In order to keep a covenant, one's understanding of the terms of the covenant would matter. Without understanding the "rules" of the covenant, the covenant can't be kept.
Indeed it can't. So then what?
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In order to keep a covenant, one's understanding of the terms of the covenant would matter. Without understanding the "rules" of the covenant, the covenant can't be kept.
The rules are not only verbal, but how things work in God's love.how can a man be sure he is following the right rules?
There is the Jewish Law and there is the commands of Jesus, summed up in the Great Commandments, the sermon on the mount, and Matthew 25.
This relates to the earlier verses about the struggle that Paul notices between his mind and his flesh. Sometimes the word 'carnal' is also used to represent the flesh or sin nature.I have questions about the "rules" and the "law" given in order to fulfill the word of the new covenant. Here are some verses I'm pondering:
Romans 7:25
As above, what is the difference between the "law of God" and the "law of sin"?
The New Covenant cannot be annulled.And what are the consequences for you if those rules are broken? Is the new covenant broken and annulled?
I have questions about the "rules" and the "law" given in order to fulfill the word of the new covenant. Here are some verses I'm pondering:
Romans 3:27
What is the difference between the "law of works" and the "law of faith"? What are the "laws" of each, and how does the latter "exclude boasting"?
Romans 7:25
As above, what is the difference between the "law of God" and the "law of sin"?
Romans 8:2
The same question: what is the difference between the "law of the Spirt of life in Christ Jesus" and the "law of sin and death"; and how does the former "liberate" from the latter?
James 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
What is the "law of liberty"? Does it have "rules"? How do rules liberate? Are rules not, restrictive? Chains?
When answering, please be as specific as possible so that one might know what "rules" they are under and if they are obligated to perform these rules, and the consequence of not doing so. If one has placed themselves under a set of rules to follow, how is boasting "excluded" from one's ability to perform these rules?
Bonus question: if there is no consensus given in the thread as to the "rules" of the new covenant; how can a man be sure he is following the right rules?
I have questions about the "rules" and the "law" given in order to fulfill the word of the new covenant. Here are some verses I'm pondering:
Romans 3:27
What is the difference between the "law of works" and the "law of faith"? What are the "laws" of each, and how does the latter "exclude boasting"?
The Law of the Spirit (notice the capital 'S' which denotes diety or God), so this is the Holy Spirit.I have questions about the "rules" and the "law" given in order to fulfill the word of the new covenant. Here are some verses I'm pondering:
Romans 8:2
The same question: what is the difference between the "law of the Spirt of life in Christ Jesus" and the "law of sin and death"; and how does the former "liberate" from the latter?
So no rules need to be taught? What about no idolatry, no fornication, no slander, no homosexual acts, and other commandments taught in the New Testament?Law of faith would see that you live with much faith. The just shall live by faith.
There is such a thing as Natural Law. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_lawLaws of nature aren't rules you follow; they are how things are guaranteed to work.
You are so right. The Great Commandments, and the principles taught in the Sermon on the Mount, are all contained in the Torah, which any Rabbi can show you.There is the Jewish Law and there is the commands of Jesus, summed up in the Great Commandments, the sermon on the mount, and Matthew 25.
Jews know.How will anyone know ?
You are so right. The Great Commandments, and the principles taught in the Sermon on the Mount, are all contained in the Torah, which any Rabbi can show you.
Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. Deuteronomy 6:5
Do not seek revenge or bear a grudge against anyone among your people, but love your neighbor as yourself. I am the Lord Leviticus 19:18
I have questions about the "rules" and the "law" given in order to fulfill the word of the new covenant. Here are some verses I'm pondering:
Romans 3:27
What is the difference between the "law of works" and the "law of faith"? What are the "laws" of each, and how does the latter "exclude boasting"?
John Hyperspace said:Romans 7:25
As above, what is the difference between the "law of God" and the "law of sin"?
John Hyperspace said:Romans 8:2
The same question: what is the difference between the "law of the Spirt of life in Christ Jesus" and the "law of sin and death"; and how does the former "liberate" from the latter?
John Hyperspace said:James 2:12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
What is the "law of liberty"? Does it have "rules"? How do rules liberate? Are rules not, restrictive? Chains?
John Hyperspace said:When answering, please be as specific as possible so that one might know what "rules" they are under and if they are obligated to perform these rules, and the consequence of not doing so. If one has placed themselves under a set of rules to follow, how is boasting "excluded" from one's ability to perform these rules?
John Hyperspace said:Bonus question: if there is no consensus given in the thread as to the "rules" of the new covenant; how can a man be sure he is following the right rules?
""If you come across your enemy's ox or donkey wandering off, be sure to return it.If you see the donkey of someone who hates you fallen down under its load, do not leave it there; be sure you help them with it." Exodus 23:4-5Jesus required more than these laws from the Torah. Jesus asked us to love our enemies (Matt. 5:44). This requires faith.
""If you come across your enemy's ox or donkey wandering off, be sure to return it.If you see the donkey of someone who hates you fallen down under its load, do not leave it there; be sure you help them with it." Exodus 23:4-5
"Do not hate your brother in your heart." Leviticus 19:17
"Do not gloat when your enemy falls; when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice" Proverbs 24:17
"If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; if he is thirsty, give him water to drink." Proverbs 25:21
I believe that Jesus taught original ideas, but they were almost entirely with regards to himself, that he was the Messiah, the Son of God, and God himself, etc. With regards to the Law, he really didn't teach anything new, but you really have had to study the Law to know this, and most Christians are not interested in studying the Law. He was of a school of Phariseeical thought after Rabbi Hillel (which was at odds with the School of Shammai, which ruled the Sanhedron during his day--obviously why you see them arguing so much).True. The old testament is filled with new testament concepts, i.e. do the right thing, even if it isn't proscribed by the Law. Act out of conscience, not just obedience.
The issue is that God Himself says the Old Covenant is inferior. It is so inferior that with the New Covenant the Old Covenant would pass away. So, I'm not sure if one does just not want to believe God but believe what they want to believe.I just think God should get the credit for getting it right the first time around. I mean think about it. Why do Christians get the idea that the Law teaches mistakes? The Law is GOD'S teachings. Would God teach lies? Honestly, think about it. If the Law is wrong headed, what does that say about the God who gave it?
The New Covenant builds on the Old. It doesn't contradict it.
That is NOT the same thing as saying that the New Covenant contradicts the Old Covenant.The issue is that God Himself says the Old Covenant is inferior.
The differences is the Covenants and what God is and was trying to accomplish during the time periods.That is NOT the same thing as saying that the New Covenant contradicts the Old Covenant.
To say there is a contradiction is to say the Old contains lies, and to say it contains lies is to say that God is a liar.