his morals..all the verses you have mentioned talks about normal marriage not raping...prophet Mohammad was calling always for mercy and compassion
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Jesus god’s manifestation means that god can be seen through jesus why not he is a mirror that reflects the characteristics of god..but the idea that says jesus is god or jesus is the son of god, this is impossible and unacceptable by us
You said god is god and human is human that is why it is irrational to say god was incarnated or became in flesh
You have mentioned the idea of the relation between the soul and the body...very good
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Most of the controversy is recent. At the time people thought nothing of it. It's not just that she was young and he was old, she was his 13th wife.
Not hardly what one would expect from a prophet.
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So maybe we'll be the lucky ones not to be targeted.
What I said was, if they truly had God's blessing they would have won. Regardless, what is the difference between taking a country by the sword and taking it back by the sword? The Muslims had no right to claim the land in the first place.
The problem is they quote from the same book. Maybe Islam should rise up and reject everything Mohammed wrote calling for war after he left Mecca.
Only if you reject half the Quran.
Nobody threatened his homeland. His were wars of conquest.
If you consider nine to be mature...
So you're telling me that Mohammed and his men had the permission of all the captives and slaves that they raped?
I have no doubt some captives became wives. However, when Christ returns it will be with angels, not with humans.
And yet, even today Muslims are kidnapping girls and selling them for sex slaves.
I believe the Scriptures and their determination of what constitutes a false prophet.
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Dear HZ, irrational would mean that there was a logical contradiction somewhere. You have recognized that there is no logical contradiction involved in the personal union of two incommensurate things, soul and body. Likewise there is no contradiction involved in the union of Divine and human in the Person of Jesus.
As for what is possible for God, God Himself must tell us, right? And He has told us in the Holy Scriptures that the Incarnation not only is possible but also that it has occurred. We should rejoice!
You affirm that God can be seen through Jesus. How true! Do you agree with the Lord Jesus’ statement, “He who has seen Me has seen the Father” (John 14:9)?
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Actually "Crazy" Aisha was the third wife of Prophet Muhammad. You know I was thinking when I read your posts above that you should do your own research and depend less on some of material you've relied on before... that might help you appreciate what a Prophet is.
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