The Spirit of God and the Holy Ghost
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I believe there are no dead end turns, which may have been inevitable with the lessor light. But now, today; in the greater light and in due time, the apostle Paul with the KJV Revelation.It's like chasing the edge of the Universe, but its faster than light. lol
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in some passages It is represented as a male (as in Daniel 11 where It can be seen as the "king of the north" and the "king of the south" - the two main aspects of the Holy Spirit, the so-called "north wind" and "south wind"), in others - as a female (as in Song of Songs and specifically in Matthew 12:42 and Luke 11:31 where it is represented as a "queen" - in the two mentioned verses of Matthew and Luke there is speak specifically of the "south wind")
so it is hard to say what kind of gender the Holy Spirit exactly is
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Thank you, toLiJC. Have you looked at Exodus 31:3 & Exodus 35:31 with Isaiah 11:2-3, and then Revelation 3:1; to begin with.
and blessings to you...
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This casts a clue that that scripture is from the beginning. That and the capitalization of "LORD God" in Psalms 69:6 and "Lord God" in Psalms 71:5 may give us some indication of time frame.
What does that mean? Never mind, I'll look it up. And please be aware that I have said nothing about any other sacred text. Because of John 21:25! Amen.
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benelchi
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Because "spirit" in Hebrew can be understood as either masculine or feminine, the gender must be determined by other grammatical markers. In the first two examples, gender cannot be determined. In the Greek "spirit" is neuter. Of your four examples, only one shows a feminine gender.
The bigger question: Why make an issue out of gender, when Scripture clearly does not. In neither the OT or the NT is "Spirit" definitively male or female.
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This casts a clue that that scripture is from the beginning. That and the capitalization of "LORD God" in Psalms 69:6 and "Lord God" in Psalms 71:5 that may give us some indication of time frame. Correct capitalization may be found with
Psalms 68:18 (KJV)
and
Psalms 69:6 (KJV)
and I noticed correct capitalization is not in my personal copy of the KJV Bible. I need a new Bible.
Psalms 68:18 (KJV)
and
Psalms 69:6 (KJV)
and I noticed correct capitalization is not in my personal copy of the KJV Bible. I need a new Bible.
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Good, I see, "LORD God as representing God the Father and Lord God as referencing the Spirit of God.
Or,
"LORD," represents the Holy Father, and, "God," for the Spirit of God. I like this way best.
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Yes, I know. Actually, I took that as a joke. I said, "lol". I thought it was obvious, sorry.
I can read English, I just don't read it like you? No offense, it's just what you have been taught and what I have discovered in the KJV Bible, differ.
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I don't care about any of that, this is how I would read 21st Century English; which is what we are to do in Paul's interpretation, beloved.
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I don't get your point here; please clarify. Because it most certainly does work well with Paul's 21st Century interpretation, which may be influenced by 21st Century knowledge.
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No, that was me having a conversation with no body here - blending two conversations - wrong thread. I will remove those refs from here.
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Nevertheless, you are in a, and please pardon my expression, different universe when it comes to reading KJV Scripture from the perspective Paul takes with the Revelation of Jesus Christ. This view works across the entire volume of text, to give knowledge through a very basic logic of association, example and so forth.
Pardon me; sir, but it wasn't me who made the issue. It goes along with the telling of the Spirit of God. Gender becomes paramount in Proverbs 8:22. I believe the Spirit of God is the help meet for our LORD the HOLY FATHER.
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