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2. Chick Tracts only sow falsehoods about other faiths, trying to tear them down with lies. They are horrible.

I've heard this a lot, but no one offers examples of what they lie about. Is it just other faiths? Or are there other lies? This is said so often that I'm starting to wonder what the examples are that they are so wrong about.
 
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I've heard this a lot, but no one offers examples of what they lie about. Is it just other faiths? Or are there other lies? This is said so often that I'm starting to wonder what the examples are that they are so wrong about.


Here's a fun one:
https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0046/0046_01.asp

They even made this one into a movie. No, it's not a parody so please don't all roll your eyes at the same time or the planet will fall out of orbit and careen into the sun.

 
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I've heard this a lot, but no one offers examples of what they lie about. Is it just other faiths? Or are there other lies? This is said so often that I'm starting to wonder what the examples are that they are so wrong about.

I will demonstrate using an example of one about my faith (link: https://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/0061/0061_01.asp).

The basic plot in the cartoon starts off with good-girl Christian who wants to go be a nurse in Africa. Her aunt (who is meeting with Mormon missionaries) vehemently opposes this idea and says "you'll be sorry!". Note: none of this has anything to do with LDS beliefs. It is simply setting up straw man characters: the niece being the Christ-like knowing Christian, and the aunt being a small minded foolish lady. These stereotypes are continued throughout the entire track.

Another stereotype soon introduced is the "sneaky" Mormon missionaries, whom are hiding the "truth" from the foolish aunt. The "wise Christian niece" continually barrages the "sneaky" missionaries with all these "evil dark secrets" that they were "hiding" from the aunt. The missionaries are portrayed as being caught-red-handed trying to lie. The niece is a savior and the grateful aunt changes her small minded ways. She tells her niece "I'm saved! Thank God you came when you did!"

Okay: so I'm touched on the needless stereotypes, and general smearing this tract has employed. How about actual theology? Well, there is not a single "fact" it tells about Mormon beliefs that is not twisted with spin: the "wise" niece doesn't have a single fact straight.

But what about the "Christian" beliefs it talks about? Well you'll have to skip the 38 pages of smear before it even talks about them. The message (pages 39-43) actually has nothing to do with LDS beliefs are all but instead sells the pray-and-once-saved-always-saved idea. It literally has a prayer than you can simply recite and instantly be saved!
 
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I've heard this a lot, but no one offers examples of what they lie about. Is it just other faiths? Or are there other lies? This is said so often that I'm starting to wonder what the examples are that they are so wrong about.
Whenever Y'SHUA exposed the lies and errors of the scribes and pharisees, they got mad and sought to silence HIM (THE MESSIAH SAVIOR KING GOD) .

Likewise anytime a cult or even a small error in any group is exposed, let alone large errors like YHWH brought to LIGHT thru Martin Luther,
the same happens TODAY.
It has always been this way with society.
 
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I've heard this a lot, but no one offers examples of what they lie about. Is it just other faiths? Or are there other lies? This is said so often that I'm starting to wonder what the examples are that they are so wrong about.

I offered an example earlier in this thread.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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I offered an example earlier in this thread.

-CryptoLutheran

Yes, you gave some great examples, but I was not asking for more examples as proof. I was curious what else people have run into. But my wording was wrong as it made it sound like I've heard no examples.
 
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Yes, you gave some great examples, but I was not asking for more examples as proof. I was curious what else people have run into. But my wording was wrong as it made it sound like I've heard no examples.

I don't have any photocopies or anything but many of mine are upbeat; "God loves you" etc.

I have received more than one about being an evil Atheist and how Obama is working with Oprah and the devil to ruin America, though.
 
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I don't have any photocopies or anything but many of mine are upbeat; "God loves you" etc.

I have received more than one about being an evil Atheist and how Obama is working with Oprah and the devil to ruin America, though.

Because the devil can't do it by himself?
 
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Because the devil can't do it by himself?

Not being a native born American Citizen the Devil , so it is not that he can't it is that he is too lazy to do it himself!

And don't come back with the wider meaning of devil, that makes no difference.

<De POEing disclaimer, this is parody and by explicitly saying so I avoid the POE!>
 
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I've heard this a lot, but no one offers examples of what they lie about. Is it just other faiths? Or are there other lies? This is said so often that I'm starting to wonder what the examples are that they are so wrong about.

Well you can go to their site and see for yourself.

http://www.chick.com/

Now if you actively want to try to excuse their tracts you could claim that many of them are possible. But it seems to me they depict what happens in their tracts as inevitable or at typical.

They typically portray an other faith as knowing the Chick version of reality is right and deliberately being the workers of Satan. And if they show any others as deceived they still show those more in the know in those other faiths as being intentional deceivers.

BTW the home page has the 'top 10' tracts and paths to everything.
 
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I heard about his passing. I wonder if this is what he is experiencing in the afterlife?

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I heard about his passing. I wonder if this is what he is experiencing in the afterlife?

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As something of an act of catharsis I wrote a short story (religious fanfiction?) a number of years ago where Jack Chick passed on and had his own "this was your life!" moment. Chick faces all the ugliness he had done and caused, and how he had misused Christ to preach a religion of hate, and was even deeply offended when he sees that there are all sorts of people in heaven that he didn't think should be there. In the end, after seeing everything for what it was, God's mercy finally penetrates and Chick is able to enter Paradise and enjoy the grace and joy of heaven.

As I said, it was an act of catharsis; it was early on in my exodus from Evangelicalism and Fundamentalism, and I wrote it for myself because I had been familiar with a number of his tracts earlier in my life and my teen years, and was exposed to more of them as a young adult. I wrote it as a kind of personal expression of faith and hope--to contrast the God I believe in and the God Chick espouses; the God I believe in embraces Chick because He is kind, loving, forgiving, and gracious and reveals Himself to be this through Christ--and I want to believe in that kind of God. Chick's version of heaven is where only the right kinds of people get to go, an exclusive club for the very special; I want to believe that heaven is the result of a merciful God inviting and welcoming the rejects of the world to come and share life with Him, even as we see Christ dining and sharing life with tax collectors, prostitutes, lepers, and sinners.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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As something of an act of catharsis I wrote a short story (religious fanfiction?) a number of years ago where Jack Chick passed on and had his own "this was your life!" moment. Chick faces all the ugliness he had done and caused, and how he had misused Christ to preach a religion of hate, and was even deeply offended when he sees that there are all sorts of people in heaven that he didn't think should be there. In the end, after seeing everything for what it was, God's mercy finally penetrates and Chick is able to enter Paradise and enjoy the grace and joy of heaven.

As I said, it was an act of catharsis; it was early on in my exodus from Evangelicalism and Fundamentalism, and I wrote it for myself because I had been familiar with a number of his tracts earlier in my life and my teen years, and was exposed to more of them as a young adult. I wrote it as a kind of personal expression of faith and hope--to contrast the God I believe in and the God Chick espouses; the God I believe in embraces Chick because He is kind, loving, forgiving, and gracious and reveals Himself to be this through Christ--and I want to believe in that kind of God. Chick's version of heaven is where only the right kinds of people get to go, an exclusive club for the very special; I want to believe that heaven is the result of a merciful God inviting and welcoming the rejects of the world to come and share life with Him, even as we see Christ dining and sharing life with tax collectors, prostitutes, lepers, and sinners.

-CryptoLutheran

You are kinder than I. I'd expect a story ending with 'Depart from me, I never knew you.' Followed by a Simpsonesque trap door opening and a long decent.
 
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People should meet Jesus in us. There is famous quote credited to lots of people:"Preach the gospel at every opportunity. If necessary, use words". Tract people think the words come first.

Chick is offensive. I'm glad I haven't seen any in years.

People tell me that God uses tracts. God uses Satan too.
I'm the local Ignostic of the bunch.
Even I've seen chick tracts about. I wonder what with your first remarks there, how do you think you appear in using words to demonstrate your living the good news in this thread to people like me?




No need to blow a fuse.
Calm down.





It's being reported that Jack Chick has died on October 23rd. Here's an interesting article complete with a picture of Chick. This came to me through a friend who is gay, that's why the homophobic subject.
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The page there has a 404 error. You might want to delete that link because you're linking to a gay website and that's not allowed here.
 
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I'm the local Ignostic of the bunch.
Even I've seen chick tracts about. I wonder what with your first remarks there, how do you think you appear in using words to demonstrate your living the good news in this thread to people like me?




Calm down.





The page there has a 404 error. You might want to delete that link because you're linking to a gay website and that's not allowed here.

What is ignostic?
 
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