Homosexuality & Preference Options

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Asked to plot themselves on a 'sexuality scale', 23% of British people chose something other than 100% heterosexual - and the figure rises to 49% among 18-24 year olds.

This indicates that sexual behavior has more to do with attitudes than it does with genetic causes.

There is an inherent issue with outcomes of such polls, too. That being: as non-heterosexual identity becomes less stigmatized in society, you will ultimately get a larger outcome of people willing to experiment outside heterosexual norms than in the past. This doesn't actually mean that it is more prevalent to have desires outside heterosexual ones, it only means the people are more likely to admit to them or play into them.

This also seems partly to explain why the number rises as age decreases. The younger polled individuals are invariably from a mindset more tolerant to alternative expressions of sexuality than those who grew up in more normative, more restrictive environs. They will be more willing to admit to such an attraction, or to such behavior, than their older counterparts.


I would guess that similar polls in the US would show a similar trend - but my guess is also that such a poll in the US would overall have smaller percentages of people claiming some degree of non-heterosexual identity. I say this because the US become open to homosexual and transexual issues much later than Britain did - Britain decriminalized homosexual activity in the 60s, the US not until 2004, among other related changes in policy and social attitude in the broad spectrum of sexuality. The US tends to still be much more prudish than Britain even now.
[Will have to see if I can find such a poll performed in the US.]
 
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Yes, definitely. As far as the percentages, it ultimately depends on what research you read.

Hi all,

Unlikely as it may seem, surveys from across the world have confirmed that only 1-2% of society in virtually any given western country is gay. See, for example, ‘Homosexuality: An Issue for our Time’ by Gregory Rogers.

Rogers provides ample evidence from leading studies in about 15 countries, all of which had results in the 1-2 percent range for male homosexuality(pages 21-36). It is not a case of subjectively chosen surveys, as the low percentage rate is almost universally accepted now (except in the media, where it is played down for political reasons). See, for instance, the gay-friendly International Encyclopedia of Sexuality, Sex in America: A Definitive Survey, the leading US sex survey, Sexual Attitudes and Lifestyles, the leading UK sex study, and leading journals such as Archives of General Psychiatry, etc.

As to why public ‘impressions’ are of a high percentage, Rogers cites gay activists Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen who admit in their book After the Ball that, ‘Based on their personal experience, most straights probably would put the gay population at 1% or 2% of the general population. Yet… when straights are asked by pollsters for a formal estimate, the figure played back most often is the ‘10% gay’ statistic which our propagandists have been drilling into their heads for years.’ (pages 30-31).

On page 32 Rogers even cites Camille Paglia, a lesbian activist who also admits, ‘‘The 10 percent figure, severely repeated by the media, was pure propaganda, and it made me, as a scholar, despise gay activists for their unscrupulous disregard for the truth. Their fibs and fabrications continue, now about the still-fragmentary evidence for a genetic link to homosexuality and for homosexual behavior among animals.”

As to the hows and whys, he also says, To take a somewhat unrelated example, Jehovah's Witnesses are well-known around the world for their door-to-door evangelistic endeavors, far more than any other minor group within Christendom. Yet many might be surprised to know that their numbers worldwide amount to just over 8 million. By contrast, other religious groups are more numerous, yet maintain a smaller profile....The twentieth century has seen a number of small advocacy and political groups making great strides, in part through exaggerating their power and numbers…” (pages 33-35).
 
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From what i can glean from my Google search this essay has only been read by right wing conspiracy theorists and hate groups.


Hi,

The question of a ‘gay gene’ is really one of the most misunderstood and mis-reported of recent times. See, therefore, Homosexuality: An Issue for our Time, by Gregory Rogers, who devotes two chapters to the question (pages 37 to 84).

Simply put, there is little or no evidence of the existence of a gay gene, and it is unlikely that such could be proven in the near future. In fact, even leading gay activists have been honest enough to admit as such.

Thus Rogers cites activist Peter Tatchell, who says, ‘Much as I would love to go along with the fashionable "born gay" consensus (it would be very politically convenient), I can't. The evidence does not support the idea that sexuality is a fixed biological given.’ (page 64).

Lesbian activist Camille Paglia also says, ‘Is gay identity so fragile that it cannot bear the thought that some people may not wish to be gay? The difficulties in changing sexual orientation do not spring from its genetic innateness’ (page 65)

And:

‘Thus homosexuality, in my view, is an adaptation, not an inborn trait. When they claim they were gay “as far back as I can remember,” gay men are remembering their isolation and alienation, their differentness, which is a function of their special gifts. Such protestations are of little value in any case, since it is unlikely that much can be recalled before age three, when sexual orientation may already be fixed.’ (pages 60-61)

The very best article describing the hows and whys of the ‘gay gene’ and how it could and should work are to be found in the essay of Jeffrey Satinover, ‘The Gay Gene’ at http://www.joel225.org/view/the-gay-gene.html
 
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Everyone has experienced attraction to the same sex at one time or another or ongoing it's totally normal to experience this. I think solely gay or solely hetro are the minorities in society with the rest of us falling in the middle of that spectrum with more preference one way or another.

Attraction is one thing but what you do about it is our struggle as Christians.

I have to confess to wrestling with my conscience condemning anyone of something I have mentally experienced myself occasionally and it feels real hypocritical so I don't. Lucky for me girls are one of my favourite things and that makes obeying the bible that way natural for me.

It's been my experience from many people they are relieved to tell someone in conversation they have had that attraction happen at some time and they are not alone and God doesn't hate them.
 
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Attraction is one thing but what you do about it is our struggle as Christians.

Agree, totally. Being tempted (attraction) is not the sin, acting on it is.

It's been my experience from many people they are relieved to tell someone in conversation they have had that attraction happen at some time and they are not alone and God doesn't hate them.

God does not hate anyone. He hates the sin.
 
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