7 Day creation- literal or figurative?

Riberra · Nov 26, 2016

Kenneth Redden said:
There is but one interpretation in the KJV Bible, and that is the interpretation of the six days of the creation, 2 Peter 1:20; because Genesis one is about the six days of the Creation.

2 Peter 1:20
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

The six days of [re]formation since the destruction of the Earth's surface and biosphere by a total flood of the World that then was mentioned in Genesis 1:2 to put in place the Heavens and the Earth which are NOW are not prophecies ...

But 2 Peter 3:7-13 is a prophecy who concern the Heavens and the Earth which are NOW.
2 Peter 3:7-13
7 But the heavens and the earth, /which are now,/ by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men,
....
/will be replaced by a New Heaven and a New Earth's [surface]without sea(s) Revelation 21 after the Great White Throne Judgment./
...
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 26, 2016

miamited said:
Hi kenneth,

Buy a thesaurus! I agree that the word 'sex' is not in the Scriptures, until I get to the place where it tells me about the people of Sodom banging on Lot's door. Oh, and when Moses tells the people to prepare themselves by abstaining from sexual relations. When I write 'sexual' union or relations, I am merely using a word today which reasonably equates to what the Scriptures are telling us when they say that a 'man lay with a woman'. I'm fairly confident that it doesn't mean that they just went to bed and went to sleep, otherwise there wouldn't have been children born as a result of that action that the Scriptures are speaking of.

Also, writing KJB bible is saying the King James bible bible. It should be either KJV bible to say the King James Version bible or KJB alone, which would mean the King James bible. I'm sure that it's likely just a small thing, but such small things can cause people to misread what is intended by the author. Personally, I have no problem with writing 'sexual relation' in place of 'lay with' and I strongly doubt that either creates any misunderstanding when reading the Scriptures, as both are used within them to also intend the reader to understand the same thing. Moses meant to let the people know that they should not have sex with their husbands or wives that night and God intended for us to understand that Adam and Eve had sex with each other from which a child was conceived.

God bless you,
In Christ, Ted

No, you can't use a thesaurus; hell, you might as well use an NIV Bible and forget the whole matter entirely.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 26, 2016

Riberra said:
2 Peter 1:20
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

The six days of [re]formation since the destruction of the Earth's surface and biosphere by a total flood of the World that then was mentioned in Genesis 1:2 to put in place the Heavens and the Earth which are NOW are not prophecies ...

But 2 Peter 3:7-13 is a prophecy who concern the Heavens and the Earth which are NOW.
2 Peter 3:7-13
7 But the heavens and the earth, /which are now,/ by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men,
....
/will be replaced by a New Heaven and a New Earth's [surface]without sea(s) Revelation 21 after the Great White Throne Judgment./
...
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

2 Peter 3:3-8 is a doublet of Genesis 1, beginning, "from the beginning," in 2 Peter 3:3. So; "now" in 2 Peter 3:7, must be the third day because of mention of the second day in 2 Peter 3:5-6. However; "now," in 2 Peter 3:7 may also reference the fourth day, for those reading the KJV Bible today.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 26, 2016

Riberra said:
2 Peter 1:20
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

The six days of [re]formation since the destruction of the Earth's surface and biosphere by a total flood of the World that then was mentioned in Genesis 1:2 to put in place the Heavens and the Earth which are NOW are not prophecies ...

But 2 Peter 3:7-13 is a prophecy who concern the Heavens and the Earth which are NOW.
2 Peter 3:7-13
7 But the heavens and the earth, /which are now,/ by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men,
....
/will be replaced by a New Heaven and a New Earth's [surface]without sea(s) Revelation 21 after the Great White Throne Judgment./
...
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, 12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

I don't understand what you are saying? I don't see the word, "biosphere" in any Bible. Where did you get it? Btw, you cannot add anything to scripture.

miamited · Nov 26, 2016

Kenneth Redden said:
No, you can't use a thesaurus; hell, you might as well use an NIV Bible and forget the whole matter entirely.

Hi kenneth,

I'm curious. Is it the word 'sex' that so offends you?

And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

What were the words of the men intending to let Lot and angels know that they wanted with them?

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

It is your contention that because Adam knew his wife's name that she conceived and bare Cain?

Because I find that the act of sexual relations is sprinkled throughout the Scriptures. Although, you are correct that the King James translation of the Scriptures does not have the word 'sex' in it.

I'm going to be in quite a lot of trouble with my wife. I know a lot of women. I even know the pastor's wife. He's probably going to be pretty upset when his wife turns up pregnant because she knows me. However, I'm perfectly willing to forget the matter.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

Kenneth Redden · Nov 27, 2016

miamited said:
Hi kenneth,

I'm curious. Is it the word 'sex' that so offends you?

And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

What were the words of the men intending to let Lot and angels know that they wanted with them?

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.

It is your contention that because Adam knew his wife's name that she conceived and bare Cain?

Because I find that the act of sexual relations is sprinkled throughout the Scriptures. Although, you are correct that the King James translation of the Scriptures does not have the word 'sex' in it.

I'm going to be in quite a lot of trouble with my wife. I know a lot of women. I even know the pastor's wife. He's probably going to be pretty upset when his wife turns up pregnant because she knows me. However, I'm perfectly willing to forget the matter.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

Hi Ted,

That’s adding the idea of “sex,” to God’s Word. And you should know, Ted; you can’t do that. The KJV Bible says, "know," and that's all I know.
In fact, I believe that it is to know the, "doctrine," from which the body is made. I believe that Adam and Eve may have held the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, Revelation 2:15, as the reason for their nakedness.

miamited · Nov 27, 2016

Good morning kenneth,

Ok.

God bless you,
In Christ, Ted

Kenneth Redden · Nov 27, 2016

Riberra said:
The days of creation are not about prophecies ....
2 Peter 1:20
20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

Excuse please, but I don't think "that no prophecy of the scripture," means that there isn't any prophecy of the scripture. It means that all "prophecy of the scripture," comes from the Holy Ghost.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 27, 2016

miamited said:
Good morning kenneth,

Ok.

God bless you,
In Christ, Ted

Thank you, Ted and may God bless you.

Riberra · Nov 27, 2016

Kenneth Redden said:
Excuse please, but I don't think "that no prophecy of the scripture," means that there isn't any prophecy of the scripture. It means that all "prophecy of the scripture," comes from the Holy Ghost.

I said that the Book of Genesis is not a book of prophecies.

Riberra · Nov 27, 2016

Kenneth Redden said:
I don't understand what you are saying? I don't see the word, "biosphere" in any Bible. Where did you get it? Btw, you cannot add anything to scripture.

I have not added to scripture ....the Earth's biosphere is real.Everything on this Earth will be replaced by something new [a new creation]...On the New Earth....and there will be no more sea.....Revelation 21:1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere

The biosphere is the global sum of all ecosystems. The two joined words are "bio" and "sphere". It can also be termed as the zone of life on Earth, a closed system (apart from solar and cosmic radiation and heat from the interior of the Earth), and largely self-regulating.[1] By the most general biophysiological definition, the biosphere is the global ecological system integrating all living beings and their relationships, including their interaction with the elements of the lithosphere, geosphere, hydrosphere, and atmosphere.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 27, 2016

Riberra said:
I said that the Book of Genesis is not a book of prophecies.

Yes, I believe that Genesis is a history of the beginning of the creation.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 27, 2016

Riberra said:
I have not added to scripture ....the Earth's biosphere is real.Everything on this Earth will be replaced by something new [a new creation]...On the New Earth....and there will be no more sea.....Revelation 21:1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biosphere

The biosphere is the global sum of all ecosystems. The two joined words are "bio" and "sphere". It can also be termed as the zone of life on Earth, a closed system (apart from solar and cosmic radiation and heat from the interior of the Earth), and largely self-regulating.[1] By the most general biophysiological definition, the biosphere is the global ecological system integrating all living beings and their relationships, including their interaction with the elements of the lithosphere, geosphere, hydrosphere, and atmosphere.

The word, "biosphere," does not present an issue in the KJV Bible.

Riberra · Nov 27, 2016

Riberra · Nov 27, 2016

Kenneth Redden said:
The word, "biosphere," does not present an issue in the KJV Bible.

Not to worry about.
What is your interpretation of Revelation 21:1 ?

Revelation 21:1
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 28, 2016

Riberra said:
I said that the Book of Genesis is not a book of prophecies.

Yes; I agreed and said that I think that Genesis is the history of the beginning, unto the third day of the Creation.

Kenneth Redden · Nov 28, 2016

Riberra said:
Not to worry about.
What is your interpretation of Revelation 21:1 ?

Revelation 21:1
21 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

Revelation 21:1 is the sixth day, which started from the fifth day in Revelation 20:7, as described in 2 Peter 3:8; and as Revelation 20:4 is prophesied by Revelation 6:9-10.

Riberra · Nov 30, 2016

Aman777 said:
Today remains the 6th Day since God is STILL creating Adam (mankind) in His Image. Gen 1:27

GENESIS FINDS ITS COMPLEMENT
IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION.

1 Genesis, the book of the beginning.-- / Revelation the book of the end

2 The Earth created (Genesis 1:1).--/Revelation 21:1 The Earth passed away

3 Satan first rebellion -----/Revelation 20:3,7-10 Satan's final rebellion

4 Sun, moon and stars for Earth's government (Genesis 1:14-16)./In Revelation Sun, moon, and stars, connected with Earth's judgment (Revelation 6:13;Revelation 8:12;Revelation 16:8)./

5 Sun to govern the day (Genesis 1:16).---/No need of the sun (Revelation 21:23).

6 Darkness called night (Genesis 1:5).---/No night there" (Revelation 22:5).

7 Waters called seas (Genesis 1:10).---/"No more sea" (Revelation 21:1).

8 A river for Earth's blessing (Genesis 2:10-14)./A river for the New Earth (Revelation 22:1-2).
More:
http://www.therain.org/appendixes/app3.html

Riberra · Dec 1, 2016

Aman777 said:
Amen, but in Noah's 600th year it rained for the first time. Gen 7:6

That's right ...

Aman777 said:
This event happened on the present 6th Day in the Creation of the perfect 3rd Heaven.

What do you mean by the the Creation of the perfect 3rd Heaven ?

Aman777 said:
The rain scared Noah so bad, he refused to come out of the Ark for two months AFTER he knew the Earth was dry. Gen 8:13

Noah came out of the Ark ONLY after God promised him that never again would He destroy the Earth with rain. Gen 9:11

It seem that God in Genesis 9:13-17 imply that the bow in the sky [Rainbow] -was- a new sign , am i correct?
That mean that there was no clouds in the sky since the creation of the Earth till Noah's flood....Knowing that the formation of a rainbow
is caused by reflection, refraction and dispersion of light in water droplets It takes the form of a multicoloured arc. Rainbows caused by sunlight always appear in the section of sky directly opposite the sun.

Aman777 said:
It rained only once on Adam's world and it totally destroyed it. ll Peter 3:6

Your error is to believe that Adam's world was some kind of another world ...

Aman777 said:
Can you imagine the fear when those in the Ark heard a thunderstorm coming on the present Earth?

Effectively .

Kenneth Redden · Dec 1, 2016

Riberra said:
GENESIS FINDS ITS COMPLEMENT
IN THE BOOK OF REVELATION.

1 Genesis, the book of the beginning.-- / Revelation the book of the end

2 The Earth created (Genesis 1:1).--/Revelation 21:1 The Earth passed away

3 Satan first rebellion -----/Revelation 20:3,7-10 Satan's final rebellion

4 Sun, moon and stars for Earth's government (Genesis 1:14-16)./In Revelation Sun, moon, and stars, connected with Earth's judgment (Revelation 6:13;Revelation 8:12;Revelation 16:8)./

5 Sun to govern the day (Genesis 1:16).---/No need of the sun (Revelation 21:23).

6 Darkness called night (Genesis 1:5).---/No night there" (Revelation 22:5).

7 Waters called seas (Genesis 1:10).---/"No more sea" (Revelation 21:1).

8 A river for Earth's blessing (Genesis 2:10-14)./A river for the New Earth (Revelation 22:1-2).
More:
http://www.therain.org/appendixes/app3.html

I believe Satan's first rebellion was in Isaiah 14:13-14, according to John 8:44 and Revelation 2:13.

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