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There are teacher hiring fairs all the time. They're usually in March/April then during the summer. Google them. I live in Central California where they have plenty of open jobs!
As you say it is an idea. Any suggestions for how I can go about applying and where?

@rusmeister ; It would change my visa status greatly. Spousal visas are much more workable. However, given that I haven't been in a relationship in over 6 years, I doubt that will happen anytime soon.
 
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Does it have to be Cali? There are other places it is the norm ...

Again, I am so far out of the loop, I don't know. I look on linkin (among others) trying to find jobs, but the information is always vague. The logistics of moving back to the US is daunting to say the least. Adding in job hunting and it is downright scary.
 
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I can only speak about that with which I'm familiar. The People's Republic of Kalifornistan SSR is my home ^_^

Does it have to be Cali? There are other places it is the norm ...
 
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I would think living in a foreign, expensive, hard-to-find-work country would be worse!

Again, I am so far out of the loop, I don't know. I look on linkin (among others) trying to find jobs, but the information is always vague. The logistics of moving back to the US is daunting to say the least. Adding in job hunting and it is downright scary.
 
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Well, I don't know what you teach ... I'm not sure if Japanese would be potentially offered anywhere.

You know though, I really like working with ESOL students. They are among my favorites - tending to be respectful in general. And common core would not be such an issue. You don't have to know the languages as there are often half a dozen different language speakers in a class, sometimes more (though around here, Spanish, Vietnamese, Chinese, Arabic tend to be most common, and it's more helpful to speak some of those languages, but not essential; they usually hire paraprofessionals who can translate).

Some places have quite a shortage of teachers (though maybe not so much for ESOL). You could likely make some very general inquiries online. If you're actually interested in pursuing it. Not pushing, just offering a little info/suggestions in case it helps. :)
 
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Well, I did just that some 17 years ago, returned home from Russia to make a life as an ESL teacher in the States. After discovering that I couldn't get hired at all without a state certificate, and that I would have to apply to get into a program that takes at least two years (3 if you you count research and application) I despaired and moved to CA, where I found.... the same requirements. I wound up homeless for a while, but a friend and men's groups helped me pick myself up and I eventually achieved everything. Then I found the other sad truths about being a teacher in the public system; far from being a respected professional who tells people what they need, you are told what to do like a servant being given the silverware. Skipping the stories, I could see, as an unbelieving lazy agnostic, that the one thing that certainly wasn't going to be tolerated was any form of the Christian religion I had been raised with. What I saw drove me to faith and ultimately, to leave the states. You can read a lot more of my story here:
http://www.christianforums.com/threads/american-education-redux-ii.6072877/

Note when it was written, too. Posts #4, 5 and 8 have parts of my story.

Not saying you have no options coming home; only that meeting a cute Japanese Orthodox women (of which there are probably twenty or so in all of Tokyo, right?) and marrying would be very fortuitous. But as trite as it may sound, let God's will be done.
 
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Well ... it may vary from place to place. Perhaps it may depend on how much of a teacher shortage there is. Around here, you can be hired and then begin working on your certificate. (There are requirements though - I think a BA at minimum, but not necessarily a background in education?) A teacher who does not complete their certification within the time frame (2-3 years?) would likely be put on probation or more likely let go (essentially it IS a probationary period without certification). It is typically done online though, and mostly involves passing the tests.

I know of places where the school system is mostly all Christians. Of course one cannot teach Christianity to students, but there are places where it is far from a problem to be a Christian.

Not disagreeing with your experience, Rus. It's an absolute nightmare some places. But just to say there is some variation still. Though I will say those are mostly rural districts, not progressive, not so well funded, and so on. But to be honest, if I had children in school, I'd send them to a school like that rather than a well-funded more progressive school in what amounts to a worse area - I've seen much more violence, lack of respect, administrator burnout or lack of regulating, and the teaching methods are less effective, even with all the money they are throwing at some of those "problem districts".
 
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Well ... it may vary from place to place. Perhaps it may depend on how much of a teacher shortage there is. Around here, you can be hired and then begin working on your certificate. (There are requirements though - I think a BA at minimum, but not necessarily a background in education?) A teacher who does not complete their certification within the time frame (2-3 years?) would likely be put on probation or more likely let go (essentially it IS a probationary period without certification). It is typically done online though, and mostly involves passing the tests.

I know of places where the school system is mostly all Christians. Of course one cannot teach Christianity to students, but there are places where it is far from a problem to be a Christian.

Not disagreeing with your experience, Rus. It's an absolute nightmare some places. But just to say there is some variation still. Though I will say those are mostly rural districts, not progressive, not so well funded, and so on. But to be honest, if I had children in school, I'd send them to a school like that rather than a well-funded more progressive school in what amounts to a worse area - I've seen much more violence, lack of respect, administrator burnout or lack of regulating, and the teaching methods are less effective, even with all the money they are throwing at some of those "problem districts".
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Yes, of course there is some variation. But I think Gurney will agree that local schools can't actually defy state regulations. Being a teacher means accepting and surviving an indoctrination course that must be more intense than when I went through it, trying to keep under the radar in the school itself (from mandatory reporting laws to being reported for sharing your faith with a kid who has tried suicide, and so on), and sending your kids to a public school means they must undergo the public indoctrination buried in the rules, regulations and requirements, and rarely openly discussed, with no ability to defend themselves from it, as well as peers who will teach your kids to question their parents, first and foremost.

It may be the best move if Japan is really awful and there is no resolution there. You just need eyes wide open on things like this.
 
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Yes, of course there is some variation. But I think Gurney will agree that local schools can't actually defy state regulations. Being a teacher means accepting and surviving an indoctrination course that must be more intense than when I went through it, trying to keep under the radar in the school itself (from mandatory reporting laws to being reported for sharing your faith with a kid who has tried suicide, and so on), and sending your kids to a public school means they must undergo the public indoctrination buried in the rules, regulations and requirements, and rarely openly discussed, with no ability to defend themselves from it, as well as peers who will teach your kids to question their parents, first and foremost.

It may be the best move if Japan is really awful and there is no resolution there. You just need eyes wide open on things like this.

Yes, even in the rural schools the students still have to take all the same tests (which are TAKING OVER the school year here!).

I'm really curious how they score.

I detest teaching math using new methods to early elementary. I was in one school last year, and I did the whole scripted thing we are supposed to teach and the class just kept staring at me with this blank look on their faces, like I had three heads. I was getting a bit frustrated of how to reach them. Then they suddenly realized what the expected answer was, and it was "Oh! We do this!" And they already knew how to do the work, even a year or so beyond what I was trying to teach. That's how I first found some schools (or at least some teachers) are doing their "own thing". They seem to be doing MUCH better. The ones coming into middle and especially high school from some of the schools can't do even VERY basic math, and are beyond being able to catch up in normal classes anymore. The teachers in those schools are very frustrated.
 
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In a way this is nice to watch the conversation. Several things have popped up that is interesting for me.

Humorously, I tried to be a Christian in a Catholic school and that upset some of the teachers. When we talk about indoctrination, Japan is basically an assembly line education system. You study for tests and only for tests. If you fall behind, oh well, you won't fail but your future is done. You are your test scores. Low and mid score students have little chance for real help. But if you have a high score, they will bend over backwards to keep the grade high, even to changing the grading system mid-year. I had a teacher accuse me of giving a false score to a kid on a speaking test. Thankfully he came forward and admitted that yes, he deserved the poor score.

The hypocrisy of the system is also amazing. They try to push that the system (Japanese life) is happy and good for you and yet the teaching style is almost 100% negativity and runs into bullying sometimes. Without a moral compass, the systems just goes every which way.

To me rural would be better than a city any day of the week and twice on Saturday. I'm a country boy. I have eyed the smaller islands on Hawaii more than once. A dream I know.

As for wives, the northern part has more of an Orthodox presence. In my area, I do not know. Due to work and mental stress, I had to stop going to church (an hour and a half commute). Father George came out to see me sometimes. But the last time was two days before my emergency move. Sometime after that, he moved to a new parish and I have yet to meet the new priest. It's hard to make the trip in (cost and commute now) and my Japanese isn't the best over the phone (tinnitus). It also causes a level of social anxiety as I, like here, have dropped off the radar.
 
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