Teach me about the trinity

ewq1938 said:

I disagree. Your explanations don't offer any translation which would suggest something other wise. Matthew Henry says a lot on this. One statement being, "Her pregnancy of the promised seed; before they came together, she was found with child, which really was of the Holy Ghost."

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And do you find Matthew Henry saying that the Holy Spirit is Jesus' father, or that the Holy Spirit had sex with Mary? Or do you just see commenters, like Matthew Henry, saying that the conception of Jesus in Mary's womb was of the Holy Spirit?

-CryptoLutheran

KawaiiChristianGal said:

I don't understand the Godhead there I said ITTTTT!

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Just be you.

Robban said:

Just be you.

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Thank you I feel pressured to understand this but the Bible does say it's a mystery so I will just believe in Christ and not sweat the small stuff...

gracethroughfaith said:

This is how I view the trinity

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I just go to Time1. That's where Christ looked towards in His prayers.

ewq1938 said:

Mat_1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

Mat_1:20 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou son of David, fear not to take unto thee Mary thy wife: for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost.

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The act of divine conception was from, through and made possible by the Holy Spirit. That does not mean that the Holy Spirit is Jesus' Father.

Jesus said:
"And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever—17 the Spirit of truth." John 14:16-17
26 But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. John 14:26
“When the Advocate comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father—he will testify about me.. John 15:26
He told his disciples to baptise in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, Matthew 28:19, and always referred to the Spirit being sent by, or coming from, the Father. Nowhere does he say, "my Father, who IS the Holy Spirit ......."
Paul blessed the Corinthians in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, 2 Corinthians 13:14. It is through the Spirit that we can call God Father, Romans 8:15

KawaiiChristianGal said:

To me Jesus is God in the flesh. The fullness of that Godhead is in Him.

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John 14, Jesus says the father is greater than he is

W2L said:

John 14, Jesus says the father is greater than he is

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I don't deny the Father but the scripture still says the fullness of the Godhead is in Jesus.

KawaiiChristianGal said:

I don't deny the Father but the scripture still says the fullness of the Godhead is in Jesus.

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Yes, maybe because no one can come to the father without going through the son.

gracethroughfaith said:

This is how I view the trinity

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Whatever 'Time 1' is it is incorrect.

The Word is the Son of God, just like in 'Time 2' and 'Time 3'.

This is flawed from the start

ewq1938 said:

I disagree. Your explanations don't offer any translation which would suggest something other wise. Matthew Henry says a lot on this. One statement being, "Her pregnancy of the promised seed; before they came together, she was found with child, which really was of the Holy Ghost."

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Your misreading it.

'Before they came together' is Mary and Joseph. It is to show that Mary was a virgin.

Also, what is the Bible version you are quoting from?

ToBeLoved said:

Also, what is the Bible version you are quoting from?

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I suspect it's the KJV. The use of "Holy Ghost" rather than "Holy Spirit" is usually a good sign of a fairly archaic translation, and in the case of Scripture the most commonly used archaic translation today would be the 1769 revision of the King James Version.

-CryptoLutheran

ImAllLikeOkWaitWhat said:

What does it mean to be God

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when you are able bro, God (there are 4 lines in my post-two are in bold font, another in grey and blue font and another in grey font...the blue word is a link to my blog, where by the rules of this forum, i place prophetic words)

W2L said:

John 14, Jesus says the father is greater than he is

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And in John 10:30, Jesus claims that "I and the Father are one."

HitchSlap said:

And in John 10:30, Jesus claims that "I and the Father are one."

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I believe Jesus is part of God, but not the father himself. God chooses to show part of Himself, but not all.

W2L said:

I believe Jesus is part of God, but not the father himself. God chooses to show part of Himself, but not all.

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Jesus did not claim to be part of the father, but one with the father. The Jews knew exactly what he was implying, essentially blasphemy.

HitchSlap said:

Jesus did not claim to be part of the father, but one with the father. The Jews knew exactly what he was implying, essentially blasphemy.

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He was one with his father, but not the father. In the beginning God said let "us" make man in "our" image.

W2L said:

He was one with his father, but not the father. In the beginning God said let "us" make man in "our" image.

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How are you one with something, but not that something?

HitchSlap said:

How are you one with something, but not that something?

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The bible teaches that we are one with Christ, yet we are individuals as well.1 Corinthians 6:17 I don't claim to understand it, just like myself, God is mysterious. We are as well.