That statement, Mr. Tanner, shows your confusing 'evil' with 'sin'. Sin is rebellion, rejection, ignoring regarding God and His will. Sin is a form of evil, but evil is NOT in all cases sin.
I have never once confused the two. I have avoided making assumptions about you until now. Since you are adamant in disregarding the questions and it is clear you need to go back to school and retake Reading Comprehension - here I go. Oops, too late I just did.
If you read the statement that you quoted me saying - you would have realized I said that the Evil God sanctions CAN NOT BE SIN. I did not here define what evil was. So how you get that I am confused about the meanings is beyond me.
Again, you are failing to distinguish the two words. God does not command sin.
A little Reading comprehension is in order here. I said "what we (people in general) call evil or (what we call) sin God meant it for good. Again I did not define one or the other, nor did I confuse the two either.
"Designed"? In other words, you are suggesting God inspired or put the other brothers 'up to' selling Joseph into slavery? I find that rather blasphemous.
Uhm...Mr. Hebrew definition advocate - the word "Meant" is indicative of "Design" For that matter the hebrew definition is actually a little more sinister than that.
châshab
khaw-shab'
A primitive root; properly to
plait or interpenetrate, that is, (literally) to
weave or (generally) to
fabricate; figuratively to
plot or contrive (usually in a malicious sense); hence (from the mental effort) to
think,
regard,
value,
compute: - (make) account (of), conceive, consider, count, cunning (man, work, workman), devise, esteem, find out, forecast, hold, imagine, impute, invent, be like, mean, purpose, reckon (-ing be made), regard, think.
From 2nd Chronicles 18:20-22 (and the whole paragraph is longer). This is a curious passage, which seems to indicate God dealing in deception and untruth. It is not repeated anywhere. (The same incident is reported in 1st Kings 22.)
Matthew Henry's commentary indicates this passage should be understood as God allowing the prophets and king (Ahab the miserable husband of Jezebel) to believe their own lies. Without question, Ahab's rejection of God put Ahab in the position of not believing or paying heed to God's direction.
And the LORD said to him, 'By what means?' And he said, 'I will go out, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' And he said, 'You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go out
and do so.' Tis, tis, Mr. Hebrew Definition Advocate, Please look this phrase up. Oh, wait I'll do it for you: (It means (coupled with the rest of the sentence "Go And Do It" -
‛âśâh
aw-saw'
A primitive root; to
do or
make, in the broadest sense and widest application: - accomplish, advance, appoint, apt, be at, become, bear, bestow, bring forth, bruise, be busy, X certainly, have the charge of, commit, deal (with), deck, + displease, do, (ready) dress (-ed), (put in) execute (-ion), exercise, fashion, + feast, [fight-] ing man, + finish, fit, fly, follow, fulfil, furnish, gather, get, go about, govern, grant, great, + hinder, hold ([a feast]), X indeed, + be industrious, + journey, keep, labour, maintain, make, be meet, observe, be occupied, offer, + officer, pare, bring (come) to pass, perform, practise, prepare, procure, provide, put, requite, X sacrifice, serve, set, shew, X sin, spend, X surely, take, X thoroughly, trim, X very, + vex, be [warr-] ior, work (-man), yield, use.
And here I thought you were a Hebrew scholar. I'm certainly not, but the definitions do speak for themselves. Yet you rely on old Henry for your interpretation of this passage. M. Henry is (IMO) convoluted in his writings and opinions of what is what in the scriptures. J.Gill would be my preference for he (it seems) is more studied than Henry. (IMO)
So it seems. However, one notes Pharaoh had previously displayed a rather 'hard heart'. In reading the entire entry, one cannot understand this line to mean Pharaoh was a really nice guy who God decided to make evil.
The question was never about Pharaoh's character. Again, reading comprehension, my friend. Did God or did he not harden Pharaoh's heart?
Now to the question of murder, lying and adultery - If reading comprehension was your flair, then you would of understood that those questions stemmed from the question or statement about what men thought for evil, God meant for good.
Further that my questions and statements were meant to be answered not my character and intellect called into question. This I thought was a place were you could discuss these things and not squabble, and yet here I am guilty of squabbling over words with you.
Capital "G", unless you are referring to pagan 'gods'
Seriously? Reading comprehension in dire need here. The context would lead one with such a skill to know that was a type-o. Of course it is BIG G.
Mr. Tanner, you still seem to misunderstand a number of words - probably due in part to the translation from Hebrew to the English of 1611 and the difference between that English and current English. No doubt also to the rather casual indifference to the concepts in current preaching.
I suggest you invest in more than one commentary on the Bible and perhaps a couple of current translations of the Bible. There are also some reference books on Hebrew language and customs from which you would benefit.
I have studied multiple languages, lived in and been to multiple countries. I have studied Hebrew and Greek also.
I have multiple Versions of the scriptures, bible dictionaries, commentaries, and a plethora of scholarly works overflowing my bookshelves. And yes I have read them, made notes on them, written about them. I have taught and trained younger ministers. I have been around the block a time or two.
I have read the Bible multiple times from cover to cover and in-between.
"Casual indifference to the concepts in current preaching" My friend, you don't want me to get started on "Current Concepts in Preaching" I don't know what concepts you are referring to, but there are concepts that are coming across pulpits these days that are down right sinful.
Now, you riled me up with your assumptions about me. And I have made some about you in this post. but when it is all said and done - I hope that the both of us can come back down to earth and actually discuss these things. I look forward to many hearty conversations with you.
