Fire Judgement

keras · Jan 11, 2017

Hebrews10:27..the terrifying judgement of a fierce fire, that will consume God’s enemies
2 Peter 3:7 By the Word of God, the present heavens and earth are being reserved for burning; they are being kept until the Day of judgement when the godless will be destroyed. Matthew 3:10-12, Isaiah 34:2-3

The Apostles are telling us the next time that the Lord will judge it will be with fire. In the days of Noah, He judged with water and the rainbow is His promise that He will never again flood the earth. It is awful to think it, but there are a great many prophecies that describe this coming fire judgement. Spiritually, it is only when fire comes: consuming the sins of ourselves and of nations, that we fall down and proclaim ‘the Lord, He is our God’. Literally, it will be the way that He will destroy His enemies, in this coming confrontation in the Middle East and throughout the world.

This terrible and shocking event, will be so severe that every person will be revealed for what they really are. This crisis will show the real nature of the worlds enmity against God. At the same time it will reveal the true condition of every Christian. 1 Cor. 3:13
Many of us are well fed, enjoying a very comfortable lifestyle and can sing Hallelujah, Amen, with great fervour, but when the terrifying fire judgement hits the earth, will we stand firm in our trust for His protection? When electric power fails, when all telephone, radio and internet communications are destroyed, food supplies cut off and armed gangs roam the streets? Isaiah 24:10-13

Isaiah 29:13-14 Because this people worship Me with empty words and pay Me lip service while their hearts are far from Me and their religion is but a human precept, learned by rote: therefore I shall shock them, adding shock to shock, The wisdom of their wise will vanish and understanding will be lost.

A very large percentage of the Bible is a message to us, today in the end times. Most of the events, such as the Exodus and the history of the Israelites are precursors of what we will now experience. 1 Corinthians 10:11 We must learn from them and act according to the lessons learnt. Although I am not a theologian, I can read plain words, words that mean things and unless you ignore or allegorize what the prophets are trying to tell us, then a literal understanding will enlighten us as to what will soon happen to this world.
I do not subscribe to the pretentious theory, which says that God’s people are going to be ‘raptured’ and removed from the earth before this time of trial comes. The whole message of salvation, of discipleship, and coming into the maturity of a Christian is a preparation for a time of testing.

1 Corinthians 10:13 So far you have faced no trial beyond human endurance. God will not test you beyond your powers, but when the test comes he will enable you to endure under it.
John 17:15 Jesus prayed: I do not pray that You take them out of this world, but that You protect them from the evil one.
Luke 21:34-36 Be on your guard, keep alert, so that the great Day does not catch you unready, for that Day will come on everyone the whole world over. Pray for the strength to pass through all that is coming and then to stand in His presence.
Acts 14:22....that to enter the Kingdom of God, we must undergo many hardships.
Ref: REB, some verses abridged

Psalm3704 · Jan 11, 2017

keras said:
Acts 14:22....that to enter the Kingdom of God, we must undergo many hardships.
Ref: REB, some verses abridged

What about all the dead in Christ that endured hardship in their own life who already died like the apostles Paul who was beheaded and Pater who was crucified on the cross upside down and will never go through the tribulation to experience this hardship? Are they destined for the devil?

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bcbsr · Jan 11, 2017

keras said:
Hebrews10:27..the terrifying judgement of a fierce fire, that will consume God’s enemies
2 Peter 3:7 By the Word of God, the present heavens and earth are being reserved for burning; they are being kept until the Day of judgement when the godless will be destroyed. Matthew 3:10-12, Isaiah 34:2-3

The Apostles are telling us the next time that the Lord will judge it will be with fire. In the days of Noah, He judged with water and the rainbow is His promise that He will never again flood the earth. It is awful to think it, but there are a great many prophecies that describe this coming fire judgement. Spiritually, it is only when fire comes: consuming the sins of ourselves and of nations, that we fall down and proclaim ‘the Lord, He is our God’. Literally, it will be the way that He will destroy His enemies, in this coming confrontation in the Middle East and throughout the world.

This terrible and shocking event, will be so severe that every person will be revealed for what they really are. This crisis will show the real nature of the worlds enmity against God. At the same time it will reveal the true condition of every Christian. 1 Cor. 3:13
Many of us are well fed, enjoying a very comfortable lifestyle and can sing Hallelujah, Amen, with great fervour, but when the terrifying fire judgement hits the earth, will we stand firm in our trust for His protection? When electric power fails, when all telephone, radio and internet communications are destroyed, food supplies cut off and armed gangs roam the streets? Isaiah 24:10-13

Isaiah 29:13-14 Because this people worship Me with empty words and pay Me lip service while their hearts are far from Me and their religion is but a human precept, learned by rote: therefore I shall shock them, adding shock to shock, The wisdom of their wise will vanish and understanding will be lost.

A very large percentage of the Bible is a message to us, today in the end times. Most of the events, such as the Exodus and the history of the Israelites are precursors of what we will now experience. 1 Corinthians 10:11 We must learn from them and act according to the lessons learnt. Although I am not a theologian, I can read plain words, words that mean things and unless you ignore or allegorize what the prophets are trying to tell us, then a literal understanding will enlighten us as to what will soon happen to this world.
I do not subscribe to the pretentious theory, which says that God’s people are going to be ‘raptured’ and removed from the earth before this time of trial comes. The whole message of salvation, of discipleship, and coming into the maturity of a Christian is a preparation for a time of testing.

1 Corinthians 10:13 So far you have faced no trial beyond human endurance. God will not test you beyond your powers, but when the test comes he will enable you to endure under it.
John 17:15 Jesus prayed: I do not pray that You take them out of this world, but that You protect them from the evil one.
Luke 21:34-36 Be on your guard, keep alert, so that the great Day does not catch you unready, for that Day will come on everyone the whole world over. Pray for the strength to pass through all that is coming and then to stand in His presence.
Acts 14:22....that to enter the Kingdom of God, we must undergo many hardships.
Ref: REB, some verses abridged

Heb 10:7 says that the fire it's talking about is reserved for God's ENEMIES. So, don't be his enemy and you'll do fine there.

As for Peter, he's referring to an event which occurs after the millenial kingdom (The 1000 year reign of Christ and his saints on the earth, which itself follows the rapture and the resurrection of the saints).

inquiring mind · Jan 11, 2017

keras said:
Most of the events, such as the Exodus and the history of the Israelites are precursors of what we will now experience. 1 Corinthians 10:11

Although Isaiah’s “Day of Judgment” prophecy is concerning old time Israel and its surrounding nations, the NT verses you quote (i.e. 1 Corinthians 10:11-13) make it clear that such events are instruction for end times as well. We are forewarned.

Handmaid for Jesus · Jan 11, 2017

A scientist warns that we are sitting ducks for a giant solar flare. Watch this in full screen.

inquiring mind · Jan 11, 2017

Handmaid for Jesus said:
A scientist warns that we are sitting ducks for a giant solar flare.

Fire indeed!

keras · Jan 11, 2017

Psalm3704 said:
What about all the dead in Christ that endured hardship in their own life who already died like the apostles Paul who was beheaded and Pater who was crucified on the cross upside down and will never go through the tribulation to experience this hardship? Are they destined for the devil?

How ever you get such a notion, beats me.
Read Revelation 6:9, the souls of the martyrs are kept under the Altar in heaven, Jesus will bring them when He Returns and they will be resurrected to reign with Him for the 1000 years.
The rest of the dead, Christian and ungodly await the GWT judgement. Revelation 20:11-15

bcbsr said:
Heb 10:7 says that the fire it's talking about is reserved for God's ENEMIES. So, don't be his enemy and you'll do fine there.

This forthcoming fire will affect everyone, but excepting for those enemies in the Middle East area, Ezekiel 30:1-5, Jeremiah 10:18, most people will take shelter and survive. Hiding in caves and in the mountains....Todays equivalents; basements, subways and tornado shelters. Remember: Joel 2:32 and Acts 2:21

Psalm3704 · Jan 12, 2017

keras said:
How ever you get such a notion, beats me.

It's right here Keras. This was what you wrote in the OP.

I do not subscribe to the pretentious theory, which says that God’s people are going to be ‘raptured’ and removed from the earth before this time of trial comes. The whole message of salvation, of discipleship, and coming into the maturity of a Christian is a preparation for a time of testing.

keras said:
I do not subscribe to the pretentious theory, which says that God’s people are going to be ‘raptured’ and removed from the earth before this time of trial comes. The whole message of salvation, of discipleship, and coming into the maturity of a Christian is a preparation for a time of testing.

In the last 6-8 months on this forum, you've been constantly promoting this idea calling upon all of God's people, Jews and Christians to relocate, moving to Israel and live there during the coming tribulation to endure God's wrath till the end citing that one's salvation can only be attained after enduring a time of testing.

In that time, I don't think I've ever confront you on this matter till now so the question again is if salvation can only be attain by having to endure the end time tribulation of Daniel's 70th week, what about all the dead in Christ that already endured hardship in their own life who already died and will never go through the coming tribulation to experience this hardship?

Are the dead in Christ going to hell since they're not alive today to endure through Daniel's 70th week?

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Another Lazarus · Jan 12, 2017

John at Patmos island has seen the hail of fire so terrible that 1/3 of the earth is burned up, imagine the heat and the smoke, the world shall be darken !!! such horrors in the tribulation.

Rev 8:7
The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down on the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.

May Jesus bless you all HalleluYAH

keras · Jan 12, 2017

Psalm3704 said:
Keras, Ezekiel 34:11-31 and Isaiah 35:1-10 are not prophecies of God's wrath upon Israel during the tribulation.

No, they are prophesies about how all the Lord's righteous Christian people will go to live in all of the holy Land in peace and prosperity. God will destroy the enemies like Gog/Magog. but later the Anti-Christ leader of the One World Govt will conquer them and sit in the Temple. That triggers the Great Trib. of the last 3 1/2 years, then Jesus Returns.

The dead in Christ sleep in the grave until the Return, when the martyrs are resurrected, then after the 1000 years, all whose names are in the Book of life go into eternity with God.

keras · Jan 13, 2017

Isaiah 28:21 The Lord will arise as He did on Mt Perazim, [1 Chron. 14:11] and storm with rage as He did in the valley of Gibeon, [Joshua 10:9-15] to do what He must do, to perform a strange and alien task.

Isaiah 29:5 Suddenly, in an instant the horde of your enemies will crumble into dust, punishment will come from the Lord, with thunder, earthquakes, with storm and tempest and flames of devouring fire.

Isaiah 13:6-13 Cry out: for the Day of the Lord is at hand, it will come in a mighty destruction. Fear will grip everyone, men will lose courage at the coming disaster. That cruel Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath is coming to reduce all the earth to a desolation and to destroy the evil and godless people on it. It will be a Day of darkness, on the day that the Lord brings disaster onto the world and due punishment to the wicked. He will put an end to arrogance and will humble the pride of the ruthless. Humans will become as scarce as fine gold, on the Day that the heavens will be moved and the earth shaken from its place, at the wrath of the Lord, in the Day of His blazing anger. Ref. REB, some verses abridged.

As Isaiah tells us: The Lord has in the past acted to destroy His enemies and now: once again, He will take action and perform His fiery punishment.
Isaiah 42:14 Long have I restrained Myself…now I groan like a woman in labour. I shall lay to waste the earth and cause the streams and lakes to dry up. Isaiah 59:18, Isaiah 63:1-6, Isaiah 64:1-2, Psalms 68:1-2, Jeremiah 12:14, Deut.32:26-35

The Lord will arise, to perform a strange task – to punish His enemies, the attackers of Israel and to humble the godless.

Punishment will come from the Lord – not a nuclear war or anything instigated by man, but God instigated, triggered by an Islamic attack onto Israel. Isaiah 21:2 & 22:6

Suddenly, in an instant – This is the event that ‘will come like a thief’, unexpectedly.

earthquakes – Earthquakes will be caused by the microwave effect of the electromagnetic pulse in a massive coronal mass ejection. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1

devouring fire – The fireball of the high temperature cosmic particles of a CME.
the Day of the Lord is at hand – This is the logical result of most of mankind’s rejection of God and His Laws. Hebrews 10:27
Fear will grip everyone – This sudden and shocking event will terrify all those people unaware of God’s plans. Ezekiel 7:15-19

a mighty destruction, to reduce the earth to desolation – A worldwide disaster.

a day of darkness – The approaching mass from the sun obscures it, also smoke from city and forest fires and ash from volcanoes.

Humans will become scarce – Millions will die from the initial strike and millions more from famine and the fighting afterward. Jeremiah 9:22

the heavens move – the magnetosphere and the atmosphere will be severely affected. 2 Peter 3:10, Rev. 6:14

the earth will shake from its place – the hit from this CME may cause the earth’s orbit to speed up, thereby giving us a 360 day year, which is the prophetic year. Isaiah 24:1

His blazing anger – It is appropriate that the Lord will use the sun, our life sustainer, to judge mankind. Deut.32:34-35 A CME solar flare perfectly and literally fulfils all the prophesied effects, but it will quickly pass by, leaving the world to recover. A world that will never be the same again and the stage will be set for all the other prophesied things to happen before the Return of Jesus for His Millennium reign.

Psalm3704 · Jan 13, 2017

keras said:
I do not subscribe to the pretentious theory, which says that God’s people are going to be ‘raptured’ and removed from the earth before this time of trial comes.

Keras, read 1 Thessalonians 1:10 again and see if you can make the connection.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 New King James Version (NKJV)
and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, even Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come.

Since Jesus comes for the church before the wrath, that would mean the church is in heaven with Jesus before the tribulation.

Now if you think the church is on earth and goes through the entire tribulation, that would also mean you're telling us Jesus is on earth the entire tribulation too.

If Jesus is in heaven before the wrath, where else can the church be?

1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 New King James Version (NKJV)
16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.

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keras · Jan 13, 2017

Psalm3704 said:
The resurrection in Revelation 20:4 is only for the martyrs that died during the tribulation who did not worship and follow the beast and were beheaded. This resurrection does not include the dead in Christ that died before the tribulation like Paul and Peter.

This conflicts with Revelation 6:9-11, where the souls of all the martyrs from Stephen are kept under the Altar in heaven. They are told to wait a little longer until their numbers are completed.
This will include Christians killed today and during the Great Trib, up until Jesus Returns.

Psalm3704 said:
Well Keras, since you won't answer the question truthfully and I can't force you to give an answer, I might as well do the next best thing and get the answer from the bible.
The bible clearly states we're NOT subject to God's wrath. Clearly the bible teaches that Christians are to wait for Jesus to come deliver us BEFORE the wrath, not after.

Rude and unacceptable comment.
But typical from a rapture believer, they cannot see anything other than their precious theory.
Christians are told to 'call upon the Name of the Lord', for His protection, NOT removal. 1 Corinthians 10:13, Psalms 60:4-5 and many other verses saying how He will keep His loyal servants safe under His hand. Isaiah 51:16, Isaiah 43:2

Psalm3704 said:
If Jesus is in heaven before the wrath, where else can the church be?

On earth, the place we were made for. We have work to do for the Lord, escapism and the childish notion of sitting on the clouds while the earth is in Tribulation, is unbiblical foolishness.

keras · Jan 15, 2017

Zephaniah 3:8 Wait for Me, says the Lord, wait for the Day when I stand up and accuse mankind. For I shall pour out My wrath upon nations and kingdoms, in My burning anger: the whole earth will be devastated by fire.

Zephaniah 1:14-18 The great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath is near and coming fast. That Day will be a Day of distress and torment, a Day of devastation amid thick darkness. A Day of thunder and destruction against military fortifications and cities. the Lord will bring terrible distress upon the people, they won’t know which way to turn as they are punished for their sins against Me. Their blood and guts will be spilled out like filth over the ground. Neither their treasure nor their idols will be able to save them on the sudden and shocking Day of the Lord’s fiery anger. All the Land will be burned and devastated. Ezekiel 20:46-48

Zephaniah 2:1-3 Prepare yourselves, you undesirable nation, be humble before you disappear like chaff, before the burning anger of the Lord comes upon you. Seek righteousness; seek humility, all you people in the Land who obey God’s Laws and it may be that you will find shelter on the Day of the Lord’s anger.

Zephaniah 2:4-7 Gaza will be deserted, Ashkelon left in ruins. At midday all the towns of the Mediterranean coast will be cleared of inhabitants, for the Word of God is against you – land of the Philistines. I shall lay you in ruins, no one will survive. The sea coast will become a sheep grazing area belonging to the survivors of Judah, for their God will turn to them and restore their fortunes. Isaiah 14-1, Ezekiel 36:1-37

Zephaniah 2:8-10 I have noted the insults of Moab and the Ammonites, how they have reviled My people and encroached on their frontiers. For this, I swear, they will become like Sodom and Gomorrah, a place of weeds and salt pans. Those of My people who survive will inherit their land. This is retribution for their pride, because they have insulted God’s people and taken over their Land. Jeremiah 12:14

Zephaniah 3:11-13 On that Day, Jerusalem, I shall rid you of your proud and arrogant citizens, but I will leave a remnant, a humble people who will trust in Me. The survivors in Israel will be righteous, under My protection. Isaiah 31:5

Zephaniah 3:19-20 When the time comes and I have dealt with your oppressors, then I shall rescue the lost and gather the dispersed and bring you all to your homeland. You will win respect and renown from the other nations when I restore your fortunes before your very eyes, It is I, the Lord, who speaks.

Wait for the Day; the whole earth burned and devastated. The only known way how this could happen, is by a massive coronal mass ejection, a fire judgement mentioned and described over 100 times in Bible prophecy. It will be the event that ‘comes like a thief’, unexpected and shocking. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1
You undesirable nation – the Jewish people. It may be that those who live righteously and humbly will ‘find shelter on the Day of the Lord’s anger.’ 2 Peter 2:9
Philistines and Moab and Ammon – Palestinians and Jordanians. Amos 1:6-8 & 13-14
leave a remnant in Jerusalem, under My protection – Isaiah 4:3, Zechariah 9:14-18
rescue the lost....bring you home – The great gathering of all the true Christian peoples, prophesied more than 40 times, to happen soon after this forthcoming, worldwide fire judgement. They will live in the promised Land, under God’s protection and when the Anti Christ comes to Jerusalem, they are taken to a place of safety until the Return of Jesus.

LovebirdsFlying · Jan 16, 2017

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keras · Jan 18, 2017

Joel 1:15 The day is near, the Day of the Lord it comes as a mighty destruction from Almighty God.

Joel 2:1-5 Blow the trumpet in Israel, sound the alarm in Jerusalem. Let all who live in the Land tremble, for the day of the Lord is coming – it is close at hand. A Day of darkness and clouds. Like the dawn, an innumerable host comes across the land, such as never was and will never be again. A fire goes before them, leaving wasteland behind. With a great noise they leap mountains and consume everything to stubble.

Joel 2:6-11 At the sight of them, all the nations are in anguish. They march in line, none swerving against any defense. They rush upon cities and enter houses through the windows. The earth quakes and the sky is darkened. The Lord thunders at the head of His army, beyond number are those who obey His command. The Day of the Lord is great and dreadful, who can endure it?

Joel 1:6-12 & 19-20... this invading host destroys trees and crops. Fire has burnt the pastures and trees. All the streams have dried up.
The Day of the Lord, as described by Joel is not Armageddon, at the Return of Jesus or at the Great White Throne judgement. It is plainly an event before then, also prophesied in Isaiah 2:12-21, Revelation 6:12-17, Ezekiel 7:2-9: + over other 100 times.

Joel uses the metaphor of an army to describe how this destruction moves across the earth as it rotates- ‘like the dawn’. As nations turn to face the sun, the effects of a Coronal Mass Ejection- sunstrike will hit them. Initially, it will strike the earth as a light flash [Isaiah 30:26a] within 8 minutes, then the highly charged cosmic particles arrive about 24 hours later, causing immense destruction and deaths. Fires and volcanic eruptions will result in smoke and ash clouds, covering the sky. Isaiah 29:5-6, Psalms 18:7-15, Jeremiah 4:23-28

Judah [the current State of Israel] is affected- Hosea 8:14, Ezekiel 20:45-48, Isaiah 4:3-4.
Then - the Lord’s enemies: Isaiah 22:5-14, Psalms 83:1-18, Isaiah 63:1-6 plus many others.

Deuteronomy 32:34-35 says how He will act when His enemies ‘foot will slip”. That is they make a mistake. That mistake will be their instigating an attack against Israel.

Malachi 4:1-3 Surely the day of the Lord is coming, it will burn like a furnace. All the evildoers will be as stubble, they will be burned up. They will be ashes under your feet. But for you, who revere My Name, righteousness will rise with healing in its wings. You will rejoice and prevail over the wicked on the Day that I act against them.

THEN the many prophecies that describe the migration of all true believers into the Promised Land will come to pass. This great exodus of His Christian people will fulfil the promises that God made to the Patriarchs and they will, at last be a people that will be a ‘light to the nations’. They will prepare themselves and the world for the Return of Jesus. Ezekiel 35:11-30, Ezekiel 36:8-12, Deuteronomy 30:1-10, Zechariah 10:6-12, Isaiah 46:27-28, Ezekiel 39:25-29, Zephaniah 10:6-12

That Jesus is not yet present at this time, is clear from the many verses saying: ‘You will know that I am the Lord, when... And how it ‘will be as in the days of Egypt’.
Ezekiel 14:6-11, Ezekiel 39:22, Joel 2:27, Isaiah 41:20.

keras · Jan 20, 2017

Amos 5:9 The Lord flashes forth destruction upon the strongholds of the powerful nations.

Zephaniah 1:16 A Day of battle cries against fortified cities.

Isaiah 30:25-30 ....on the Day of massacre, when fortresses fall….The Lord’s arm will descend in His fierce anger, with devouring flames of fire…..

Deuteronomy 32:22 For fire is kindled by My wrath, it burns to the realms of death below. [weapons stored underground] It devours the earth and its harvest and penetrates to the foundations of the mountains. [The electromagnetic pulse effect of huge coronal mass ejection.]

Jeremiah 25:32 Disaster spreads from nation to nation, [as the earth rotates] a mighty storm of military destruction comes.

Psalm 46:9 In all the world, He breaks the bow, snaps the spear and burns the shields in the fire.

Jeremiah 50:22-27 See how the hammer of the world is shattered. The Lord has opened His armoury, the weapons of His wrath to do His work in the land of the Babylonians. [the godless peoples] Put all warriors to the sword, lead them to slaughter, for their time has come.

Amos 2:14-16 ....the warrior will not save himself, on that Day they will all throw away their weapons and run, but they cannot escape.

Proverbs 12:12 The strongholds of the wicked crumble like clay.

Psalm 76:3 The Lord has broken the flashing arrows [nukes] and all weapons of war.

Ezekiel 7:14 The trumpet has sounded, but no one goes to war, for their actions have called forth My wrath. [An attack on Israel by the Islamic peoples. Psalms 83]

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

Isaiah 34:2 The Lord’s anger is against all the nations, His wrath is against their armed forces, they will be slaughtered, their dead will stink.

Hosea 10:13-14.....because you have trusted in your chariots and in the number of your warriors, destruction will arise against your people [Israel and the Western nations.] and all your fortresses will be overthrown. [military power destroyed]

Hosea 2:18..... I shall break the bow and sword, I shall sweep all weapons of war off the earth, so that My people may lie down without fear.

Haggai 2:21-22 I shall shake the heavens and the earth, shall overthrow the thrones of kings, break the power of the heathen realms, overturn chariots, horses and riders will fall. [armies] Fear will cause them to fight amongst themselves.

Micah 5:10-11 On that Day, I shall slaughter your horses and burn your chariots and raze your [military] fortifications to the ground.

Jeremiah 49:35 I shall break the bow of Elam, [Iran] the chief weapon of their might. [bow and arrows, military code names for nuclear weapons]

The Coronal Mass Ejection, explosion of the sun, Isaiah 30:26, that the Lord will use on His great and terrible Day of vengeance and wrath, will destroy all electronic systems, cause weapons to explode, sink ships, crash aircraft, burn buildings and kill personnel.

keras · Jan 23, 2017

1 Peter 1:6–7 ….Now: for a little while you may have to suffer various trials so that the genuineness of your faith, more precious than gold, may be tested in order to prove yourself worthy of all praise, glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.
James 1:2–4 Count it all joy, my brethren when you meet various trials, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And you must stand firm, so that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.

1 Peter 4:12 Dear friends, do not be surprised by the fiery ordeal that has come to test you……

I the Lord do not change; therefore you are not consumed, My people! Isaiah 43:2

There is no painless path to be worthy in God’s sight. Romans 8:18, James 1:12 The truth is this: no pain, no gain. Everyone faces some kind of testing in their life. The olden day Christians endured martyrdom, today our tests are not so painful, but more insidious and cunning, therefore more likely to trip up the unwary. The traps of materialism, sexual sin, of belief in false ideas and a ‘lukewarm’ faith. Rev. 3:14-22

However, there is coming a Day, Luke 21:34-36, 1 Thess. 5:2-3, that the Lord will arise and judge/punish the enemies who occupy the holy Land area. This terrible Day of the Lord’s fiery wrath will affect everyone alive in the world and change it dramatically, leading to a One World Government.

Both of these are true: the Lord is like a refiner's fire; and a refiner's fire is a literal fire. Fire is mentioned in the Bible prophesies over 70 times. Although some say He will come in fire, others put it better: He will send fire, Amos 1:1-15 & 2:1-5, Psalms 11:4-6 Although the Sixth Seal doesn’t mention fire, the effects described will be literally fulfilled by this prophesied explosion of the sun. Isaiah 30:26

More than anything else it is the unshakable trust that all the ways of the Lord are steadfast love and faithfulness toward everyone who stands firm and trusts in His salvation and protection. Luke 21:34-36
We Christians will then receive the great promises of God to his faithful people, of their redemption and restoration into all of the holy Land. Great will be the Day!

keras · Jan 27, 2017

Because there are some similarities with the great Day of the Sovereign Lord, Rev. 19:11-21, which refers to the Return of Jesus and between the Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath that happens at the Sixth Seal, Rev. 6:17, then some people consider them as the same event. This is not and cannot be correct, as the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl judgement-punishments as written in Revelation are clearly a consecutive sequence of events, with the Return at the end of all that. We are especially warned to not alter the book of Revelation. Rev 22:19

Matthew 24:27-30 Like a lightning flash over all the earth, so will the Presence of the Son of Man be. Where the dead are, the vultures will gather.
Then, immediately after the days of tribulation, the sun and moon will be darkened, stars will fall and then will appear the Lord Jesus. Everyone will mourn as He comes on the clouds with great power and glory.

Note that the moon will be blood red at the Day of the Lord’s wrath - Acts 2:20, whereas at the Return, the sun and moon will be darkened. It is patently obvious that there are two events described above, first is the Sixth Seal, when the Lord instigates the ‘lightning flash’ of His Day of vengeance and wrath, at the punishment of the nations when He is not seen, coming in the clouds, Psalm 18:11, then it isn’t until after the seventh seal time gap of 16/17 years, at the end of the Great Tribulation, that He Returns in glory to commence His Millennial reign. The Lord Jesus comes on the clouds, Matthew 24:30, in His garment splashed with blood; from His previous punishment of the nations. Isaiah 63:1-6

Where the dead are; where those carrion birds gather, is mainly in the Middle East, but also around the world as many prophesies say. Ezekiel 30:2-5, Psalm 83:1-18, Isaiah 66:15-16, Jeremiah 25:33, Deut. 32:41, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Nahum 1:3-6, 2 Peter 3:10

These Bible passages also state the next prophesied event, the Day of the Lord’s wrath and what the ‘lightning flash’ is that will affect all the world is explained to us in:

Isaiah 30:26-30…the sun will shine with seven times its normal strength, on the Day the Lord saves His people. Look! The power of the Lord comes from afar, with His wrath and great rage blazing, His tongue as a devouring fire… He sieves out the nations for destruction. His arm will strike them down with flames of devouring fire, floods, hailstones and storm tempest. But for you there will be rejoicing, as you march to the holy Land, to the Rock of Israel.

Isaiah 42:14-16 Long have I restrained Myself… now I am ready to act. I shall dry up the streams, lay waste to the land and make it a desert. Then, I shall lead My people along new paths, I will make a light before them.

Psalm 97:1-12 The Lord reigns! In His justice, He flashes forth lightning’s and all the earth quakes. Cloud and thick mist enfolds Him as fire goes ahead, consuming all His enemies. The Lord’s people hear and rejoice as He rescues them. Psalm 18:7-15

Deuteronomy 32:36-43 The Lord will judge the nations, but will have compassion on His servants. His flashing sword of punishment will fall upon His enemies. He will take vengeance on all who hate Him and will cleanse His people’s Land.

Ezekiel 36:5-12 In the fiery heat of My anger, I will punish the nations, but especially those who inhabit My holy Land. Then you, Land of Israel, will put forth growth and bear produce, for the homecoming of My people is near. I will bless the Land and settle upon it many people – the whole Israelite people, they will increase and be prosperous, the burned houses and the ruined places will be rebuilt.

Zechariah 9:14-17 The Lord comes on a mighty storm wind from the South. He will sound the shofar, as His arrows dart like lightning, defeating the enemy and defending His people. They will rejoice, as with wine, on the Day their Lord saves them, for they are as precious jewels sparkling in the holy Land.

Joel 2:11 & 18 The Lord thunders as He marshals His forces, countless are those who obey His commands. For great and terrible is the Day of the Lord and who can endure it? Then the Lord shows His love for the holy Land and has compassion for His people.

Amos 9:5 & 14 At the Lord’s touch, the whole earth heaves, it will rise and fall like the Nile and woe to all who live on it. But I will restore the fortune of My people, righteous Israel, they will rebuild the ruined towns, sow and plant, then enjoy the produce.

Habakkuk 3:10-13 The mountains see You and shake, an enormous wave of water rushes by, the sun and moon stay still as Your flashing arrows and Your spear like lightning speed on their way. In fury, You traverse the earth, in anger You trample the nations, but You come out to save Your people, as You shatter the wicked, You protect Your anointed ones.

Malachi 4:1-3 The Day comes, burning like a furnace, when all the arrogant and evildoers will be burnt to a stubble, that Day will set them ablaze and leave neither root nor branch. But for you who fear My Name, the sun of righteousness will shine forth, you will be restored and break loose, like calves released. On the Day I take action, the wicked will be as ashes beneath your feet.

Revelation 14:12 &18-19 From the Altar came another angel, the one who has authority over fire and he called to the one with the sharp sickle: Put in your sharp sickle, for the earth’s harvest is ripe. So the angel swept the earth, gathered in the grapes and threw them into the great winepress of God’s wrath.
All this calls for the endurance of the Lord’s people, all those who keep His commands and remain loyal to Him.

All these prophecies and many others, speak of a worldwide judgement by fire, a CME sun explosion that will depopulate the entire Middle East. Then the great gathering of the Christian Israelite people, the true descendants and those grafted in, will gather and live in all of the holy Land. They will choose their own leaders, Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11. The Lord will ‘reveal His glory among His own’ 2 Thess 1:10, Isaiah 24:23, Rev. 14:1, but not to the world, until several years later.

Like most of the prophetic Word, Revelation is somewhat mixed up. But the Seals, Trumpets and Bowls are one of the few instances of a correct sequence and from them, we can get a true picture of events. Note carefully, in Rev. 5:1, the description of the Scroll – written on both sides and sealed with seven seals. So the seals are first, they must be removed one by one. The first five have been opened, probably soon after the ‘Lamb’ ascended to heaven. The Sixth Seal is next, now very soon to happen. This sudden and shocking world changing event will enable the establishment of the One World Govt, also the gathering of the Lord’s people to all of the holy Land. That is what all Christians should be looking forward to! At the same time, or very soon after the Sixth, is the 7th seal, which is undeniably a time interval. Then, years later, at the mid-point of Daniels 70th year, the scroll is unrolled for the Great Tribulation – the 7 Trumpets and the 7 Bowls.

Revelation 7:1-17 After that, [the Sixth Seal] I saw four angels holding back any further disasters until the seal of God was given to His servants. Twelve thousand from each tribe of Israel received the seal of God and then I saw a great throng of people from all races, tribes, nations and tongues, praising the Lord. They have passed through great ordeal, been tested and found righteous. Never again will the sun scorch them.

‘holding back any further disasters’. - This proves that the Great Tribulation is still to come.
‘great ordeal’ – Some Bibles say ‘the great tribulation’, leading to wrongly thinking that the Day of the Lord’s wrath happens at the Return.
‘the scorching heat of the sun’, -The devastating CME sunstrike of the Sixth Seal.
‘The 144,000 Israelites’, They go out to the world to proclaim the coming Kingdom. Isaiah 66:19

keras · Feb 1, 2017

Revelation 6:12-17;
I watched as the Lamb broke the sixth seal, – At this moment a coronal mass ejection will explode out from the sun. Isaiah 30:26, Malachi 4:1, Zephaniah 3:8, Jeremiah 23:19 Triggered by the attack onto Israel, as per Psalms 83.

There was a violent earthquake – The microwave effect of the short wave spectrum penetrates the earth’s crust, triggering worldwide earthquakes. Haggai 2:6, Deut. 32:22, Isaiah 26:18-20, Amos 8:8-9, Psalm 18:7

The sun turned black as a funeral pall – The approaching mass of the CME will obscure the sun. Joel 2:31, Amos 5:20

The moon became a red as blood – The superheated hydrogen plasma strikes the moon and causes a thermite reaction with the aluminium oxide moon dust. Joel 2:31

The stars in the sky fell like ripe figs – All our satellites crash to earth and its likely there will be a meteor shower. Isaiah 34:4, Isaiah 28:2

The sky vanished like a scroll being rolled up – Our magnetosphere and atmosphere facing the sun are pushed aside by this great pressure wave. Jeremiah 30:23, Isaiah 34:4, 2 Peter 3:10, Isaiah 51:6

Every mountain and island moved from their place – Tectonic plate movement caused by the microwave effect. Jeremiah 4:23-24, Habakkuk 3:6, Isaiah 13:13 Also pole shift.

Everyone from high to lowly hid themselves – every person on earth will be terrified by what is coming and they scramble for cover. Ezekiel 7:15-19, Zeph. 1:3 & 11, Luke 21:25-26

They called out: Hide us from the wrath of the Lamb – People will hide and most will survive, as they see this disaster approaching. The main mass of a CME takes 24 hours to arrive on earth. Isaiah 2:19, Isaiah 28:21-22, Jeremiah 25:38, Luke 23:30

For the great Day of the Lord has come and who can stand? Deuteronomy 32:22, Ezekiel 7:7, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Joel 1:15. This is the great Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, prophesied over 100 times throughout the Bible, it is this terrible event that enables the establishment of a One World Government. But those who took heed of the warnings, Isaiah 26:20-21, took shelter and at the same time called to the Lord for protection, trusting to Him for salvation; they will ‘pass safely through all that is to come’ Luke 21:36, 1 Peter 1:5, Psalm 68:1-3, Joel 3:16 and will receive the great blessings the Lord has for His righteous people.

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