The Spirit of God and the Holy Ghost

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In my opinion; the reason why you do not see it in your Bible is because you are not reading the KJV Bible and/or, current hermeneutics does not see it.

Well then if it is your opinion, then that is all it is. And in the end, opinions do not matter (yours or mine). God's truth is what matters. And God's truth is what will stand in the end.
 
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I wouldn't call it, "scripture twisting," but rather, scripture weaving. It's like his coat at the cross, woven without seam from the top throughout, John 19:23. The superscription, written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin in John 19:20 may be used to implicate the Hebrew, and Greek and English of the KJV Bible.

Scripture was not written in English, a language that did not even exist 2000 years ago.
 
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Where do you get this from (because it is certainly not from the Bible)?
As a matter of fact, the word, "unlearned," in 2 Peter 3:16 may be a reference to a lack of Scientific knowledge. In due time; imagine that!
 
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Scripture was not written in English, a language that did not even exist 2000 years ago.
Of course; it was written in Latin, but Latin is dead and no longer available. English appears to be a good way for the rebirth of the written Word of God. I believe that the Word of God must be written in the letters of three languages, it just so happens that English was chosen, as it is used in the KJV Bible.

Let me ask you a question, "why was the title on Jesus' cross, written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin", and how can we use this information in our daily lives?
 
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Of course; it was written in Latin,

No, it was not. The original manuscripts were written in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, not Latin.

Let me ask you a question, "why was the title on Jesus' cross, written in Hebrew, and Greek, and Latin", and how can we use this information in our daily lives?

Because those were the common languages of the people in that area at that time.

Although it is spoken in many places, English is not the universal language. The Bible should be translated to all languages for all people, everywhere, because it is God's word to His creation.
 
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Well then if it is your opinion, then that is all it is. And in the end, opinions do not matter (yours or mine). God's truth is what matters. And God's truth is what will stand in the end.

Yes; it is my opinion, now. However, with the body of evidence I have from the KJV Bible to support my claims; I hope it someday to become more.
 
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No, it was not. The original manuscripts were written in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic, not Latin.
Not correct. Luke 23:38 says the letters of three languages. You are just showing the letters of two. The Aramaic and Hebrew languages use the same letters.


Because those were the common languages of the people in that area at that time.

Although it is spoken in many places, English is not the universal language. The Bible should be translated to all languages for all people, everywhere, because it is God's word to His creation.
None of this has anything to do with Paul's interpretation of the revelation. Regarding perspectives; I'd say you were in a different universe, pun intended. :) The KJV Bible is a book and should be treated as such. I do not think we should consider it too holy to be given an exhaustive scrutiny; down to the letters of the text, every jot, and every tittle.
 
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frankly, some things cannot be explained, including because the true God doesn't give us to speak about them in-depth, and they can be only spiritually discerned/experienced/appraised, or as St Paul says:

1 Corinthians 2:14-16 "the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual(i.e. truly spiritual) judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man(i.e. yet he himself cannot be denounced by anyone). For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."

i.e. even if i know something of those things, i cannot tell you what they are, or at least i can talk not much about anything of that; in shot, i can tell you that each of the true Saints has the Holy Spirit more than anyone else i.e. that is not a true Saint, but as for the "seven spirits" and "stars", it is hard to be explained, though there are also Angels/Saints that can explain a lot about these things, personally i don't go into such details when speaking about God and spiritual things, or at least for now, because what is given to me (to know) is that more important for us is to show love for our neighbor and (to) be righteous, but righteousness doesn't mean science, but means to think about the prosperity of all humans, not only about the prosperity of some

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No; it is all very simple, as laid out for you in the KJV Bible.
 
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No; it is all very simple, as laid out for you in the KJV Bible.

i meant that things such as the "seven streams" from Isaiah 11:15 are hard to be understood and explained for example as to their detailed differences, because they can be discerned/appraised only in the process of practicing the faith right enough, for example i can tell you that the world of occultism called "egypt" in the Bible tries to make the "seven spirits" of the true God inaccessible to humankind, and (to) replace them with seven unclean/devilish spirits, but it is hard for me to explain to you detailedly what they are

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i meant that things such as the "seven streams" from Isaiah 11:15 are hard to be understood and explained for example as to their detailed differences, because they can be discerned/appraised only in the process of practicing the faith right enough, for example i can tell you that the world of occultism called "egypt" in the Bible tries to make the "seven spirits" of the true God inaccessible to humankind, and (to) replace them with seven unclean/devilish spirits, but it is hard for me to explain to you detailedly what they are

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All that is irrelevant to the KJV Interpretation, which tells the story of the days of creation; from the beginning to the ending.
 
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i meant that things such as the "seven streams" from Isaiah 11:15 are hard to be understood and explained for example as to their detailed differences, because they can be discerned/appraised only in the process of practicing the faith right enough, for example i can tell you that the world of occultism called "egypt" in the Bible tries to make the "seven spirits" of the true God inaccessible to humankind, and (to) replace them with seven unclean/devilish spirits, but it is hard for me to explain to you detailedly what they are

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So, what good is it; if you can't understand it well enough to talk about it? I believe that, at the level you are now; you are not able to understand Paul's message, because your hermeneutics will not allow it.
 
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All that is irrelevant to the KJV Interpretation, which tells the story of the days of creation; from the beginning to the ending.

why do you think the translation of the KJV Bible is absolutely perfect?!, KJV Bible is also full of imperfections as to the translation, albeit less than the translational imperfections in other versions of the Bible, that is why, first of all, we have to believe in the true God right enough, because it is not in vain written that the just man will live through faith:

Romans 1:16-17 "I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.",

Romans 2:28-29 "For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.",

2 Corinthians 3:5-6 "Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."

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So, what good is it; if you can't understand it well enough to talk about it? I believe that, at the level you are now; you are not able to understand Paul's message, because your hermeneutics will not allow it.

some things can be understood only through the very spiritual process of practicing the faith, because they cannot be identified as monochrome or chromatic, non-dimensional or dimensional and in general as not having or having qualities/properties/attributes/features through the physical human senses, or can you see the spirits especially through your physical senses, either the spirits of the true God or the spirits of the wicked one, so that you can describe their physical qualities/properties/attributes/features?!, therefore it is written:

2 Peter 3:15-16 "And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.",

1 Corinthians 2:7-14 "we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world(i.e. which none of the servants/workers of the world of human(666) spirituality/religiosity) knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man(i.e. of any man that has practiced the faith wrong), the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world(i.e. not the spirit of the system of human(666) spirituality/religiosity), but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man(i.e. the man practicing the faith according to the world of human(666) spirituality/religiosity) receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned(i.e. only if the faith is practiced right enough)."

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why do you think the translation of the KJV Bible is absolutely perfect?!, KJV Bible is also full of imperfections as to the translation, albeit less than the translational imperfections in other versions of the Bible, that is why, first of all, we have to believe in the true God right enough, because it is not in vain written that the just man will live through faith:

Of course it is not perfect, from your hermeneutical perspective; which is lost. However, it is absolutely perfect and without err from my hermeneutical perspective; down to the one quintillionth degree, which is the way it ought to be for the Wonderful Living Word of the LORD.

I see the KJV perfect, by the way it is presented; which is the way of Paul's interpretation. There is but one story, one interpretation of the KJV Bible and that is the story of the first day, second day, and third day; the days of the creation. And it is on the third day of creation where scripture leaves us with the book of Revelation; for today, the fourth day of the creation.

According to this premise, there can be no err and it is perfect! Amen...
 
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"By the way it is presented", meaning that Paul’s demonstration may use any logical means necessary to show a relationship between two or more passages, and reveal knowledge. And this is the way of Paul’s demonstration in the KJV Bible, a way which cannot be contained within the bounds of this Universe. There is much to be done !
 
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I believe that it was Revelation 20:1-7 which first verified our belief that today is the fourth day, through understanding the fifth day and sixth day are explained in 2 Peter 3:8.
There appears to be two telling's for the fifth day in Revelation 20:1-6. The first, for the lessor light, as told in verses one thru three and then one for the greater light in Revelation 20:4, as prepared for by the three verses of Revelation 6:9-11.
 
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