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Hello everyone, I was looking for advice and I found you. I am newly married to my best friend, we have been together for 10 years but married for 3 months. It has been a rocky 3 months when I thought we would have been in the honeymoon stage. First off he doesn't like my cooking, at all. He only likes my spaghetti and wings. So what i usually do is cook something i like and then spaghetti or wings. The problem is he is getting bored with those two things but then criticizes what i cook. I ask him to give me some kind of idea of what he wants me to cook and he says anything i want. but then i get criticized for what i do cook. I just feel like nothing i do is right around him. I get criticized for everything, nothing is good enough. I am not that happy right now and we are not intimate with one another at all. Please help.
 

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You were together with him for 10 years before and now there are problems?

Please see a counsellor. I have a gut feeling that the cooking isn't a main issue here.

I'll pray for you, dear.

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Maybe suggest the two of you take a cooking class together. Good for quality time and also figuring out what he likes. Or contact his mom for old recipes he used to like. You can also look online for new recipes together and see what he finds interesting and possibly good. Maybe take turns cooking and pay attention to what he makes and how he makes it. After being with him for ten years, you must know what kinds of foods he likes. Look for recipes to make his favourites if you don't already know how.
 
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I agree with Emmy. The problem isn't about cooking but about something deeper. What attracted you to each other 10 years ago, and what kept you together for 10 years? The early years of marriage are tough as you figure out how you're going to do life together, but when something as trivial as spaghetti is a symptom you are smart to get to the root cause of the problems -- and the sooner the better.
 
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I agree with Emmy. The problem isn't about cooking but about something deeper. What attracted you to each other 10 years ago, and what kept you together for 10 years? The early years of marriage are tough as you figure out how you're going to do life together, but when something as trivial as spaghetti is a symptom you are smart to get to the root cause of the problems -- and the sooner the better.
I agree that the issue is deeper. I have told him that we need to communicate better but he just blows me off. Throughout the 10 years, I didnt really cook for him. we went out alot and so i figured I knew what he liked to eat. But when i make it he doesnt like it. i think its my cooking, its not the food its me. even though my family said my cooking is great. I have asked for his favorite food and his friends have given me recipes and he has sent me recipes of things he would like. but when i cook them again he doesnt like them so its not the food its me. Which is why i feel like i cant do anything right.
 
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I agree that the issue is deeper. I have told him that we need to communicate better but he just blows me off. Throughout the 10 years, I didnt really cook for him. we went out alot and so i figured I knew what he liked to eat. But when i make it he doesnt like it. i think its my cooking, its not the food its me. even though my family said my cooking is great. I have asked for his favorite food and his friends have given me recipes and he has sent me recipes of things he would like. but when i cook them again he doesnt like them so its not the food its me. Which is why i feel like i cant do anything right.
You've taken a huge leap from "he doesn't like my cooking" to "I can't do anything right". Do you have self-esteem issues?

I don't think there's a right vs. wrong way to cook. You cook, and, assuming it's edible, someone else will either like it or not. No big deal. If they don't like it they can either do it themselves, acquire a taste for it, or the two of you can continue to eat out. The cooking thing is not a show-stopper. What are you going to do when you start disagreeing about money, sex, together time, etc.?

Try to get past the cooking thing as a molehill and build your life together based on the important stuff. Maybe he just doesn't like being married for some reason (not that he's given it a chance). Maybe he doesn't like someone else in his "space". Maybe he doesn't like the lack of alone time. There are lots of things that could be going on, but cooking is barely a bump, and it's not your "fault". It's just as much his fault whether he likes it or not. Don't beat yourself up about that.

Try getting him to open up to you (without nagging him). Talk to each other on a deeper level to see how he thinks these first few months are going. You're partners on this journey, not combatants. Start working together.
 
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Hello everyone, I was looking for advice and I found you. I am newly married to my best friend, we have been together for 10 years but married for 3 months. It has been a rocky 3 months when I thought we would have been in the honeymoon stage. First off he doesn't like my cooking, at all. He only likes my spaghetti and wings. So what i usually do is cook something i like and then spaghetti or wings. The problem is he is getting bored with those two things but then criticizes what i cook. I ask him to give me some kind of idea of what he wants me to cook and he says anything i want. but then i get criticized for what i do cook. I just feel like nothing i do is right around him. I get criticized for everything, nothing is good enough. I am not that happy right now and we are not intimate with one another at all. Please help.
Apparently, things went better when you weren´t cooking for him. So why not simply go back there?
(By extension: Apparently things went much better when you weren´t married but friends...).

It might be interesting to take a closer look at why and how and due to which changes you guys decided to turn this friendship into a romantic thing.
 
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I dont think of him as controlling. he just has a very assertive personality.

I see many warning signs in the comments you are making. You are 3 months into a lifetime commitment, this time is building the foundation and setting an expectation for your future relationship.
Marriage is a partnership if he is already taking a position that things like cooking are "your duties" He needs some training and so do you. Everything should be a partnership. I would recommend a couple things.
1) Counseling / marriage facilitator with a faith-based person or couple
2) Young married group - a place to share your issue and learn from others going through similar issues
3) Video series - Gary Smalley Hidden keys of a loving relationship
4) Video / book series - Gary Chapman Love Languages
A partnership should be equal not one sided. We all struggle in those first years and need to learn how to navigate this new life together. The sooner the two of you come together and develop a true partnership the sooner you will enter into a relationship with true love and respect. That feeling of being best friends should only grow not be suppressed and eventually squashed altogether. I think multiple people here are seeing and saying the same things. The warning signs are there, for those of use many years in they stand out like a black spot on a white page. I would encourage the two of you to sit down talk through our issue and get into some sort of program to help you develop a long lasting healthy relationship.

Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her - NIV Ephesians 5:25


Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres. - NIV 1 Corinthians 13:4




 
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My husband is trained as a chef. He does most of the cooking and he is very good at it.

I consider cooking a meal to be opening up oneself in a very vulnerable way. We are giving a gift of ourselves when we cook for others.

When I was a kid, my mom criticized my cooking, yet she wouldn't show me how. I dated two different men who liked the way my food tasted, but criticized my use of cooking utensils in the preparation of meals. These experiences made me feel extremely insecure about cooking for others.

My chef husband, who can cook better than any of those people, has never criticized my technique, nor food. He offers advice, only when I ask. I feel comfortable asking him for help.

That said, I still have insecurity when it comes to cooking. One thing that has helped me is that I bought a crockpot and some crockpot cookbooks. Crockpot meals are easy to prepare and so delicious.

I feel much more confidant preparing crockpot meals than any other type of cooking. My family enjoys the meals and I feel proud.

Maybe a crockpot will be a good solution for you. Maybe you can explain to your husband that you are cooking out of love for him and that his kindness and understanding would be most appreciated.

I pray that you both work through this is your new marriage. Congratulations, by the way!:clap:
 
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Does your husband criticize you in other ways, or is it just the food? I'm getting the impression this is not isolated to cooking. Were you happy with him before you got married? You said you aren't intimate - can you offer more information about that? The criticism of your cooking is a symptom of what sounds to be a larger problem, and discussing only this will barely scratch the surface.
 
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Thank you everyone for your words of advice. I have to admit i am insecure when it comes to cooking for him. I believe it is in part to the fact that he always talks about his mom, aunt and exgf cooking like it was the best ting but then doesn't like mine. I do wish he would appreciate the effort I put in it at least. he does not show emotions very well and I knew that all years dating him and knew that he would not change when married. I have talked with him about the fact i would like some appreciation, some nice words, something. I think taht is why it affects me more than it should.That is why we are not intimate, i dont feel appreciated which makes me feel like I am not wanted. I know we need some help, it wasn't that way when we were dating just after we married and i moved in. I have to get used to the way things have changed. I am going to suggest the book series Love languages or something like that to help us.
 
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Angela, I agree that seeking counseling would be a good idea, since things seem to go downhill in your partnership pretty fast (and they needn´t).
I also agree that you and your husband´s communication can be improved. Personally, I´d recommend Marshall Rosenbergs "Non-violent communication".
Yes, the cooking thing appears to be a symptom rather than the problem - but possibly the problem can be spotted by taking a closer look at the cooking thing. We don´t know much about the things actually said, we don´t know much at all - so anything we can offer here are hypotheses (and they can be dead wrong).

In my observation, problems coming up after moving together aren´t that uncommon, and there´s a certain logic to it. Understanding this logic mightn´t remove the problems, but it might make them less painful:
Even though the persons haven´t changed, the circumstances have changed significantly. I am assuming that a couple typically moves together because they expect an increase in emotional closeness. But suddenly two things have changed:
1. You learn that there a differences between you that you haven´t seen before. Differences in dealing with things, differences in priorities, differences in problem solving - in big and small things.
2. On top, differences that you have acknowledged before (but that didn´t have much significance because they didn´t affect you mutually) suddenly do affect you - simply because you can´t evade them anymore. They happen in your home, they happen in a place that used to be your comfort zone, a place of convenience (and not a place of being challenged)... your place of retreat. You have to factually deal with them (which you didn´t have to do before).
Things each of them was perfectly able to manage on their own effortlessly and in their way, now become an interpersonal thing, part of a relationship. Like, every single person can easily take the garbage out, but now that they´ve moved together, it suddenly is a (possibly controversial) topic. Things you´ve never even paid attention to (say, how the toothpaste-tube has to be handled - you just did it the way you did it), may suddenly be subject to the interaction with the other person.
Result: That which you have done with the intention of creating and embracing more closeness, results in countless experiences of separation.
Does this mean there´s something wrong with one of the persons? No.
Do differences in the way two persons handle things mean that they don´t love the other person anymore? No.
Unless...one or both of the persons have problem differenciating between *appreciating an action or a performance of the other person* and "appreciating the person".
Here: Even if we assume for a moment that your cooking were really terrible and the products uneatable - this wouldn´t take away from your value as a person and from your loveability. "He hates/criicizes my cooking" in no way implies "He hates/criticizes me".
Now, maybe (just maybe) the mental connection "good wife/good woman/loveable person = good cook" is but yours, not his?

Thank you everyone for your words of advice. I have to admit i am insecure when it comes to cooking for him. I believe it is in part to the fact that he always talks about his mom, aunt and exgf cooking like it was the best ting but then doesn't like mine.
Again: He doesn´t like your cooking. So what? I´m sure there´s things he does that you don´t like or you don´t like the way he does them, or you don´t like the results. I´m sure there´s things he isn´t particularly good at.
We don´t love persons for their performances, do we? ;)
I do wish he would appreciate the effort I put in it at least.
I don´t know, Angela. If he´d say "This tastes awful again, but it´s nice you keep trying." - would that really make things better for you?
It seems to me that it´s you who believes that being a bad cook might make you unloved or unloveable.

Rather, you are increasingly unsure about his love because he isn´t expressing his love for you in a way you are used to love being expressed.
he does not show emotions
Be careful what you wish for. :) Experiencing a loved one´s uninhibited emotions (particularly the negative ones) can be devastating (and even more so to a person who tends to be insecure and tends to feel responsible for the other person´s emotions).
i would like some appreciation, some nice words, something. I think taht is why it affects me more than it should.That is why we are not intimate, i dont feel appreciated which makes me feel like I am not wanted.
In my experience, there are people who tend to feel that intimacy is a means or a prerequisite for experiencing and creating emotional closeness in a partnership, and there are people who tend feel that intimacy is the result of emotional closeness and can only be had if other needs or requirements have been met.
It´s obvious how a person of type A and a person of type B will mutually and increasingly frustrate each others´ need for closeness, as they will reject each others´ attempts at creating, demonstrating and embracing closeness - unless they find a way of empathically expressing their needs to each other and learning to understand how the other person rolls.

I wish you guys all the best! :)
 
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we both work outside the home but he said that is my duty.
This sends up a red flag right here. In our home.....if one person criticizes how the other does something, then they are the one to get it done (as they are inferring they are better at it).
I have told him that we need to communicate better but he just blows me off.
This is another red flag. If you have a thought on your relationship (or *anything*) you shouldn't be blown off but listened to.....and heard.

I believe it is in part to the fact that he always talks about his mom, aunt and exgf cooking like it was the best ting but then doesn't like mine.
To be honest.....that's rude for him to do that (to praise other women to you).

I have to get used to the way things have changed.
I don't believe you do "have to get used to the way things have changed". This is NO way to live. You may want to look this over (the linked image) of what a healthy relationship ought to look like.
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That is why we are not intimate, i dont feel appreciated which makes me feel like I am not wanted.
I'm still not quite understanding this. Is he not affectionate with you....or are YOU not comfortable with affection from him right now?
 
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This sends up a red flag right here. In our home.....if one person criticizes how the other does something, then they are the one to get it done (as they are inferring they are better at it).

This is another red flag. If you have a thought on your relationship (or *anything*) you shouldn't be blown off but listened to.....and heard.


To be honest.....that's rude for him to do that (to praise other women to you).


I don't believe you do "have to get used to the way things have changed". This is NO way to live. You may want to look this over (the linked image) of what a healthy relationship ought to look like.
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Please read the post I quoted. The guy sounds abusive.
 
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