Could Jesus have caught an infectious disease?

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Jason: "Oh, and Jesus was not tempted internally by sin. He was tempted in all points like us externally. For it would be impossible for Jesus to be allured by sin because He is God."

Your distinction between internal and external temptation is bogus: it assumes that 2 distinct "persons" inhabiting Jesus' body--one human and the other divine. But the incarnate Jesus is one "person" with one will and one mind. You don't seem to grasp the significance of the divine kenosis: "He emptied Himself" of all His divine prerogatives to become fully human (Philippians 2:6-7). That is why He needed to receive the Holy Spirit at His baptism and had no unique divine power prior to that.

Second, it is why His own family rejects His "Messiah act" during His public ministry. They saw nothing special to warrant such claims and Jesus didn't (I think, couldn't) prevent Joseph from dying. Third, it is why Jesus "grew in favor with God (Luke 2:52)." Jesus can't grow in favor unless there was a prior time in which He was less in favor with God.
 
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With our superior scientific knowledge about how leprosy actually works it would be easy to sneer at the apparent ignorance, exaggeration and fear of the people of that era. But it seems to me that God used these laws to protect his people from a horrifying disease at a time when there was no cure. Just as it was loving to exclude for a season it was also loving to model a path of healing and reconciliation long before that became technically feasible.

But Now even if God had not made large swathes of the law redundant by Christs life these leprosy laws would be overthrown by technological advances in the last 2 centuries. Although it still takes years to fully cure people. Jesus did it with a touch.


But Jesus also addressed an issue to do with impurity and its relationship to this disease. People were excluded from a theocratic community on the grounds that their leprosy was a symptom of a deeper impurity, identified by priests who would also police the casting out of such people. Was it Jesus's purity that guaranteed his immunity or his incarnate status or his perfect alignment with Gods purpose?
No one is sneering at the apparent ignorance of anyone. I actually applaud Greco-Roman Medicine which was surprisingly advanced. I merely explained why it is medically unlikely Jesus or his disciples would have caught leprosy.

I don't think Jesus more immune than any other first century man, for that is what he was - a Man. I see no evidence that His earthly body was somehow Unfallen either. He had the exact same pitiable body we have, with its lusts, flaws and problems. I see no scriptural reason to apply some Edenic standard to His body.

To me this is just denial of His humanity. Jesus was fully human so that He could overcome those limitations in order that we might as well, with His help. Fully man and fully God does not allow a conception of Jesus as above certain human travails like illness, in my opinion.
Nothing shows strength of character and compassion so much as fighting through an illness, of remaining friendly and open when you are feeling under the weather. I think a Jesus with an Unfallen body would essentially be imperfect as Atonement for man.
 
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i am doing a sermon on Jesus healing a leper. It struck me that being in proximity to a person with Hansens disease ( in an age where there was no cure) carried the risk of catching it. Apparently 95% of people are immune from the disease but Jesus sent out disciples to cure leprosy also. Were they chosen for being immune or supernaturally protected?

So comes the question:

Could Jesus have caught a disease he was able to heal a person of? Was it his divine nature that innoculated him in which case did he fully experience being human. Or was it his superior discernment about how to engage with sick people?

Could Jesus have gotten sick at all? Do you think Jesus ever had a cold?

This is a question that we cannot answer. We can speculate, and believers had speculated both possibilities. The way to settle such a question is to make the test and see what happens. We can't make the test. So we can't settle the question.

But as long as we are speculating, we can take note that there are some people who go through their whole life with never a day of illness. Albert Schweitzer was said to be such a one until at age 80 he caught a cold and died.
 
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It seems you are referring to His glorified body. The one He received after resurrection. His first body was human like ours.

Except he had no sin in him. One of the biblical contentions that rubs against the grain of the modern era is that it is impurity that is the root of sickness. Thus you could heal leprosy and still not deal with the root from which it sprang. If Jesus never sinned and if his own human nature continually cohabited in the closest possible union with the Divine how could sickness survive in him? Adam also was never sick. When he fell he later died of natural causes. It is the wages of sin that are death.
 
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Jesus was prone to all of the non-culpable faults of any man. However, because He is God, if He did catch a disease, He could have healed Himself immediately.

As far as a cold, yeah, he could catch one, but again, He could heal Himself right away.

But I'm sure when He was a little boy, He fell down, skinned His knee, and ran crying to Mary for comfort.

Our DNA code is amazing and adapts to all sorts of things. If Adam was created to never die and died only cause he fell the question follows did his code change or did it now respond to his changed relationship with God in a new way dealing with viral or bacterial invasions. In a sense our DNA responds according to our relationship with its maker. If we deserve to die we do, if we deserve to get sick then that sickness is permitted. It is like a computer built to function perfectly but now given the instruction to allow imperfection and invaders to do damage. With original sin now having compromised our OS to the point where it is full of viruses we now even die for reasons we our selves are not even responsible for. People assume that to be human is to be sick and die but we were not created like that and so it is not Docetism to suggest that Christ was not susceptible to sickness. If he did get sick then why doesn't the bible describe how he dealt with that. They had access to Mary and her stories so we should have some clue as to this if it occurred.

There are early stories from Mark and in the church in Acts of people being bitten by poisonous snakes and continuing to live. That the poison should kill but does not is the interesting fact here.
 
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Fully man and fully God does not allow a conception of Jesus as above certain human travails like illness, in my opinion.
Nothing shows strength of character and compassion so much as fighting through an illness, of remaining friendly and open when you are feeling under the weather. I think a Jesus with an Unfallen body would essentially be imperfect as Atonement for man.

How can a body that was not corrupted in any way by disease not be a fitting sacrifice. Hebrews and Leviticus make clear that a perfect sacrifice was required and that there would be no atonement without that.

Christs courage was to limit himself in the ways he chose to and to feel the burdens of our humanity as he did and in the case of floggings for example its pain. It was to oppose in fragile human form the bullies and leaders of his age. It was to even suffer death on our behalf.

His compassion is what brought him here in the first place and which overflowed in his many healings and ultimately in the cross itself.
 
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How can a body that was not corrupted in any way by disease not be a fitting sacrifice. Hebrews and Leviticus make clear that a perfect sacrifice was required and that there would be no atonement without that.

Christs courage was to limit himself in the ways he chose to and to feel the burdens of our humanity as he did and in the case of floggings for example its pain. It was to oppose in fragile human form the bullies and leaders of his age. It was to even suffer death on our behalf.

His compassion is what brought him here in the first place and which overflowed in his many healings and ultimately in the cross itself.
A perfect body is paradoxically imperfect. For then He would not be fully human, fully one of us. We shall have to agree to disagree.

Your contention that sin somehow is responsible for illness I personally find abhorrent though, but I am a doctor. God tests us in our illnesses as He tests us in our daily life. I don't think this specifically is somehow more sin-related. Sin caused the world to become fallen and imperfect, but I see no reason for considering it to still be the root thereof.
As such Jesus could and in my mind should have been susceptible to disease. A perfect lamb was still a lamb, not some heavenly creature. It is part and parcell of life in our fallen world. Regardless, we have no scriptural support for Jesus being immune to disease nor the reverse that is not ambigious, so this is largely a moot discussion at this point between you and I.
 
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Two things prevented it:
His bodily perfection and the protection of his heavenly Father.

Yes, he was fully human because he was the physical equivalent of Adam as Adam was originally created, flawless. Adam began became susceptible to disease AFTER the fall. Jesus never suffered that fall from grace and so retained his perfection.

1 Corinthians 15:45
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So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

This is, more-or-less the heresy known as aphthartodocetism, the belief that Jesus' body was incorruptible prior to His resurrection. It's little more than Diet Docetism, fewer calories perhaps, but just as bad.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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This is, more-or-less the heresy known as aphthartodocetism, the belief that Jesus' body was incorruptible prior to His resurrection. It's little more than Diet Docetism, fewer calories perhaps, but just as bad.

-CryptoLutheran
So Jesus being perfect of body and mind is a heresy? Well, as they say, one man's food is another man's poison.

1 Peter 1:19
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but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. Me? I prefer top stick with what the scriptures tell me.
 
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Except he had no sin in him. One of the biblical contentions that rubs against the grain of the modern era is that it is impurity that is the root of sickness. Thus you could heal leprosy and still not deal with the root from which it sprang. If Jesus never sinned and if his own human nature continually cohabited in the closest possible union with the Divine how could sickness survive in him? Adam also was never sick. When he fell he later died of natural causes. It is the wages of sin that are death.
I think the point some posters are trying to make is that Jesus was in a fallen human body, not pre-fallen Adamic body.

But as one poster said, it is speculation either way.
 
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So Jesus being perfect of body and mind is a heresy? Well, as they say, one man's food is another man's poison.

Jesus was indeed perfect. That doesn't stop the fact that He was completely human just as we are--with all the fragility and weakness that entails. Jesus didn't become something other than what we are, the Word became flesh and became what we are. The only difference is that Jesus was without sin.

When Jesus was nailed to the cross, He bled. When the soldier stuck the spear in His side, it pierced Him, He felt pain, and blood and bodily fluids flowed from the wound. To say He couldn't cough, sneeze, stub His toe, get sick etc is to say that Jesus' humanity was, in some sense, just for show. It is in His rising from the dead that He glorifies human nature, transforming it, healing it, restoring it--the risen Christ was incorruptible, He could not die, He was immortal--it is that glorious, resurrected state that we hope for, it is in that resurrected, glorious state that we read in the Apocalypse that, in the Age to Come, God wipes away every tear from our eyes, there is no more sorrow, death, or pain in that world.

But the Logos became flesh, He became one of us. St. Paul says He came "in the likeness of sinful flesh", He did not come in some other way, but came as one of us, was one of us, and by His perfect obedience, by His righteousness, by His death, and by His resurrection He has restored what was lost in the Fall, He has overcome sin, death, and hell for our sake. What the first Adam lost by sin, the second Adam has restored by His obedience. He is not the second Adam because God was simply "starting over", but coming as one of us He undid what Adam had done, and in Him has rescued the entire human race, uniting us to Himself, and presenting us before God in Himself as the righteous of God, justified, and having hope of the glory to come which is ours in Him, according to His sake, as the gift of God by grace.

Aphthartodocetism denies this, it presents an alien Christ, and an alien Christ is no redeemer for the world. The Incarnation is about God become man, one of us, in the lowliness and humility and the weakness of what we are, as we are, in order to redeem and rescue us and bring us to Himself and to pass us from death to life, and to that future glory.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I guess it's only speculation as to whether Jesus ever contracted the common cold or had to use medicine. My guess is that he did. I mean, it only makes sense. If he had to be born in a stable and nursed by a mother, then why would he not also have to get sick like every other human being? (all evidence seems to be that getting sick is part of developing a normal immune system, btw).
 
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Jesus was indeed perfect. That doesn't stop the fact that He was completely human just as we are--with all the fragility and weakness that entails. Jesus didn't become something other than what we are, the Word became flesh and became what we are. The only difference is that Jesus was without sin.

When Jesus was nailed to the cross, He bled. When the soldier stuck the spear in His side, it pierced Him, He felt pain, and blood and bodily fluids flowed from the wound. To say He couldn't cough, sneeze, stub His toe, get sick etc is to say that Jesus' humanity was, in some sense, just for show. It is in His rising from the dead that He glorifies human nature, transforming it, healing it, restoring it--the risen Christ was incorruptible, He could not die, He was immortal--it is that glorious, resurrected state that we hope for, it is in that resurrected, glorious state that we read in the Apocalypse that, in the Age to Come, God wipes away every tear from our eyes, there is no more sorrow, death, or pain in that world.

But the Logos became flesh, He became one of us. St. Paul says He came "in the likeness of sinful flesh", He did not come in some other way, but came as one of us, was one of us, and by His perfect obedience, by His righteousness, by His death, and by His resurrection He has restored what was lost in the Fall, He has overcome sin, death, and hell for our sake. What the first Adam lost by sin, the second Adam has restored by His obedience. He is not the second Adam because God was simply "starting over", but coming as one of us He undid what Adam had done, and in Him has rescued the entire human race, uniting us to Himself, and presenting us before God in Himself as the righteous of God, justified, and having hope of the glory to come which is ours in Him, according to His sake, as the gift of God by grace.

Aphthartodocetism denies this, it presents an alien Christ, and an alien Christ is no redeemer for the world. The Incarnation is about God become man, one of us, in the lowliness and humility and the weakness of what we are, as we are, in order to redeem and rescue us and bring us to Himself and to pass us from death to life, and to that future glory.

-CryptoLutheran

Jesus did not need to be an alien in order to die for our sins. He just needed to be the equivalent of a perfect Adam since Adam lost human perfection for us and sold us into sin. Jesus the last Adam would buy us out of that bondage to sin by providing a ransom sacrifice, his perfect human life on our behalf.

Anything less would have been an underpayment. Anything more would have been an overpayment for our sins. If indeed Jesus had been fully human in the fallen sense, as we all are, then he would not have been able to die for OUR sins. He would have been paying for his own.

Had he shared our fallen condition then he would have merited death himself since the wages of sin are death as Paul pointed out and as Genesis makes absolutely clear. So the requirement for payment of our sins was innocence of sin.

A humanly imperfect, fallen Jesus would simply have been unqualified to offer that payment of a Ransom for others. Blamelessness was required and physical spotlessness in all sense of the word was a prerequisite. That's why he is described as spotless and without a blemish. That's why the Passover Lamb which represented him prophetically had also to be unblemished.


John 1:29 (NKJV)
The Lamb of God
29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
 
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I guess it's only speculation as to whether Jesus ever contracted the common cold or had to use medicine. My guess is that he did. I mean, it only makes sense. If he had to be born in a stable and nursed by a mother, then why would he not also have to get sick like every other human being? (all evidence seems to be that getting sick is part of developing a normal immune system, btw).
Because he Wasn't like every other common human being-he was the Son of God in human perfect form. That is basic Christian theology.
 
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Because he Wasn't like every other common human being-he was the Son of God in human perfect form. That is basic Christian theology.

No, Christian theology says that Jesus Christ is both God and man; truly God and truly human, in perfect union. Not just in human form, but actually human.

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No, Christian theology says that Jesus Christ is both God and man; truly God and truly human, in perfect union. Not just in human form, but actually human.

-CryptoLutheran
Then you are contradicting yourself even more than before.
 
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Because he Wasn't like every other common human being-he was the Son of God in human perfect form. That is basic Christian theology.
Didn't you previously argue for Arianism or semi-Arianism in another thread? Those aren't basic Christian theology.
 
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Jesus did not need to be an alien in order to die for our sins. He just needed to be the equivalent of a perfect Adam since Adam lost human perfection for us and sold us into sin. Jesus the last Adam would buy us out of that bondage to sin by providing a ransom sacrifice, his perfect human life on our behalf.

Anything less would have been an underpayment. Anything more would have been an overpayment for our sins. If indeed Jesus had been fully human in the fallen sense, as we all are, then he would not have been able to die for OUR sins. He would have been paying for his own.

Had he shared our fallen condition then he would have merited death himself since the wages of sin are death as Paul pointed out and as Genesis makes absolutely clear. So the requirement for payment of our sins was innocence of sin.

A humanly imperfect, fallen Jesus would simply have been unqualified to offer that payment of a Ransom for others. Blamelessness was required and physical spotlessness in all sense of the word was a prerequisite. That's why he is described as spotless and without a blemish. That's why the Passover Lamb which represented him prophetically had also to be unblemished.


John 1:29 (NKJV)
The Lamb of God
29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
Spotlessness of the lamb was a picture of sinlessness. The sacrificial animals were not beings able to sin, therefore their perfection had to be expressed in another way- physical perfection.

I don't think any of the posters are insinuating that Christ was imperfect in the area of sin. He was sinless and spotless. Those of us who believe He was in a fallen body, are not doubting His sinless perfection.

Many people interpret "the wages of sin are death" to be spiritual death- not physical.
 
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I’d like to disagree with some of my esteemed colleagues. I do agree that Jesus’ body was the same as ours, and so in principle he was subject to disease, just as we all are. To maintain otherwise is heresy.

But that doesn’t answer the question as to whether he actually got sick. I’m going to claim that if you had asked Luke that question, he would probably have said no, at least after his Baptism by John, based on Luke 7:18 ff.

Let me explain. Are the miracles just proofs of his divinity and authority? I don’t think that’s a proper reading of Synoptic theology. Rather, I think the healings are a sign of the presence of the Kingdom, which Jesus is bringing.

Jesus’ answer echoes OT prophetic texts about the end times, most clearly Is 61:1, but the commentary I’m looking at also cites 29:18 and 35:5. In the last days everyone will be healed. But Jesus is bringing the last day now. Otherwise his citation of those texts makes no sense. The healings aren’t just “miracles,” but are the opening of the eyes of the blind that was to come at the Day of the Lord, and are signs that it is, although in a hidden manner, present now.

As Paul noted, we are all simul justus et peccator. I.e. the Kingdom is only partly present with us. But this isn’t true of Jesus in the same way. I think it’s reasonable to suggest that as the embodiment of the Kingdom, he wouldn’t be sick.

You can certainly argue, as I think Viacrucis has suggested, that before his resurrection Jesus doesn’t show everything that members of the Kingdom will experience in eternity. Maybe that includes illness. But I think Jesus saw healing as a sign of the presence of the Kingdom now, and that this implies that Jesus himself wouldn’t have gotten sick.
 
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Jason0047 said:
"Oh, and Jesus was not tempted internally by sin. He was tempted in all points like us externally. For it would be impossible for Jesus to be allured by sin because He is God."
Your distinction between internal and external temptation is bogus: it assumes that 2 distinct "persons" inhabiting Jesus' body--one human and the other divine.

No. That is not what I believe. Nowhere did I say anything like that. I said the exact opposite actually. I said, I quote:

"He quoted a Psalm of David (Psalms 22) not because He was speaking from some human side of Himself. The body was just a shell. For He said so Himself. It was a temple. Jesus was speaking as God but limited in knowledge (at times) because His divine attribute of Omniscience was suppressed in the Incarnation." ~ Jason​

I also said, I quote:

"So Jesus is God;
Not just in name, but in power, too. Yes, Jesus was also a flesh and blood man. But Jesus did not have a created soul like you and me. His soul is 100% God (a part of the Trinity) and eternal that was uncreated." ~ Jason.​

So no. I do not believe two distinct persons were inhabiting Jesus (with one being human and one being divine). I believe there is ONE mind and ONE person of Jesus Christ and that it was SOLEY divine and ETERNAL. I am merely saying that the wording in Hebrews 4:15 and Hebrews 2:18 is speaking of "temptation" (in an external sense) by the one who was tempting him. For example: If Rick walked into a park and a thief came up to him with some hot watches to sell (with Rick having zero interest in buying them because he knows they are most likely stolen), Rick can then say this to his fellow co-workers the next day, "Yeah, some guy tempted me to buy some hot watches in the park yesterday." Bob, a fellow co-worker said to Rick, "What did you do? Rick replied, "I said, No thank you." Bob said, "That is good." Rick replied, "Yeah, I had zero interest in buying from him because they were most likely stolen."

Okay. So was Rick tempted? Yes, and no.
Yes, Rick was tempted externally by his temptor (i.e. the thief).
Yet, this would also be a "no" because Rick was not tempted internally himself in any way by the thief's proposition.

The Scriptures say,
"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: (James 1:13).

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45:18, Isaiah 44:24, Isaiah 42:5. Jesus is God
16. Jesus also made the world - John 1:10. Jesus is God - Isaiah 44:18
17. Jesus created all things for HIMSELF - Colossians 1:16, Proverbs 16:4(Jesus is God)
18. By Jesus all things consist - Colossians 1:17
19. Jesus upholds all things - Hebrews 1:3
20. Jesus is before all things - Colossians 1:17
21. Jesus rules heaven and earth - Matthew 28:18. Jesus is God - II Chronicles 29:11
22. Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath - Mark 2:28, Luke 6:5
23. Jesus called Himself the Great "I AM" - John 8:58, John 8:24...a quote from Exodus 3:14
24. In the body of Jesus dwells the fullness of the Godhead - Colossians 2:9
25. The Father, Son and Holy Ghost are THREE and they are ONE - I John 5:7
26. And this is all why Jesus is EQUAL WITH GOD - Philippians 2:6
27. Jesus was "God manifest in the flesh" - I Timothy 3:16
28. God was in Christ - Galatians 3:17, II Corinthians 5:19
29. Jesus is the Power of God and the Wisdom of God - I Corinthians 1:24
30. Jesus "only" hath immortality - I Timothy 6:16
31. Jesus is Lord of the living and the dead - Romans 14:9
32. Jesus is called the Saviour - Luke 2:11, Titus 1:4, Titus 2:13, Titus 3:3, II Peter 1:1, II Peter 1:11, II Peter 2:20, II Peter 3:18, I John
4:14
33. Only Jehovah God alone is the Saviour - Isaiah 43:11, Isaiah 45:15 , Hosea 13:4, I Timothy 2:2, Jude 1:25...that means Jesus is God.
34. Jesus ALONE is the Great Judge - John 5:22. The Judge is God - Hebrews 12:23, Revelation 18:8, Hebrews 13:4, Romans 2:3,5
Jesus is God. All the verses in the Bible that talk about God being the Judge refer to Jesus, since He alone judges. The Father
judges no man - John 5:22.
35. Jesus has the keys of hell and of death - Revelation 1:18. The one that can cast into hell is to be FEARED - Matthew 10:28, Luke
12:5 Only God is to be feared - Rev 14:7
36. Jesus is from EVERLASTING - Micah 5:2, Isaiah 9:6
37. Jesus has NO BEGINNING of days - Hebrews 7:3
38. Jesus is the SAME, yesterday, today and forever - Hebrews 13:8. A quote from Psalm 102:27. Jesus is God.
39. Jesus' is in the midst or the center of the throne of God - Rev 1:6
40. Jesus has the Greatest Name above every name ever named - Philippians 2:9
41. Jesus' name is the Greatest in the world to come as well - Ephesians 1:21
42. And it is before name of JESUS, not any other name including Jehovah, that the peoples of the earth and heaven and bowing before
- Philippians 2:10. Jesus is God - Isaiah 45:22-23
43. Only by the name JESUS can one be saved - Acts 4:10-12
44. Jesus is called the Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:11
45. Jesus who is the Alpha and Omega is the ALMIGHTY - Revelation 1:7-8
46. Jesus is called the King of kings - I Timothy 6:15. Jesus is the King - Zechariah 9:9. The King is God - I Timothy 1:17. Jesus is God
47. Jesus is called Lord of lords - I Timothy 6:15. God is called Lord of lords - Deut 10:17. Jesus is God
48. Christ is called the ROCK - I Corinthians 10:4. That is who Israel followed. The ROCK who Israel followed was GOD - Deut 32:3-4.
God is the Rock - Psalm 18:2 and only God is the Rock - Psalm 18:31. Christ is God.
49. Jesus calls Himself the FIRST AND THE LAST - Revelation 1:11,17. Only GOD is the FIRST AND THE LAST - Isaiah 44:6, Isaiah
48:12. Jesus is God.
50. Jesus knows all things (OMNIPOTENT) - John 2:24-25, John 4:29, John 6:64, John 16:30
51. Jesus is OMNIPRESENT - Matthew 18:20, Matthew 28:20
52. Jesus' body fills all (is omnipresent) - Ephesians 1:23
53. Jesus knows the hearts of men - Revelation 2:23
54. Jesus dwells in the hearts - Ephesians 3:17
55. And "liveth" in the believers - Galatians 2:20
56. Jesus knows the thoughts of men - Matthew 9:4, Luke 6:8
57. And Jesus will judge the "secrets" of men - Romans 2:16
58. God shed His blood - Acts 20:28
59. The cross is the "power of God" - I Corinthians 1:17-18
60. Jesus called the Kingdom of God His Kingdom - John 18:36
61. Jesus is the "Deliverer" of the believers from the wrath of God - I Thessalonians 1:10, Romans 11:26. Only God is the Deliverer from
the wrath of God - II Corinthians 1:9-10
62. In Jesus' name we TRUST - Ephesians 1:12-13, Matthew 12:21, Philippians 2:19. Only in God do we trust - Psalm 4:5, 7:1, 31:1,
73:28, Isaiah 26:4. Jesus is God.
63. Jesus is the TRUTH - John 14:6. Jesus is God - Psalm 31:5
64. Jesus sent the prophets - Matthew 23:34...God sent the prophets - Jeremiah 7:25. Jesus is God who sent the prophets.
65. Jesus is the Stone of stumbling - I Peter 2:8. A prophesy from Isaiah 8:13-14. God is the stone of stumbling. Jesus is God.
66. God is the fountain of living waters - Jeremiah 17:13....Jesus is the fountain of living waters - John 4:10-14
67. Jesus brings reward to the wicked for their works - Matthew 16:27. Jesus is God - Psalm 54:4-5, II Samuel 3:39.
68. The reward of salvation is "with Jesus" - Revelation 22:12. Jesus is God - Isaiah 62:11, Isaiah 40:10
69. Jesus gave power to His people - Luke 9:1. Jesus is God - Psalm 68:35
70. Jesus is called the HOLY ONE - Acts 3:14. Jesus is God - Isaiah 30:15, Isaiah 40:25, Isaiah 41:14, Isaiah 43:15
71. Jesus is the light - John 8:12. Jesus is God - Psalm 27:1
72. Jesus is the Husband of believers - Revelation 19:7,9, 21:2, 21:9. Jesus is God - Isaiah 54:5
73. Jesus gives us rest - Matthew 11:28. Jesus is God - Exodus 33:14
74. Jesus gathers the sheep - John 10:16. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 34:11
75. Jesus seeks and saves that which is lost - Luke 19:10. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 34:16
76. Jesus is the Shepherd - John 10:11,14. Jesus is God - Psalm 23:1
77. Jesus feeds the people and causes them to sit down - Mark 8:5-10, Matthew 14:19-21. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 34:15
78. The blood of Jesus cleanses us from sin - I John 1:7. God cleanses from sin - Psalm 51:2, Ezekiel 36:25.. Jesus is God
79. Redemption is from Jesus Christ - Romans 3:24, Colossians 1:14. Redemption is from God - Psalm 130:7. Jesus is God
80. Christ is the Redeemer - Galatians 4:5, Galatians 3:13, Revelation 5:9, Titus 2:14. God is the Redeemer - Jeremiah 31:11, Isaiah
41:14, Isaiah 44:22, Isaiah 44:6, Isaiah 44:24. Jesus is God
81. Jesus wrote new commandments with His finger - John 8:5-9. This is to show that He is God who wrote the 10 commandments with
His finger - Exodus 31:18
82. The Bible declares God. That God is Jesus who is written in all the scriptures - Luke 24:27, Luke 24:44, John 5:39, John 5:46
83. ALL things are by Jesus - I Corinthians 8:6
84. John the Baptist, the voice in the wilderness prepared the coming of the Lord - Matthew 3:3. A quote from Isaiah 40:3...He prepared
the coming of Jehovah God!!!!
85. Jesus forgave sin - Matthew 9:2, Mark 2:5....and only GOD can forgive sins - Mark 2:7. Only God can forgive sin where they are
atoned for it. Jesus is God.
86. Jesus forgave sins and healed diseases - Matthew 9:6. Only God can do that - Psalm 103:3
87. Jesus calmed the storm - Matthew 8:26...Only God can - Psalm 107:25
88. God was pierced - Zechariah 12:10...quoted again in John 19:37. Jesus is God
89. God was priced at 30 pieces of silver - Zechariah 11:12-13...quoted again in Matthew 27:9....Jesus is God.
90. Jesus returns again with His saints - I Thess. 3:13. A fulfillment of Zechariah 14:5 that says GOD will come with His saints. Jesus is
God.
91. The Jews wanted Jesus killed for the crime of Blasphemy - Matthew 26:65. In their minds He claimed to be God - John 10:33, and
Equal with God - John 5:18 and forgave as only God can do - Mark 2:7, Luke 5:21...that was blasphemy is their eyes - Mark 2:7,
Luke 5:21. Jesus by His words and actions claimed to be God...and that is why He was found guilty by the Jews of blasphemy.
92. Jesus raised Himself from the dead - John 2:19-21. John 10:17-18
93. Jesus will raise all the dead - John 6:39-40,44. God raises the dead both physically and spiritually - Ezekiel 37:12-14. Jesus is God
94. The Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ are one and the same. Christ is God - Romans 8:9
95. Jesus quickens (which means to make alive) - John 5:21. Only God can make someone alive - Ezekiel 37:5-6,9. Only God can
quicken - Psalm 80:18. Jesus is God.
96. One cannot serve God and mammon - Matthew 6:24. Only God is to be served - Romans 1:9. The One we serve is Jesus Christ -
Colossians 3:24.
97. Jesus is the one who "justifies" - Galatians 2:17. ONLY GOD can justifieth - Romans 8:33. Jesus is God.
98. Jesus "reveals" truth - Luke 10:22, Matthew 11:27. Only GOD can reveal truth - Philippians 3:15, I Corinthians 2:10. Jesus is God.
99. God will not share His glory with another - Isaiah 42:8, 48:11. But the Father glorifies the Son - John 17:1,5, John 12:23, John 13:31-
32. Jesus is God and He is ONE with the Father.
100. ONLY in the name of JESUS is their salvation. There is salvation is NONE OTHER - Acts 4:10-12, II Timothy 2:10. And salvation
belongs to GOD - Psalm 3:8, Jonah 2:9, Lamentations 3:26, Isaiah 52:10, Psalm 51:14. Since only in the name of Jesus is there
salvation and salvation belongs to God, that simply means Jesus is God.
101. Jesus chooses the elect - John 15:16. Jesus is God - I Thess. 2:13, I Cor. 1:27
102. Men are Jesus' disciples - John 13:35, John 15:8. Jesus is God - Isaiah 8:16
103. Jesus' voice is the sound of many waters - Revelation 1:15. Jesus is Almighty God - Ezekiel 43:2.
104. Jesus' feet are like fine brass - Revelation 1:15. Jesus is God - Ezekiel 1:7, Ezekiel 1:28
105. Jesus' name is the Word of God - Revelation 19:13
106. All grace comes from God - I Peter 5:10. Jesus is that God where all grace comes from - Rev 22:21, Romans 16:20, I Thess. 5:28,
II Thess. 3:18
107. Jesus comes with clouds - Rev 1:7, Matthew 24:30 - Jesus is God - Isaiah 19:1, Jeremiah 4:13, Numbers 11:25
108. Jesus is called God - John 1:1, Hebrews 1:8
109. Jesus is called The Great God - Titus 2:13
110. Jesus is called The Mighty God - Isaiah 9:6
111. Jesus is called The True God - I John 5:20
112. Jesus is "God with us" - Matthew 1:21
113. Jesus is called "My God" - John 20:28. Since there is "no other God" - Isaiah 45:5,21-22..that means Jesus is that God.
114. Jesus is called "our hope" - I Timothy 1:1. We hope in Jesus - I Cor. 15:19. We are to only hope in God - I Peter 1:21, Psalm 38:15.
Jesus is God.
115. Christ is our life - Colossians 3:4. Jesus is God - Psalm 42:8
116. Jesus is called Faithful - Revelation 19:11. Jesus is God - Deut 7:9
117. Jesus is called True - Revelation 19:11. Jesus is God - Romans 3:4
118. Israel temped Christ - I Corinthians 10:9. Jesus is God - Deut 6:16, Numbers 14:22.
119. Christ sent serpents and destroyed Israel - I Cor 10:9. Jesus is God - Numbers 21:6-7
120. Jesus rebukes and chastens - Revelation 3:19 - Jesus is God - Hebrews 12:5-7, Proverbs 3:11-12.
121. Jesus is the Author and Finisher of faith - Hebrews 12:2
122. God said "Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness" - Genesis 1:26. The plurality refers to the Trinity. This is not talking
about the angels or heavenly host. Angels cannot create life. Secondly, nowhere is it indicated that angels are made in the image of
God. Third, there is no indication that mankind is created in the image of angels.
123. The plurality of the Trinity is also referred to in Genesis 3:22 and Isaiah 6:8. Jesus is God.
124. Before Jesus became man, He had glory with the Father before the world was - John 17:5
125. All things are given into Jesus' hand - John 3:35
126. Jesus is described as "WHICH WAS" dead, and "IS" alive - Revelation 2:8. The one who "which was" and "which is" is Almighty
God - Revelation 4:8, Revelation 1:8. Jesus is God.
127. The "Great Day" of the Wrath of the Lamb - Revelation 6:16-17 is the "Great Day" of God Almighty - Revelation 16:14. Jesus is the
Lamb who is God Almighty.
128. Jesus is the King - I Timothy 6:15, John 18:37. Jesus is the King who is called the "only wise God" - I Timothy 1:17
129. Jesus is called the "Just One" - Acts 22:14. Jesus is God - Isaiah 45:21
130. Jesus "gives" repentance - Acts 5:31, Acts 3:26. Jesus is God - II Timothy 2:25
131. Jesus reconciled all things to Himself - Colossians 1:20. Jesus is God - Romans 5:18-19
132. Jesus brings Judgment on the churches in Revelation 2 and 3. Jesus is God - Hebrews 10:30, Deuteronomy 32:35-36
133. God has a Father - Revelation 1:6. That God is Jesus Christ.
134. Jesus stilled the waves and rules the sea- Matthew 8:26-27, Mark 4:39-41. Jesus is God - Psalm 89:8-9
135. Jesus has eyes that are sent forth into all the earth - Revelation 5:6 - Jesus is God - II Chronicles 16:9
136. To know the love of Christ is to be filled with the fulness of God - Ephesians 3:19
137. Christ strengthens the believers - Philippians 4:13. Christ is God - Isaiah 40:29, Isaiah 41:10
138. In Christ's presence is fullness of joy - John 15:11. Jesus is God - Psalm 16:11
139. To see Jesus is to see the Father and to hate Jesus is to hate the Father as well - John 15:24, John 15:23
140. Jesus turns the water into wine - John 2:7-11. A creative act to show that Jesus is Creator God.
141. Jesus walks on water - John 6:19, Matthew 14:26, Mark 6:48 - Jesus is God - Psalm 93:4, Psalm 95:5, Psalm 72:8, Job 9:8
142. Jesus causes the blind to see - Matthew 9:27-30, Matthew 11:5, Mark 8:22-26, Mark 10:51-52. Jesus is God - Psalm 146:8, Isaiah
35:4-5
143. Jesus causes the deaf to hear - Matthew 11:5, Mark 7:32, Mark 7:37 - Jesus is God - Isaiah 35:4-5, Isaiah 43:7-8
144. Jesus causes the dumb to speak - Matthew 9:32-33, Matt 15:31, Mark 7:37, Luke 11:14. Jesus is God - Isaiah 36:6, Ezekiel 24:27,
Ezekiel 33:22
145. Jesus causes the lame to walk - Matthew 11:5, Mark 2:11, Luke 7:22 - Jesus is God - Isaiah 35:6
146. Jesus' face shines as the sun - Matthew 17:2. Jesus is God - Psalm 84:11, Malachi 4:2
147. Jesus will inherit all nations - Psalm 2:7-8. Jesus is God - Psalm 82:8
148. Jesus will rule all nations with a rod of iron - Revelation 12:5. Jesus is God - Isaiah 14:5-6
149. Jesus will smite all nations with a rod or iron. He is the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God - Revelation 19:15. He is Almighty
God who brings wrath.
150. Jesus and His Father established the ends of the earth - Proverbs 30:4
151. Jesus was without sin - II Corinthians 5:21, Hebrews 4:15, I Peter 2:22. Only God is without sin - Deuteronomy 32:4. Jesus is God
152. Jesus is ABOVE ALL - John 3:31
153. Jesus is GOD OVER ALL - Romans 9:5
154. Jesus is LORD OF ALL - Acts 10:36
155. The Lord God sent His angel to John - Rev 22:6. It is Jesus that sent His angel - Rev 22:16. Jesus is the Lord God.
156. Jesus is called the "Lord of Glory" - I Corinthians 2:8. Jesus is YHWH God - Psalm 24:8-10
157. Jesus gets glory now and forever - II Peter 3:18
158. The Father calls Jesus "LORD" who made heaven and earth - Hebrews 1:10
159. Heaven is God's throne and earth His FOOTSTOOL - Isaiah 66:1, Matthew 5:34-35. Jesus is God - Matthew 22:44, Hebrews 1:13
160. Every knee shall bow, and "every tongue" shall confess to GOD - Romans 14:11. The God "every tongue" is confessing to is
JESUS CHRIST - Philippians 2:11​


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160 Reasons Jesus Christ is Almighty God

So this rules out whether or not Jesus could be tempted because James 1:13 says God cannot be tempted.

For what is temptation?
The Scriptures say,

14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death." (James 1:14-15).

So when a person is tempted, they are being drawn away by their own lust. Did Jesus have lusts that brought forth sin? Surely not. For even looking upon a woman in lust was considered a sin to Jesus (See Matthew 5:28-30).

DeadWorm said:
But the incarnate Jesus is one "person" with one will and one mind.

I agree. Jesus is one "person" with one "mind" and one "will." However, this person, mind, and will was divine and eternal (i.e. the Eternal Living Word or Second Person of the Godhead or the Trinity who has always existed).

DeadWorm said:
You don't seem to grasp the significance of the divine kenosis: "He emptied Himself" of all His divine prerogatives to become fully human (Philippians 2:6-7). That is why He needed to receive the Holy Spirit at His baptism and had no unique divine power prior to that.

I am well aware of the Kenosis. But people have different ideas about what that the Kenosis means (Whether that be traditional or untraditional).

Anyways, does the Bible say that Christ emptied himself? Well, not really. The text actually says,

6 "Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." (Philippians 2:6-8).

The word "kenoō" κενόω (which can be translated as void or as nothing) has to be read in context to the other words that follow it. He became like as nothing or of no reputation because he took on the form of a servant and was made in the LIKENESS of men. Yes, Jesus had a real flesh and blood body that we have. But He did not have a created human soul. Jesus's soul was uncreated and divine and eternal. The Word was made flesh. It was not the Word was emptied completely of all divinity and became flesh.

DeadWorm said:
Second, it is why His own family rejects His "Messiah act" during His public ministry. They saw nothing special to warrant such claims and Jesus didn't (I think, couldn't) prevent Joseph from dying.

Verses please.

DeadWorm said:
Third, it is why Jesus "grew in favor with God (Luke 2:52)." Jesus can't grow in favor unless there was a prior time in which He was less in favor with God.

Jesus was without sin (1 Peter 1:18-19) (1 Peter 2:22) (2 Corinthians 5:21) (Hebrews 4:15) (1 John 3:5). So when Jesus grew in favor with God, this would be in context to His continued obedience to the Father. Jesus had many things to accomplish that the Father told Him to do.

For Jesus said,
"Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise." (John 5:19).

"For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak." (John 12:49).

It's why Jesus said to his parents he was about his Father's business when they worried and looking for Him (See Luke 2:48-49).

Yet, also many were amazed at Christ's understanding and His answers.

"And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers." (Luke 2:47).

Also, Jesus was worshiped as God even as a baby.

"And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh." (Matthew 2:11).

Only God can be worshiped.

Also, Scripture says that Jesus was called Emmanuel, which means "God with us."

"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us." (Matthew 1:23).

Also, the Scriptures say that fulness of the Godhead (i.e. The Trinity) dwelled within Christ's body.

"For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily." (Colossians 2:9).

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