If you have a terrible life will God [moved]

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From the very beginning, God created man, and put him in the garden of Eden. The word 'Eden' means enjoyment! So, Adam and Eve had everything they needed, did not lack anything, and God said that everything He has made, was good! The saints are called blessed. That means it will be well with us. That is what God wants for us, in the heaven or on earth.

And it says in the prayer that Jesus gave us; 'let your will be on earth, as it is in heaven'. What is happening in heaven? There is no sickness, no fear, no trouble, no lack, no depression, no killing, no hate.... That is the will of God on earth too!

Psalm119:50,52,92,93,107, Isaiah 61:1-3, Psalm 68:19, 2Corinthians 1:3-11, Psalm 115:3-8,
Psalm 107:41, Psalm 116:6-9, Psalm 22:24, Psalm 94:17-19, Psalm 142:2,3, Romans 15:13,
Psalm 121:1,3,7, Psalm 50:15, Psalm 34:6,17,18,19, Psalm 69, Psalm 37:24,39, Psalm 46:1,
Psalm 30:11, 31:6-10, Psalm 62, Psalm 6, Psalm 147:3, 4:16-18, 7:6, 12:8,9,10, Lamentations 3:1-66,
 
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Shoot girl, most of that be about my life that you be describing!
My parents were dirt poor, dad died when I was a toddler, mom
struggling with many illnesses, an lost many jobs due to health issues...she have 3 children to see to. No car, very little to no money happening on a regular basis. It be a good thing that dad taught us how to farm, hunt and fish just as soon as we could walk and talk.
My aunties/uncles etc be all dead except two and they never came forward to be an aunty no how...just in name only....most of my people be the same way...relatives in name only.

Friends be few an far between most of my life...being poor and not having nice things to wear don't draw in the friends...school was very hard but we all graduated...thank the Lord, who saw us through all that!

I couldn't have children nor would I able to adopt either, I had a lot of responsibilities put off on me early in life. I worked long hours to keep bills paid and support my sick mom....my older siblings left home once they graduated...one brother sent financial support for a year and then he bowed out to do his on thing just like our older brother did.
God and the bible be faithful...saw me through many hard times.

I walked to work lots of times back then...church members drove right on by me M-F, then on Sunday they be acting like I'm family?...people please!
Then there was the bad first marriage to an unsaved man...my choice, because I believed my "associates/friends" that any man be better than no man...I found out how wrong that was!!!

Enough with all the bad... now here come the good stuff--- God, my long walk with HIm and His Word. I struggled with believing He was going to improve things...I went back and forth, believing, not believing. Then I got to where I believed what He promised and I walked in that until it manifested...I got there by reading what He done for others in the bible and in the lives of people who were long in they walks with the Lord. All that helped me see that God be faithful.

Others around me were cruel and would mock me, mock my faith in God, say I was lying about stuff, try to set me up for stealing etc. No matter what I kept focused on walking with the Lord and believing scripture and doing what it say to do.
I decided on being the best little caregiver ever, I worked hard, attended church, read my bible, prayed, helped others etc.

I was 35 when things in my life really started changing...better job came along at the nursing agency, I started making crazy money, my caregiving job continued but I would go on to being self employed as a CNA, no more agency.
It was hard going in the beginning... but in time me and my client became really great friends and she made up for those times she was a pain in the you know what lol!
I've lived, traveled, been around the wealthy/celebs, shopped at the best stores, had my time in social circles etc. However, that life was false and I didn't want it any more...I wasn't going to trade the Lord for "the world" and that's what it came down to in the end.
But none of that society life compares to the relationship I have with the Lord...it still blows my mind that the Lord, opened the doors for what some would call a lowly caregiver(me), who only graduated from high school and had only a scant bit of time at college to get certified to be a caregiver/CNA.
Nobody I went to school with saw me being anything other than another black woman barely scraping by in life.

Also, I have my own health issues... but I would meet a godly man who didn't see it as a hinderance or turn off... we'd go on an get married...when I married the second time, I was almost 37.
He'd been married before(he's older) and have 3 grown children who are married and were adding grandbabies to the family quicker that anything back then.

You see...A long time ago I use to joke a lot about having grandbabies first, who but God could pull that off? lol.

I purposed to live for the Lord no matter what.
I accept the good and the bad in life...I'm content in whatever circumstance. God's grace be sufficient.
Now, don't get me wrong, that don't mean I don't ever be sad, bitter, disappointed etc.... the thing is, I don't live in the house of sadness, bitterness, disappointment etc. I know it not good to give the devil room to mess with you...and believe me, he will mess with you if you go an live in the house of bitterness, disappointment etc.

Scripture for you:
Revelation 21:4
1 Corinthians 2:9
Revelation 22:1-5
Matthew 6:19-21
1 Timothy 6:17-19
That's amazing and gives me hope my crummy life can tu4n around... I hate when church people do that..say your family and drive right by you.. 2Not even do the basics when it comes to human decency. I hope my life can change :)
 
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What about the Christians living in ISIS. Persecuted, raped and executed. Their reaction shows how I believe God "makes up for it", by giving them a peace and love that surpasses understanding. I've read testimonies of them forgiving, preaching to and praying for their rapists during the act of it happening and others thanking Jesus for being with them before execution.

Scripture speaks a lot about heaven with things like the parable of the wedding banquet, but I dont think there will be any degree of making up for things in this life. To think there will be shows a lack of vision of what heaven is like. Living in the presence of God and His perfect love will be far greater than most people imagine. Just think, you will be able to enter the throne room of God and worship Him for as long as you want. There is also the question of the bride and 7 brothers where Jesus says it shows a lack of understanding. When you are in the presence of perfect love and peace beyond anything on this earth we dont need any more, he is fully sufficient.

So no, I dont think God makes up for it in heaven as there is no need to. I dont think its His character to judge differences in peoples lives, otherwise sin would not be straightforward and the bible would teach us about different levels of sin.

To think God needs to make up to people for a poor life by Western standards when there are people in the world who are starving and suffering severe persecution shows a lack of understanding and compassion for those worse off than yourself. There are probably billions of people worldwide who would be thankful for the life described. Learn to appreciate what you have rather than covet a better lifestyle. I know the sinful nature of the flesh desires worldly gain, but if you have a job in the west you are already one of the richest people in the world. I think its if you have a car, any car of any age in any condition, and have any spare change in your pocket you are one of the richest 10% in the world.

Definitely. In the sermon at our church today, I was struck again at what spiritual wealth people who live in poverty often have. The pastor was talking about poor farmers in Aratrea (sp?) who gave up a valuable time harvesting crops to hear the word of God. He spoke of them commenting on how much more valuable it was to them to hear the word of God (and was brought close to tears while relating what happened).

So, to the original question, I don't think God will "make up" to those who don't have much temporal blessings in the way it appears you are asking about. We all live under the curse of God and deserve nothing at his hands. Whatever blessings he does give to us, temporal or other, are far beyond what we have a claim to.

But I do understand what you are saying though. It is so, so hard while living in the western world (at least I find it hard) to appreciate what you have spiritually and not get caught up in temporal comforts. It is a great misfortune (to my understanding at least) that it seems that with physical comfort comes spiritual dryness--those who enjoy the comforts the world has to offer often do not have a deep, mature spiritual life. We don't understand how far, far better it is to have Jesus as our Saviour than say, living in a home you love and having a job that is delightful. The job and the home just seems more pleasureful (this is how it is to me at least, as I am sinful).

It takes a great work of the Holy Spirit to become more spiritually mature and to distance ourself from the things of this world. What can help is to partake of the means of grace such as reading God's word, praying, and attending church as well as fellowshipping with those at church. Of course, it probably will take many years and who knows how far along the Spirit will take you in sanctification. Yet, this world is passing away and none of the pleasures of it will be there after you die. A far greater treasure is one that will not perish, and that can only be had by eternal fellowship with God. That is what Jesus accomplished for us.
 
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If you have a bad life on this earth and struck with misfortune do you think God will make up for it?

Do you think heaven really makes up for things people miss out on in this life such as no children, death of family members, no spouse, no sex, no friends, being poor and never getting to go anywhere? Having to work a boring retail job and die getting nowhere in life? Kids dying?

Not that these things have happened to me just wondering.... especially cause we haven't exactly seen heaven.

scriptures have the answers for these things for us
2 Cor 2:14 Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. KJV

For every situation that we have to face in life, scripture gives us instructions on how to experience 2 Cor 2:14.
 
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The Bible also says blessed are they that mourn for they will receive comfort. I noticed it gives a lot of promises to everyone in general.... I could be wrong, but I don't see how or why God would allow people to have a life full of tragedy on earth and then burn in the next life. The Bible says people send themselves to hell and isn't everyone on earth supposed to hear the gospel before they die?

It just... I can't understand it. How can God give one person a mountain to overcome and then another a rock and say the overcome goes to heaven? People that don't suffer in this life have way less to overcome to get into heaven. It would be easier for them.

What if you never really knew God and all you knew was anger because of how bad you were treated all your life whereas Brittany the cheerleader grew up with all the friends in the world because she was popular and born with 'good genes', loving parents, had a trust fund, never had to work because she went to a ring by spring college and got married easily because she was the typical blonde haired blue eyed 'American beauty' and had kids with a man that supported her 100% and made a good amount of money. She grew old and had kids that took care of her all her life and died a devout Christian ie the Mary Sue Christian.

As opposed to someone who was left to starve to death and never heard about Christ at all? Would God just let that person burn?

I'm not measuring a good life by just possessions or money. I mean struck by misfortune. Imo someone can live in the first world and have a harder life than in the third world. Money doesn't always mean your life is easy.

For example if take poor kids in the third world but they have loving parents, a safe place to sleep, friends, and are happy they are not really struck with misfortune. Likewise, take someone in the 1st world they grow up with drug addict parents, beaten all the time, house is dirty, no clean place to sleep, grow up in the ghetto so it's not safe outside, they have no friends, they spend half their life in prison because of a false crime, they get shot, stabbed, etc... thats a misfortunate life. Many middle class westernized people forget you don't have to live in Africa to have it bad, not all of us have middle class lives here in America.

Anyway, now that I've pointed that out... I just want to say I was listening to this preacher the other day say something about Christians leaving out success and prosperity and thus leaving out half the gospel. His point was that we go and preach the gospel but leave people don't receive it because they are starving and dying and sick and we don't bring prosperity and success with it ie we go to preach the gospel to people starving and leave and they can't receive what we are preaching cause they are starving. We bring them the gospel and then leave them in the same case they were and they are wondering where is God when I'm hungry and dying? It just

The church today is not like it was back then and I can't see why God would judge people who haven't suffered and who have suffered by the same standards believers or not.
 
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The OP says "will God make up" for us having a crummy life.

What a terrible question. It implies that God owes us something. Does the OP not realize that we are rebels born into a rebel world? Nothing about us requires God to "make up" to us for this life and it's trials & tribulations.
If God were to damn us to hell, we would get our just desserts. By granting us pardon, God has gone far beyond our wildest dreams in blessing us. What more do we imagine we deserve?
Let us be grateful, no matter what trials come our way. We are redeemed. That is blessing beyond compare.
 
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The OP says "will God make up" for us having a crummy life.

What a terrible question. It implies that God owes us something. Does the OP not realize that we are rebels born into a rebel world? Nothing about us requires God to "make up" to us for this life and it's trials & tribulations.
If God were to damn us to hell, we would get our just desserts. By granting us pardon, God has gone far beyond our wildest dreams in blessing us. What more do we imagine we deserve?
Let us be grateful, no matter what trials come our way. We are redeemed. That is blessing beyond compare.

It's not a terrible question. Saying that God who loves us should damn all of humanity and we'd get what we deserve is terrible and illogical. That's legalism not grace. Clearly God thought so too cause he made a way we wouldn't be damned. It's not saying God owes us it's asking if God God will have mercy on people that suffer. Will there be some point to everything they went through?
 
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It's not a terrible question. Saying that God who loves us should damn all of humanity and we'd get what we deserve is terrible and illogical. That's legalism not grace. Clearly God thought so too cause he made a way we wouldn't be damned. It's not saying God owes us it's asking if God God will have mercy on people that suffer. Will there be some point to everything they went through?

It is biblical.
It's not legalism, it's reality.
Grace is God seeing our rebel nature and behavior, yet choosing to pardon us despite who we are.
God chooses not to damn those whom he wills. He damns the rest to hell because hell is what we rebels deserve.
God shows mercy to us everyday by not casting us into hell for our rebellion. God is patient, merciful and kind to us rebels. He doesn't owe us anything, yet He is merciful anyway.
We need to understand that God hates our sin. His wrath is kindled because of our sin. God loves his son and it is only because of the son's payment for sin that we stand before God and are loved. Don't ever imagine that you or I are ever lovely in and of ourselves. No, we are wretched rebels, whom God saves by grace. Read John Newton's hymn, Amazing Grace, and understand what he spoke. Be grateful for God's mercy and grace, which is undeserved.
 
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