Does relocating US embassy to Jerusalem fit into Bible prophecy ?

AlasBabylon said:

Because God's Christ-bearing people are living stones in God's Temple made without hands
and our bodies are temples of God's Holy Spirit [1 Corinthians 6:19]... I see this as related to
the unforgivable sin against God's Holy Spirit when antichrist secular humanism replaces God
in one's body temple.

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I agree. But what you seem to not get is that there will be a physical temple built in Jerusalem. The Jews in Israel WILL build a physical temple. We know that they are Christ deniers. They do NOT recognize Christ as the temple so they are apostate. They will not think that building a physical temple is wrong. Get that! Stop arguing that Christ is the temple to us as if we don't know that. We know.

Handmaid for Jesus said:

I agree. But what you seem to not get is that there will be a physical temple built in Jerusalem. The Jews in Israel WILL build a physical temple. We know that they are Christ deniers. They do NOT recognize Christ as the temple so they are apostate. They will not think that building a physical temple is wrong. Get that! Stop arguing that Christ is the temple to us as if we don't know that. We know.

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Handmaid for Jesus said:

2 Thessalonians 2:3-5King James Version (KJV)
3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

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1 - You are just implying on the scriptures that says, "He as god sitteth in the temple of God", so there for in order to do that there must be a rebuilt temple. That's an assumption. 2 - Lets say that if there were to be a rebuilt temple, why are you using these verses to assume it is the Jews? Who is Paul writing to in 1st and 2nd Thessalonians? Is it just Jews? I'm not trying to belittle or put you down in any way. I'm simply trying to wrap my head around where this Idea is found in scripture.

jcm2000 said:

Is it just Jews? I'm not trying to belittle or put you down in any way. I'm simply trying to wrap my head around where this Idea is found in scripture.

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I think you very much want to put me down, but that is forgiven. The scripture I posted points to a temple. The Jews have already made preparations to rebuild their temple. It will be done whether we in the West approve or not.
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tranquil said:

Trump is probably the antichrist. Blunt enough for you?

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Yep he most likely is. he fulfils so much biblical prophecy. It so sad that many christians have been decived by him.

FaithfulPilgrim said:

Interesting. I really need to brush up on biblical eschatology.

Idk what to make of it
this yet.

I mean, Trump could be the Antichrist, but I've thought that the Antichrist is a person we wouldn't expect to be him.

Trump is certainly charismatic and egotistical, but I wouldn't go as far as to say he is the Antichrist yet, as there are/were lots of individuals who are/were believed to be the Antichrist.

Eight years ago, people were saying Obama was the Antichrist, and the same was with Reagan. I guess whoever is president will be accused of being the Antichrist.

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I don't recall Obama or Reagan having so many antichrist traits. trump pretty much fulfils them all. you only have to see his speeches of how ONLY he, not GOD, He can save America. How long before he proclaims that he is GOD.

daleksteve said:

I don't recall Obama or Reagan having so many antichrist traits. trump pretty much fulfils them all. you only have to see his speeches of how ONLY he, not GOD, He can save America. How long before he proclaims that he is GOD.

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Honestly, I can him saying that. However, Hitler basically wanted to make Germany great again and thought he alone could make things better for the German people, but wasn't the Antichrist.

jcm2000 said:

What is the scriptural support to show the Jews will rebuild the temple?

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Revelation 11:1-3
Zechariah 1:12-16
Isaiah 44:28
Isaiah 64:11
Matthew 24:15
Ezekiel 8:16-18
Ezekiel 9:3-9
Zechariah 6:12-15
Zechariah 8:9

And the entire book of Haggai, which is the most detailed documentation of the 3rd temple.








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In the link below is a list of all wars involving Israel since it became a nation again in 1948.

List of wars involving Israel - Wikipedia

Her two biggest wars were the War of Independence (1947-1949) and the Six-Day War (1967). Other than the tetrad blood moons, something significant happened resulting from those wars. Israel was reborn in 1948 and Israel occupies Jerusalem in 1967.

Their next war will be the their final war outside the tribulation. There will not be another tetrad for almost 500 years. What will come out of this is Jerusalem will finally be recognize by the international community as Israel's capital. When that happens, Israel will finally be allowed to build the next temple. What's been stopping the construction of a temple in Jerusalem the last 69 years is the Two-State Solution that recognizes both Israel and Palestine as two countries having to share Jerusalem. Right now, Trump is fighting the UN to end the Two-State solution and move the US embassy to Jerusalem.

ISRAEL ENVOY WELCOMES TRUMP PLAN TO DEFUND UN BODIES RECOGNIZING PA MEMBERSHIP
Israel envoy welcomes Trump plan to defund UN bodies recognizing PA membership

Trump Executive Order Will Defund UN and All Agencies Recognizing Palestinian State
Trump Executive Order Will Defund UN and All Agencies Recognizing Palestinian State

As two-state solution dies, one-state alternative is born
As two-state solution dies, one-state alternative is born

How the Surge in East Jerusalem Construction Plans Could Spell End of Two-state Solution
Buoyed by Trump's ascent to power, here are the plans that could create irrevocable facts on the ground.
How the surge in East Jerusalem construction plans could spell end of two-state solution - Israel News

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What will come out this will produce a war between Israel and Palestine and all her immediate surrounding neighboring countries.

KERRY, ABBAS WARN OF AN 'EXPLOSION' OF VIOLENCE WITH JERUSALEM EMBASSY MOVE
Kerry, Abbas warn of an 'explosion' of violence with Jerusalem embassy move

'BLOODSHED WILL FOLLOW IF TRUMP MOVES US EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM'
'Bloodshed will follow if Trump moves US embassy to Jerusalem'

Want a Third Intifada? Go Ahead and Move the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem
https://www.yahoo.com/news/want-third-intifada-ahead-move-221248247.html

PA top dogs threaten that moving US embassy to Jerusalem “declaration of war on all Muslims”
PA top dogs threaten that moving US embassy to Jerusalem “declaration of war on all Muslims”

Palestinians warn of 'chaos' if US embassy moved to Jerusalem
Palestinians warn of 'chaos' if US embassy moved to Jerusalem

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This is where the war mentioned in Isaiah 26:15-18. This war is also covered in a few other scriptures but I'll refrain from writing too much and stay on this scripture for now. And no, it's not covered in Psalms 83. But I do want to add that when the next war happens, a lot of people especially on the internet will think it's Psalms 83. It's wrong and it's not.


In the outcome, Israel will be victorious and will expand it's borders in all direction. Isaiah 26:15.


But Israel will suffer heavy casualties during this war. Isaiah 26:16-17.


Isaiah 26:18 will be harder for most readers to understand but at the end, victory will come to Israel. However, they didn't win the war for themselves and the people living in the countries they fight will be scattered to other parts of the Middle East.

As you can read from Isaiah 26:15-18, Israel praised God for her victory. But how will Israel win this coming war? This war that will produce the 7 year peace agreement and allow Jerusalem to be recognize by many as her capital and begin the construction of the 3rd temple.

Listen to Trump in the following videos. All are short except the last video. Around 25 minutes, but it's the most important video.

Trump stands behind Israel 100% and will defend Israel if she's attacked. America will help fight Israel's wars now and in the tribulation.

Also listen when Trump speaks about how to deal with the Palestinians. He said "we have to take them out." He doesn't believe Palestine can coexist with Israel because they are raised since age 2 to hate the Jews. That's his argument against the Two-State solution. So Trump will push for a war and will come to Israel's aid when they're attacked.






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Below are two videos from his speech at AIPAC. The first video is the full version about 24 minutes. I highly recommend watching this one.

Donald Trump's Full Rousing Speech AIPAC Policy Conference (3-21-16)

This one is a shorter 5 minute version of the video above. Inspirational too if you love Israel.

MUST WATCH- What DONALD TRUMP has said about ISRAEL?










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AlasBabylon said:

God has led me on a journey of study in both the Bible and secular history
and specifically the study of ancient Babylon and Cyrus because they are
used symbolically in the book of Revelation. For example, Rev 16:12 refers
to drying up the Euphrates river for the kings of the east. According to
ancient Greek historians, drying up the Euphrates river at Babylon was Cyrus'
brilliant plan to conquer the city via a surprise invasion ["like a thief" Rev 16:15]
One fateful night, Cyrus' troops diverted the water of the Euphrates river and
secretly entered Babylon by going under Babylon's wall that was too strong
to overtly breach. Later, Cyrus himself made his triumphant entrance into
Babylon probably riding one of his special white horses Cyrus took with him
on his campaign against Babylon [Rev 19:11]. It was an earlier incident with
one of Cyrus' white horses that had given Cyrus the brilliant idea to divert
the water of the Euphrates. Revelation repeats this history in symbolic form
because Babylon is the symbolic name of the end-time evil empire and Cyrus
is an OT archetype of Christ.

Here is something else interesting that God showed me. Jeremiah 50 & 51
is prophecy of the fall of Babylon. The end of Jeremiah 51 says Jeremiah
told Seraiah when he arrives at the city of Babylon to read the prophecy,
weight it and throw the prophecy scroll into the Euphrates river so it will
sink to the bottom symbolizing the future fall of Babylon. That is all Jeremiah
tells us. But marry Jeremiah's words with secular history and symbolic imagery
is revealed. Jeremiah's prophecy scroll was at the bottom of the Euphrates river
at Babylon. Later Cyrus diverted the water and dried up that same part of the
Euphrates river at Babylon for his surprise invasion and conquest of Babylon.

Cyrus decreed a portion of the Israelites from Babylonian captivity return to
Jerusalem to rebuild the temple [Ezra 1.] The books of Ezra and Nehemiah
record that aftermath.

However, this time around "Babylon" is global. God's Temple is God incarnate,
Jesus Christ. God's Christ-bearing people are living stones in God's Temple
made without hands. God brings New Jerusalem down from heaven.

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All the information about the 70 year Babylonian capitivity leading up to the construction of the 2nd temple is found from 2 Chronicles 36:13 to the end of the book of Nehemiah. I highly recommend reading this and than compare it to what's written in Jeremiah 25.

It's well worth reading if you want the actual historic account and I promise you'll not find any similarities in the information written from 1 Chronicles 36:13 to the end of Nehemiah when compared to Jeremiah 25 except a 70 year period.

The reason why there are two 70 year periods in Babylonia is because God is currently chastening the Kingdom of Israel before He gathers them back to the holy land to be with the Kingdom of Judah. Just as God disciplined the descendants of Judah, Benjamin and Levi during the 1st Babylonian captivity that ended around 530 BC before He lure them back to Israel announcing the construction of the 2nd temple, God is repeating the same process with the descendants from the Kingdom of Israel. After 70 years, the construction of the 3rd temple will begin with the foundation. War will also break out in other parts of the Middle East where they reside. They will be forced to live their homes. Antisemitism will rise. Israel will open it's doors to welcome them. Their best alternative would be to go home to Israel after 2700 years since the Assyrian exile and help finish construction of the 3rd temple.

The first 70 years is in 2 Chronicles 36:21. This is the historic account of the descendants of Judah, Benjamin and Levi.

to fulfill the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremiah, until the land had enjoyed her Sabbaths. As long as she lay desolate she kept Sabbath, to fulfill seventy years.

The second 70 years is in Jeremiah 25:11-12. This is a prophecy about the descendants of the Kingdom of Israel. If you read verse 12, Jeremiah said God will punish the King of Babylon and that nation. This never happened following the 70 years when the Babylonian captivity ended in 530 BC.


In fact, the opposite happened as God blessed Cyrus who was the Babylonian king at that time after the 70 year capitivty and inspired him to build God's temple.


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Now if you read Jeremiah 25, it's about God and the tribulation after 70 years. It reveals God destroying all the Islamic countries throughout the
Middle East, even Israel, and the world. This never happened any time during and after the first Babylonian captivity.



Jeremiah 25 is one of six prophecies in the bible (OT) that literally tells you the tribulation will upon the world after 70 years.

It's 70 years (a Generation) from the budding of the Fig Tree (Israel 1948, Matthew 24:32-35) and 50 years (a Jubilee) from the Six-Day war (1967). Use the Jewish calendar, not the Gregorian.

You don't have to reply. I'm just letting everyone know, there's no similarities between Jeremiah 25 and the first Babylonian captivity, except a period of 70 years.








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AlasBabylon said:

@Psalm3704


If a new temple structure is built on the Temple Mount, it would be the fourth temple, not the third.

1st temple = Solomon's temple

2nd temple = Cyrus' decreed temple built after the return from Babylonian captivity.

3rd temple = Herod's temple built around the time of Christ. Herod totally tore down the 2nd temple, even removing the foundation stones and grading the land to rebuild his new 3rd temple. It was Herod's 3rd temple that Jesus said would be destroyed and it was in 70AD.

Speaking of another 70 years... it is interesting that Herod allied with Rome and conquered Jerusalem in 37BC. Rome declared Herod [who was Edomite, not Israelite] king of Judea. Herod murdered the Israelite royal heirs, totally destroyed the second temple and tried to murder God's Temple made without hands, the Christ child. Herod destroyed the last Kingdom of Israel and disinherited Israelites in their own land. Ironically, 37BC [date Herod conquered Jerusalem] to 33AD [likely date of Christ's crucifixion and resurrection] is about 70 years [not sure how the year zero figures into the math.]

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The construction of the 2nd temple began under the decree of King Cyrus and wasn't completely finished until several hundred years later under numerous renovations that lasted till the time of Herod and finally completed around 40 AD. It's the same temple but had to be rebuilt numerous times.

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I don't think it has any effect on prophecy at all. Israel says it's the capital-its the capital. Thinking God cares if we (the United States) recognizes that or not is to think the choice is ours and not God's. It's very USA centric and in a way puts the USA in God's role. It's that self righteousness and ego that has helped contribute to the mess in the Middle East.

The USA should have an embassy in Jerusalem because that is the primary destination of Americans traveling to Israel - Christian, Jewish, and Muslim Americans.

AlasBabylon said:

No that is not true.

King Cyrus decreed the second temple be built and King Darius finished the temple.

" ... And they builded, and finished it, according to the commandment of the God of Israel, and according to the commandment of Cyrus, and Darius, and Artaxerxes king of Persia. And this house was finished on the third day of the month Adar, which was in the sixth year of the reign of Darius the king."

Ezra 6:14-15

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I already know about Ezra 6:14-15. That was just the sanctuary that was completed. The actual temple as a whole continued with additional constructions adding walls, courtyards, gates and buildings and further expansions.

The actual year it was finally completed was 64 AD. I just wanna correct a mistake I made yesterday thinking around 40 AD.

AlasBabylon said:

Per Josephus [1st century Roman-Jewish historian], Herod totally tore down the second temple, removed the foundation stones and rebuilt a totally new temple, This was Herod's third temple.

" So Herod took away the old foundations, and laid others, and erected the temple upon them "

Antiquities of the Jews — Book XV Chapter 11 - 3

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No it's not a completely new temple. As I've said, the 2nd temple went through many reconstructions and renovations but even after Herod's work, it's not considered a 3rd temple. The foundation under the sanctuary was just elevated. Herod added additional foundations and increased the size of the whole temple. He did renovate the sanctuary but he did not build a completely new one.

In Herod's own words, he called it something to the extent of reconstruction and renovation project, not a new temple.


Construction and Rebuilding (Herod's Temple )

AND NOW YOU KNOW MORE

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Israel doesn't recognize the next Temple waiting to be built as a 4th Temple.

Sanhedrin to Trump-Putin: Fulfill Cyrus-like role in Jerusalem
With the two top world leaders supporting Jewish right to Jerusalem, Sanhedrin asks that they build Third Temple.
Sanhedrin to Trump-Putin: Fulfill Cyrus-like role in Jerusalem

Watch: Architectural Plans for Third Temple Have Begun
Watch: Architectural Plans for Third Temple Have Begun

FINALLY! Israel Officially Calling For Third Temple to Replace al-Aqsa Mosque!
FINALLY! Israel Officially Calling For Third Temple to Replace al-Aqsa Mosque!

The third Jewish Temple is coming to your Facebook feed
The third Jewish Temple is coming to your Facebook feed

Jewish Home MK calls for a Third Temple in Jerusalem
Jewish Home MK calls for a Third Temple in Jerusalem

Laying the groundwork for a Third Temple in Jerusalem
Laying the groundwork for a Third Temple in Jerusalem

5 Biggest Temple Stories of Year Prove Third Temple is Closer Than Ever as Yom Kippur Approaches
5 Biggest Temple Stories of Year Prove Third Temple is Closer Than Ever as Yom Kippur Approaches

Netanyahu Allies Donated to Groups Pushing for Third Temple
Netanyahu allies donated to groups pushing for Third Temple - Settlement Dollars



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Now if anyone on earth knows exactly which temple is next to be built, it would be the Temple Institute.


The Temple Institute: ~The Holy Temple in Jerusalem: Yesterday Tomorrow Today


The Temple Institute: Articles: Which Comes First, the Messiah or the Temple?


Because it's the Temple Institute that is making all the preparations getting everything ready for the third temple.

The Temple Institute Archives - Breaking Israel News | Latest News. Biblical Perspective.










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