Hello Keystone pipeline

Shiloh Raven · Jan 25, 2017

Arcangl86 said:
For those in support of this pipeline, why do you think it's a good thing?

I am not a supporter of KXL but I would like to comment on your post.

I wanted to say, as far as I am concerned, it is not a good thing. And here is why.

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Hank77 · Jan 25, 2017

Kiterius said:
The pipeline is not solely an American issue. To suggest that it is is but American arrogance.

It is being built on American soil where existing pipelines have already failed and cause water pollution and land pollution.

roamer_1 said:
Cheaper gas, more jobs, more refineries (which is even more jobs), and doing business with Canada instead of Arabs... It's all good.

Where are these new refineries being built?

roamer_1 · Jan 25, 2017

Hank77 said:
Where are these new refineries being built?

Dunno, but I have a buddy that is involved in design for four of them right in NoDak

Hammster · Jan 26, 2017

bobo_mcpherson said:
Because our American President promise greatness and bringing the jobs back to the USA. And the first step in doing that is helping to ensure a couple dozen temporary jobs are created in the USA and Canada's ability to sell extremely dirty, polluting and awful fuel on the global markets shall not be infringed!

Hallelujah!

All construction jobs are temporary, if done correctly.

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · Jan 26, 2017

I'm at a point, since this won't happen where I live. Why should I care about the possibility of leakage happening and contaminating my air or water. Now if it happens on Indian grounds. That's another issue.

tulc · Jan 26, 2017

could you list all the tribes who support the pipeline? :scratch:

tulc(would be interested in that information) :wave:

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN · Jan 26, 2017

Because it would be like the government screwing them again. Because Trump doesn't seem to care if he screws the Indians.

roamer_1 · Jan 26, 2017

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
Because it would be like the government screwing them again. Because Trump doesn't seem to care if he screws the Indians.

If they have to cross indian land, they will pay royalties to the tribe. That is a good thing for the indians.

roamer_1 · Jan 26, 2017

tulc said:
could you list all the tribes who support the pipeline?
tulc(would be interested in that information)

Beats me, don't care.

Paradoxum · Jan 26, 2017

GondwanaLand said:
You might have a point, if Keystone XL improved our energy security. But it doesn't.

Why the Keystone XL tar sands pipeline doesn't provide the U.S. with energy security

http://priceofoil.org/content/uploads/2011/10/Keystone-Energy-Security-Fact-Sheet-10-2011-1.pdf

So it can't help the US at all in a major war?

loveofourlord · Jan 26, 2017

Paradoxum said:
I'm not sure it's so bad. I'm liberal, but I think energy security is important.

How the heck is oil that america isn't going to likly see any drop of energy security?

loveofourlord · Jan 26, 2017

roamer_1 said:
Cheaper gas, more jobs, more refineries (which is even more jobs), and doing business with Canada instead of Arabs... It's all good.

again the oil isn't going to america, but OVER SEAS please get your facts in order.

Belk · Jan 26, 2017

roamer_1 said:
Beats me, don't care.

So it is good for the American Indians whether they like it or not?

Hank77 · Jan 26, 2017

roamer_1 said:
Dunno, but I have a buddy that is involved in design for four of them right in NoDak

Is he saying they will be built in North Dakota?

Paradoxum · Jan 26, 2017

loveofourlord said:
How the heck is oil that america isn't going to likly see any drop of energy security?

This oil can't go to American in a time of war?

roamer_1 · Jan 26, 2017

Belk said:
So it is good for the American Indians whether they like it or not?

If it's going through their land, it is going through their land... Just like a freeway, or a canal, or any other big infrastructure project. That;s what eminent domain is for. Being sovereign, unlike you or me, the tribe will get royalties.

roamer_1 · Jan 26, 2017

Hank77 said:
Is he saying they will be built in North Dakota?

Yes, that's what they are being designed for... Whether they get built or not is another thing.

Hank77 · Jan 26, 2017

roamer_1 said:
Riiight... Because Lord knows, them injuns don't need no royalties.

What makes you think they will get royalties. It isn't being retrieved from their land.

loveofourlord · Jan 26, 2017

Paradoxum said:
This oil can't go to American in a time of war?

what obligation do they have to do it? It's owned by other countries, thats the probolem with these lies that get spread, it creates a false narrative.

roamer_1 · Jan 26, 2017

loveofourlord said:
again the oil isn't going to america, but OVER SEAS please get your facts in order.

I don't buy it.

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