Is this a sign of black priviledge?

Aldebaran · Oct 14, 2016

It seems that there are indications of a Black Privilege in our society when black people are allowed to say things that are inflammatory, but are dismissed as only trying to "get a conversation going". If a white person were to say the same thing, it is considered inflammatory or derogatory or even meant to be provocative.

When the black community feels they are "excluded" in some way, then it becomes known very quickly. But if the black community wants to say that lives matter, but only mention that black ones matter, it's seen as ok. If a white person counters with a slogan that is all-inclusive, we see this: https://pjmedia.com/video/guy-brings-all-lives-matter-sign-into-black-neighborhood-gets-beaten-up/

So that's too provocative? If that's the case, then why is it ok for a black person to be provocative by outright calling white people racist? http://host.madison.com/ct/news/loc...cle_008f6162-8c92-11e6-9c6a-476284be4f62.html

I wonder why the university doesn't force this guy to turn his shirt inside out like someone simply wearing a shirt that asserts a constitutional right: http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/05/13/family-sues-after-student-arrested-wearing-nra-t-shirt-school

It seems that wearing a shirt calling an entire group of people "racist" based on nothing more than their skin color is considered to be "getting a conversation" while at the same time, it's inflammatory to wear a shirt that celebrates a freedom all Americans enjoy. So is holding a sign that simply states that ALL lives matter.

Perhaps blacks enjoy priviledges in this country that people of other skin colors do not?

iluvatar5150 · Oct 14, 2016

Aldebaran said:
It seems that there are indications of a Black Privilege in our society when black people are allowed to say things that are inflammatory, but are dismissed as only trying to "get a conversation going". If a white person were to say the same thing, it is considered inflammatory or derogatory or even meant to be provocative.

When the black community feels they are "excluded" in some way, then it becomes known very quickly. But if the black community wants to say that lives matter, but only mention that black ones matter, it's seen as ok. If a white person counters with a slogan that is all-inclusive, we see this: https://pjmedia.com/video/guy-brings-all-lives-matter-sign-into-black-neighborhood-gets-beaten-up/

So that's too provocative? If that's the case, then why is it ok for a black person to be provocative by outright calling white people racist? http://host.madison.com/ct/news/loc...cle_008f6162-8c92-11e6-9c6a-476284be4f62.html

I wonder why the university doesn't force this guy to turn his shirt inside out like someone simply wearing a shirt that asserts a constitutional right: http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/05/13/family-sues-after-student-arrested-wearing-nra-t-shirt-school

It seems that wearing a shirt calling an entire group of people "racist" based on nothing more than their skin color is considered to be "getting a conversation" while at the same time, it's inflammatory to wear a shirt that celebrates a freedom all Americans enjoy. So is holding a sign that simply states that ALL lives matter.

Perhaps blacks enjoy priviledges in this country that people of other skin colors do not?

No, it isn't. But, for the sake of argument, let's say that it is.

Want to trade your white privilege for their black privilege? You'd get to shout whatever racially-charged thing you want and, in return, get targeted by police, discriminated against in employment and education, and more likely to be the victim of generational poverty foisted on 5+ generations preceding you.

How's that sound?

Cimorene · Oct 14, 2016

Why do people think privilege is spelled with a d?

rambot · Oct 14, 2016

iluvatar5150 said:
No, it isn't. But, for the sake of argument, let's say that it is.

Want to trade your white privilege for their black privilege? You'd get to shout whatever racially-charged thing you want and, in return, get targeted by police, discriminated against in employment and education, and more likely to be the victim of generational poverty foisted on 5+ generations preceding you.

How's that sound?

I'm curious to here the answer actually.

VanillaSunflowers · Oct 14, 2016

The whole white privilege sloganizing is racist itself. Don't fight racist fire with racist fire by coining a slogan, black privilege.

That gives black racists credit for giving birth to a counter movement .

Aldebaran · Oct 14, 2016

iluvatar5150 said:
No, it isn't. But, for the sake of argument, let's say that it is.

Want to trade your white privilege for their black privilege? You'd get to shout whatever racially-charged thing you want and, in return, get targeted by police, discriminated against in employment and education, and more likely to be the victim of generational poverty foisted on 5+ generations preceding you.

How's that sound?

If you click the link of the person making and selling hoodies on a university campus, and then getting a favorable story written about him by the media, is being educated at a university (maybe they're the ones teaching this stuff), it doesn't seem that he's being "targeted" by anyone as you have asserted.

Aldebaran · Oct 14, 2016

VanillaSunflowers said:
The whole white privilege sloganizing is racist itself. Don't fight racist fire with racist fire by coining a slogan, black privilege.

That gives black racists credit for giving birth to a counter movement .

Or it exposes the fact that they have what they claim they don't.

VanillaSunflowers · Oct 14, 2016

Aldebaran said:
Or it exposes the fact that they have what they claim they don't.

The whole idea of privilege is false.

Blacks don't have a special privilege to get away with anything anyone else can't get away with. It's just perceived as such by some because when we insult our own community it's a pass. Not a pejorative.

We can use the "N" word, for instance.
I can call someone the N word using a vowel at the end of the word instead of the former "r" consonant. And that's suppose to be a term of endearment. "My nigg."
It's ridiculous but it's used.
However, everyone in our community knows that using the "r" at the end of that word is always an insult. And R types are aplenty in our community. They're the gang banging thug type that keep us in our homes and behind bars. Because we're afraid of gang warfare gunfire sending a stray bullet into our person if we're outside.

Then if that murderous trash happens to get arrested and sent to the prison they deserve, it's called racial profiling. And I say , if they're caught, because the "don't snitch" policy in victim communities often lets that criminal type get away with it.
And the policy is promoted and enforced through violence by the same thug element that benefits from not getting caught.

Or they're the type that see us pull up with a big screen TV after we got our taxes back. And they break in and take it and then shoot the homeowner, one of us, who happened to wake up during the burglary.

That happened to a coworkers cousin a few years back.

No, there's no special privilege based on skin color. If there were the privileged, wouldn't be in the same predicament as the non-privileged.

It's a false outrage designed to stoke racists outrage in defense of or offense by the term itself.

Church2u2 · Oct 14, 2016

Hi.I think if one race was silent about racism then things would be worse.Speaking out sheds light on it. Almost the whole world is aware of the racism that's happened in America through the media.I say don't be afraid to speak out.Let the world know.Then maybe something can be done about it.And I'm not just talking about white on black racism because blacks have been racist towards whites since slavery.You know because their ancestors were basically kidnapped from their country to have the wonderful,self esteem building experience of being someone else's slave."Jenny Mae you get out thar and empty Big Missy Sarah's slop jar or I'll tan yore hide blacker'n it already is gal!"
JennyMae :"Yassuh Massa!"

Church2u2 · Oct 14, 2016

And in case you're wondering I consider myself of the African-American persuasion. I've got black family on both sides.

Aldebaran · Oct 14, 2016

VanillaSunflowers said:
The whole idea of privilege is false.

Blacks don't have a special privilege to get away with anything anyone else can't get away with. It's just perceived as such by some because when we insult our own community it's a pass. Not a pejorative.

We can use the "N" word, for instance.
I can call someone the N word using a vowel at the end of the word instead of the former "r" consonant. And that's suppose to be a term of endearment. "My nigg."
It's ridiculous but it's used.

I've never heard of any one of the "N" words being acceptable by a white person to use. On TV, the word is either referred to as the "N word" or it's bleeped out. If a white person uses it in public, then it's called hate speech. If it's used during a crime, the crime becomes a "hate crime". If a black person says it, no problem.

VanillaSunflowers said:
However, everyone in our community knows that using the "r" at the end of that word is always an insult. And R types are aplenty in our community. They're the gang banging thug type that keep us in our homes and behind bars. Because we're afraid of gang warfare gunfire sending a stray bullet into our person if we're outside.

Or they're the type that see us pull up with a big screen TV after we got our taxes back. And they break in and take it and then shoot the homeowner, one of us, who happened to wake up during the burglary.

That happened to a coworkers cousin a few years back.

I think you might get some negative feedback for saying that. But it's true nonetheless.

Aldebaran · Oct 14, 2016

Church2u2 said:
Hi.I think if one race was silent about racism then things would be worse.Speaking out sheds light on it. Almost the whole world is aware of the racism that's happened in America through the media.I say don't be afraid to speak out.Let the world know.Then maybe something can be done about it.And I'm not just talking about white on black racism because blacks have been racist towards whites since slavery.You know because their ancestors were basically kidnapped from their country to have the wonderful,self esteem building experience of being someone else's slave."Jenny Mae you get out thar and empty Big Missy Sarah's slop jar or I'll tan yore hide blacker'n it already is gal!"
JennyMae :"Yassuh Massa!"

The difference here is that slavery doesn't exist anymore and none of the kids in college, such as the one I posted the link about, was even alive during the time of slavery and has never experienced it.

VanillaSunflowers · Oct 14, 2016

Aldebaran said:
I've never heard of any one of the "N" words being acceptable by a white person to use. On TV, the word is either referred to as the "N word" or it's bleeped out. If a white person uses it in public, then it's called hate speech. If it's used during a crime, the crime becomes a "hate crime". If a black person says it, no problem.

I think you might get some negative feedback for saying that. But it's true nonetheless.

Being I'm black and Lakota.

SummerMadness · Oct 14, 2016

Yep, it's all about slavery. Just ignore Jim Crow and the racial discrimination that is still statistically demonstrable, there is no racism in America. :tutu:

Aldebaran · Oct 14, 2016

SummerMadness said:
Yep, it's all about slavery. Just ignore Jim Crow and the racial discrimination that is still statistically demonstrable, there is no racism in America.

Jim Crow laws ended 51 years ago, just FYI.

SummerMadness · Oct 14, 2016

Aldebaran said:
Jim Crow laws ended 51 years ago, just FYI.

Exactly, and after it was ended, there were no effects of the of that discrimination. Likewise, we need to ignore current discrimination that is borne out in the data repeatedly from housing, to education, to criminal justice, to policing, to employment... Just ignore all of that and you'll see that blacks are clearly the most privileged members of American society. They are so privileged I would switch places with any black person in a heartbeat.

Aldebaran · Oct 14, 2016

SummerMadness said:
Exactly, and after it was ended, there were no effects of the of that discrimination. Likewise, we need to ignore current discrimination that is borne out in the data repeatedly from housing, to education, to criminal justice, to policing, to employment... Just ignore all of that and you'll see that blacks are clearly the most privileged members of American society. They are so privileged I would switch places with any black person in a heartbeat.

If you say so.

SummerMadness · Oct 14, 2016

Aldebaran said:
If you say so.

Is this more of that because you haven't read something or seen the statistics, it doesn't exist argument.

Here's a question, what is the evidence that racial discrimination does not exist anymore? Do you have data to backup such claims? Do you have evidence that blacks are overly privileged in American society?

Aldebaran · Oct 14, 2016

SummerMadness said:
Is this more of that because you haven't read something or seen the statistics, it doesn't exist argument.

Here's a question, what is the evidence that racial discrimination does not exist anymore? Do you have data to backup such claims? Do you have evidence that blacks are overly privileged in American society?

Hard to prove a negative.
But for starters, the president of the country happens to be black. He was actually voted into office, twice, by evil and racist white people. Rather ironic, isn't it?

Church2u2 · Oct 14, 2016

Aldebaran said:
The difference here is that slavery doesn't exist anymore and none of the kids in college, such as the one I posted the link about, was even alive during the time of slavery and has never experienced it.

Yes.That is exactly right. But we know or should know about it through history. Another thing is that most black people have taught their children about slavery and some of the things that had been done to their older generation many hundreds of years after slavery have been passed down to this present generation. Trust me. My great-grandfather was Irish but my great-grandmother was mulatto. Their children some of them were light enough to pass for white and they did.But my grandfather married the blackest woman he could find because he was not ashamed of his African roots. But I digress. The thread isn't about me.Sorry.

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