Questions - laughing, prosperity, slain

It sounds like you're headed in the right direction.

Don't attend any church where you feel uncomfortable.

Slain in the spirit isn't really something from scripture maybe other than the fact people thought those filled with the spirit were drunk. That sounds like someone whom was drunk would do is fall over. As far as my beliefs on the subject, I'm not offended. Some people have experienced miracles and healings while being slain in the spirit. Prosperity is the opposite of God's will for the Christian life. We are to be persecuted, cast away from non believers, and look forward to the afterlife. But, God provides for us and keeps us safe (unless it is not in his divine plan and we die as martyrs). We will have everything we need (as the birds). Healings need to be a huge focus in the Church, so I don't see how any non-cessation believer (and the bible never said healings would cease anyway) would agree with not making that a priority in the church.

WarriorJMG said:

Slain in the spirit isn't really something from scripture maybe other than the fact people thought those filled with the spirit were drunk. That sounds like someone whom was drunk would do is fall over. As far as my beliefs on the subject, I'm not offended. Some people have experienced miracles and healings while being slain in the spirit. Prosperity is the opposite of God's will for the Christian life. We are to be persecuted, cast away from non believers, and look forward to the afterlife. But, God provides for us and keeps us safe (unless it is not in his divine plan and we die as martyrs). We will have everything we need (as the birds). Healings need to be a huge focus in the Church, so I don't see how any non-cessation believer (and the bible never said healings would cease anyway) would agree with not making that a priority in the church.

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Where in the Bible does it describe someone receiving holy spirit and immediately toppling over unconscious?

Hi friend.We need to get back to the Bible the Word of God. We need to go forward looking unto Jesus the author and completer of our faith. You are very welcome here.

Hello all, and welcome to the forum! Agree with Quietbloke, I hope you feel quite welcome to return or stay.

Once you have gone the distance, , I mean to “test” these and other things for what’s out there, yet shy of conclusion; can say with unfettered certainty, these elements, not my refusals are the base reasons of discord of the Christian Holy Spirit, , once you are able to show beyond the shadow of doubt the Spirit’s presence and ministry has no part whatsoever in these elements, then that I would like to hear.

For I have, as have so many, so common a duration. How does the Spirit, Jesus and the Father suffer so long from our low-lying deliberations; this knowledge of unpleasantness while metastasizing this slow wash between carefulness and incorrect disunity might itself put substantially more blame on the deliberator. You know, that other care we are seldom taught to include, listed as one of those hated by God has taken the reigns of incorrectness for centuries,


This I believe is grieving the Spirit within us till we simply can no longer recognize such misery. But I trust you will promptly correct me with your carefulness with the unity of the Spirit.

simpleone77 said:

1.“they believe, , “this seemingly uncontrollable joy”, , when they go into loud "laughs that it the joy of the Lord”
2."Same place believes in prosperity and healing always"
3.“am not too sure about the slain in the spirit stuff either”
4.“I used to and am looking forward to something more grounded and Christ entered”

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Nos 1-4 overview,

All these are acceptable norms for the AoG though may not present themselves as frequent, even at all for some. But I ask, is not the final emphasis of nos-4 showing the preeminent care over all? If you “used to”, then what threshold did you have in place for that acceptable grounding desired to take place? When the patterns we see take place express the need for correction, that is, when it exceeds the ministry of our being fed. It then becomes a distraction. Is that what you have concern over? What about these you’ve brought up?

Uncontrollable laughter.

Is this truly expressing a pattern of embracing self-willed public outburst more than our instruction to “rejoice with them that rejoice”? I have seen this at length and then those involved submitted to the request for “self-control” when summoned. If that isn’t present, then that does lay in question.

Prosperity and Healing

This I feel was presented more to the merits of bait than objection. God knows. But quite bleak to say ‘Hey wait a minute, this level of interest on health and wealth is interrupting the currents of piety.’ There is, it is true, can be too much focus on something that causes neglect on other things. But to tell the infirm's concern, sorry, were busy is bad medicine.

Slain in the Spirit

Covered much more in this full-gospel forum than laughter yet I feel should see the same testing. That is since self-control are oft overridden, does put the weight on the objector to prove what he has witnessed isn’t those times of “refreshing” from the Lord. We run the gamut don’t we? Cry, weep or rejoice, we are to join if error isn’t shown to be an expression of indecency.

Some of these things have been taken to excess. There are many importent basics that are sometimes neglected

Laughter

Prosperity

Healing

Bethel style of ministry

Slain in the Spirit

The key to Church emphasis should be Jesus and building up the church (people). I have never experienced or been to a service where (holy laughter) happens. If I did I would search the Scriptures to find God's leading for me. If you are uncomfortable, that is not good. But make sure it is not just being unfamiliar with what is happening. God's leading is peace. Isaiah 55:12 It may be of God but you don't understand Scripture correctly. Ask God to enlighten you. Ephesians 1:15-19 Also ask the leaders to share Scripture with you.

Prosperity: God wants us to prosper to help others. 2 Corinthians 9:8; Deuteronomy 8:18 With faith in God's provision we can reach out and help others and not hoard what we have for our use. God does not take pleasure in selfish desires. James 4:3

Give your life to God Galatians 2:20 and He will change your desires. Psalms 37:4 Then we can pray and get God's answer. John 15:7-8 John 14:13-14

Healing is in the atonement.
Isaiah 53:5; Matthew 8:17; 1 Peter 2:24
God wants you well.
Deuteronomy 15:7; The Lord will remove from you ALL sickness.
Psalms 103:3 Heals ALL your diseases.
Acts 10:38 Healed ALL who were oppressed of the devil
There is no example of Jesus not healing
Mark 16:18 Lay hands on the sick and they WILL recover.
Sickness is a curse. We are FREE from the curse of the law. Galatians 3:13

Bethel: I am not familiar with their worship.

Slain in the Spirit. I see nothing wrong with this. Again the emphasis should be Jesus and the glory should be given to God.

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Scottmcc1 said:

Bethel: I am not familiar with their worship.

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Around me, they are Baptist like, to have the Holy Spirit to “live life” for the commission, rather than the extended purpose of also having His gifts as called out in the scriptures. A particular shame to many.

simpleone77 said:

Also am not too sure about the slain in the spirit stuff either.

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Hi Welcome back to the forum, it is great to have you here!

Such interesting points that you make. I can only go off personal experience and the slain in the Spirit is probably one I can understand and vouch for, although I agree that the majority may be copying the actual falling down experience hoping to experience the Lord through it.
My own similar experience was in my kitchen, on my own,when the Spirit came...yes like a mighty wind...like a tornado...with the instruction to pray from the Lord. All strength went from me and I couldn't stand up.

I can truly say that I know the Holy Spirit is real, that he comes from the Father, that Jesus is real. I can never doubt that he is real, it is so wonderful to know.

I will pray for you, may the Father lead you by the power of the Holy Spirit to the church where he wants you to be, in Jesus name

Radrook said:

Where in the Bible does it describe someone receiving holy spirit and immediately toppling over unconscious?

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Where in the bible does it say that is not a possiblity? Not everything is explained by the Bible so personal experience is what we have to go on and if some have received miracles in that way then who are we to question it? My mother was slain in the spirit after she wanted to get healed of constantly needing her knees drained. The pastor told her to run around the church (she did, on recently repaired femurs) and afterwards was slain the spirit by that very same pastor. She hasn't had her knees drained since. Explain to me why God would heal her if she had just blasphemed the spirit through a slaying?