This world is without sin; however, there is still evil.

miknik5 · Feb 4, 2017

Kenneth Redden said:
How has science come to the conclusion that sin is no longer in our environment? Science did it through a good report, the truths of the Universe. Sin, from the foundation of the world, was the breaking of the laws of the heavens, as made by the Word of the LORD. I believe the ten commandments can only be an interpolation of the way things really were then, in those "heavens".
Nevertheless, we of the fourth day of the creation, live in the Universe actually made by the generations of the heavens and the earth. God let it happen and the generations made it so. This is how we can have, Science; because the generations may be measured in this dispensation, the dispensation of the grace of God.
This is an avenue I have been pondering.

Ponder this:

Christs prayer for those whom the father had given him....

Out of the world
Father I do not pray for the world but for those whom you have given me out of the world

He continues on to say:

They are not of the world even as I am not of the world

I do not ask that you take them out of the world but to keep them from the evil one

Kenneth Redden · Feb 4, 2017

Bigmike424 said:
Because you said you are without sin. In this flesh you are wrong.

I disagree with you here. Our body, or tabernacle, in this fourth day heaven and earth; is perfect. It may be the product of over one-quintillion repetitions of the first, second and third day of the creation in Genesis 1, as it is written, in other places of the KJV Bible.

miknik5 · Feb 4, 2017

Our faith is in CHRIST

And

we...
Are IN CHRIST

Kenneth Redden · Feb 4, 2017

miknik5 said:
Ponder this:

Christs prayer for those whom the father had given him....

Out of the world

He continues on to say:

They are not of the world even as I am not of the world

I do not ask that you take them out of the world but to keep them from the evil one

Is there anything new here? If so, please explain. Thank you.

Kenneth Redden · Feb 4, 2017

miknik5 said:
Our faith is in CHRIST

And

we...
Are IN CHRIST

Wait a minute. Is this some religious double-talk? Are you saying that because we are in Christ that it is our faith referenced in 2 Timothy 3:15?
That seems like it would work, doesn't it? Not. That would be a far stretch for the imagination.

miknik5 · Feb 4, 2017

Kenneth Redden said:
I disagree with you here. Our body, or tabernacle, in this fourth day heaven and earth; is perfect. It may be the product of over one-quintillion repetitions of the first, second and third day of the creation in Genesis 1, as it is written, in other places of the KJV Bible.

Then you are twio days short of the sabbath

miknik5 · Feb 4, 2017

Kenneth Redden said:
Wait a minute. Is this some religious double-talk? Are you saying that because we are in Christ that it is our faith referenced in 2 Timothy 3:15?
That seems like it would work, doesn't it? Not. That would be a far stretch for the imagination.

It will work for us since we have already been transferred out of and into the kingdom of LIGHT and are seated in the heavenly realms with (and in) CHRIST JESUS

Our inheritance is IN HIM and our faith is directed in and on HIM who is leading us by HIS LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT

miknik5 · Feb 4, 2017

Far stretch of the imagination?

What?

The mystery?

Kenneth Redden · Feb 4, 2017

miknik5 said:
And you said there was no sin yet now you agree there is division and unbelief. And what did CHRIST say to those who did not believe HIM?

Yes, but you are not understanding the time frame. He was speaking from a time when He had come by water only, not by water and blood, as was done on the third day of the creation. 1 John 5:6 KJV.

miknik5 said:
Then you are twio days short of the sabbath

No the psalm for the three day Sabbath may be found in the doublet of Psalms 93. It just has the first three days.
I believe the first day is closed, in the KJV Bible with A Prayer of Moses the man of God with the two doublets in Psalms 90:1-6.
I believe the third day is opened in the KJV Bible with the three day doublet in Proverbs 8:23-31 from the Spirit of God

miknik5 said:
It will work for us since we have already been transferred out of and into the kingdom of LIGHT and are seated in the heavenly realms with (and in) CHRIST JESUS

Our inheritance is IN HIM and our faith is directed in and on HIM who is leading us by HIS LIFE-GIVING SPIRIT

Respectfully, that is just more tired Christian rhetoric. Please support your argument, and stop begging the question. And this appears to be the only way to stop the cover-up, to offer the true story in a discourse totally invisible to them, like as seen in Paul's interpretation of the Revelation.

Kenneth Redden · Feb 4, 2017

There is a threading amongst Revelation 2:12-13, John 8:44 and Isaiah 14:12-14, which may have the core story for the days of the creation in the KJV. It is about, I would say, the darkness upon the face of the deep.

miknik5 · Feb 4, 2017

Kenneth Redden said:
Yes, but you are not understanding the time frame. He was speaking from a time when He had come by water only, not by water and blood, as was done on the third day of the creation. 1 John 5:6 KJV.

No the psalm for the three day Sabbath may be found in the doublet of Psalms 93. It just has the first three days.
I believe the first day is closed, in the KJV Bible with A Prayer of Moses the man of God with the two doublets in Psalms 90:1-6.
I believe the third day is opened in the KJV Bible with the three day doublet in Proverbs 8:23-31 from the Spirit of God

Respectfully, that is just more tired Christian rhetoric. Please support your argument, and stop begging the question. And this appears to be the only way to stop the cover-up, to offer the true story in a discourse totally invisible to them, like as seen in Paul's interpretation of the Revelation.

Oh you divided HIM
I stopped at your first misinterpreted statement of
This is HE who came not by "water" only.

But by water and blood

This is HE
THE last "Adam" (who is also the FIRST

But we're not like THE last Adam fit flesh came first before "water"

Kenneth Redden · Feb 4, 2017

Bigmike424 said:
Because you said you are without sin. In this flesh you are wrong.

Not necessarily, we of the fourth day of the creation; are made in, "the dispensation of the grace of God," in which you have to be made perfect.

Kenneth Redden · Feb 4, 2017

miknik5 said:
Oh you divided HIM
I stopped at your first misinterpreted statement of
This is HE who came not by "water" only. Why do you think

But by water and blood
This is HE
THE last "Adam" (who is also the FIRST

Yes, HE came by water and blood on the fourth day of the creation. But he came by water only on the first one-quintillion occurrences of the days of the creation, as implied with, "not by water only," in 1 John 5:6. This means that John 19:34 could not have been added to the text until this last occurrence of the days of the creation.

miknik5 said:
But we're not like THE last Adam fit flesh came first before "water"

I don't know what that means, please explain.

miknik5 · Feb 4, 2017

Kenneth Redden said:
There is a threading amongst Revelation 2:12-13, John 8:44 and Isaiah 14:12-14, which may have the core story for the days of the creation in the KJV. It is about, I would say, the darkness upon the face of the deep.

But......,L I G H T

Actually let's back it up to the beginning and before creation

"And the SPIRIT of GOD moved upon the face of the waters

Before GOD began HIS WORK of creation, it was just a soupy, formless mass of water

But nontheless GOD's SPIRIT was over the waters ...there from the beginning

miknik5 · Feb 4, 2017

Kenneth Redden said:
Yes, HE came by water and blood on the fourth day of the creation. But he came by water only on the first one-quintillion occurrences of the days of the creation, as implied with, "not by water only," in 1 John 5:6. This means that John 19:34 could not have been added to the text until this last occurrence of the days of the creation.

I don't know what that means, please explain.

1 Corinthians 15 will explain it to you

You are confused because what John is saying is that JESUS came in the flesh and didn't come by "water" only

It's the same as saying whoever denies Jesus as coming in the flesh is anti christ

Kenneth Redden · Feb 5, 2017

miknik5 said:
1 Corinthians 15 will explain it to you

You are confused because what John is saying is that JESUS came in the flesh and didn't come by "water" only

It's the same as saying whoever denies Jesus as coming in the flesh is anti christ

Now, that's a stretch for the imagination. Scripture does not make a point out of something that was not done. The reason why 1 John 5:6 says the he came, "not by water only," is because Christ came by water only, in all the days of the creation except; in these last days, when he came not by water only, but by water and blood.

Kenneth Redden · Feb 5, 2017

miknik5 said:
But......,L I G H T

Actually let's back it up to the beginning and before creation

"And the SPIRIT of GOD moved upon the face of the waters

Before GOD began HIS WORK of creation, it was just a soupy, formless mass of water

But nontheless GOD's SPIRIT was over the waters ...there from the beginning

Yes, of course; Proverbs 8:22-31 tells the story of the Spirit of God, from the beginning of the creation.

miknik5 · Feb 5, 2017

Kenneth Redden said:
Yes, of course; Proverbs 8:22-31 tells the story of the Spirit of God, from the beginning of the creation.

When was the firmament set?
Before or after the the fourth day?

Kenneth Redden · Feb 5, 2017

miknik5 said:
When was the firmament set?
Before or after the the fourth day?

If you are talking about, "firmament," in Genesis 1:6; you tell me when the firmament was set. The second day of the creation!

miknik5 · Feb 5, 2017

Kenneth Redden said:
If you are talking about, "firmament," in Genesis 1:6; you tell me when the firmament was set. The second day of the creation!

Yes exactly. In which case the WAY between HEAVEN(GOD) and EARTH (MAN) was set in place from the beginning

This world is without sin; however, there is still evil.

"Let not your heart be troubled"

The day I found 2 Timothy 3:15 KJV!

"Let not your heart be troubled"

The day I found 2 Timothy 3:15 KJV!

The day I found 2 Timothy 3:15 KJV!

"Let not your heart be troubled"

"Let not your heart be troubled"

"Let not your heart be troubled"

The day I found 2 Timothy 3:15 KJV!

The day I found 2 Timothy 3:15 KJV!

"Let not your heart be troubled"

The day I found 2 Timothy 3:15 KJV!

The day I found 2 Timothy 3:15 KJV!

"Let not your heart be troubled"

"Let not your heart be troubled"

The day I found 2 Timothy 3:15 KJV!

The day I found 2 Timothy 3:15 KJV!

"Let not your heart be troubled"

The day I found 2 Timothy 3:15 KJV!

"Let not your heart be troubled"

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