How do pro-abortion Christians reconcile their views with pro-life scripture?

They don't. The God of the Bible is pro life. It's a plain to see all throughout scripture, all it takes isn't someone willing to read scripture to see.

KawaiiChristianGal said:

They don't. The God of the Bible is pro life.

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Prove it?

OneChristianLight said:

Luke 1:41-44, for example: "When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the baby leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit . . . . As soon as the sound of your greeting reached my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy."

The quoted Bible verse describes fetuses in the womb as babies, or in other words living humans.

There are some liberal Christians out there who believe that a woman has the right to choose an abortion if her pregnancy is inconvenient, not realizing that everyone deserves a chance at life. How do these left-wing Christians reconcile their pro-abortion views with Bible scripture that teaches life begins at conception?

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I'll take wisdom text priority for 1000 Alec.

But better than both is the one who has never been born, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun. (Ecclesiastes 4:3)

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"Sing, barren woman, you who never bore a child; burst into song, shout for joy, you who were never in labor; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband," says the LORD. (Isaiah 54:1, Galatians 4:27)

Abortion as an occurrance is a judgment from God because a people are being rebellious, see below provided verses.

"Why is my lord weeping?" asked Hazael. "Because I know the harm you will do to the Israelites," he answered. "You will set fire to their fortified places, kill their young men with the sword, dash their little children to the ground, and rip open their pregnant women." (2 Kings 8:12)

The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open." (Hosea 13:6)

So the responsibility falls on the church for pushing society to this place. If they wish to be angry, be angry at themselves.

The same way people reconcile their views on being pro-death penalty and scriptures. Justification through proof-texting.

The thing is, Jesus prooftexted, so it's not a sound argument.

Armoured said:

Murder is defined by intent and status of the victim as a "person". Abortion fails on both counts.

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Constantine the Sinner said:

Even to this day, in many states, if a man kills a fetus through injury of a woman, he can be charged with murder.

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Armoured said:

If, and this is the important part, IT OCCURS WITHOUT CONSENT.

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Armoured, you're contradicting yourself. You said murder is defined by intent and status as a person. You acknowledged that a man killing a fetus through injury of a woman can be charged with murder if it occurs without consent. That means the fetus would have to be considered a person. It also means abortion is murder if it occurs without consent. You already acknowledged that abortion isn't unintentional. Therefore, abortion is murder based on your own reasoning.

samir said:

Armoured, you're contradicting yourself. You said murder is defined by intent and status as a person. You acknowledged that a man killing a fetus through injury of a woman can be charged with murder if it occurs without consent. That means the fetus would have to be considered a person. It also means abortion is murder if it occurs without consent. You already acknowledged that abortion isn't unintentional. Therefore, abortion is murder based on your own reasoning.

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No, it's not. But nice attempt.

Oh, and it's not "my" reasoning, it's basic word definition.

Armoured said:

No, it's not. But nice attempt.

Oh, and it's not "my" reasoning, it's basic word definition.

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If a fetus is not a person, then killing one cannot be murder, regardless of the consent of the "owner". If I poison my neighbor's dog without his consent, that's a chargeable offense, but not murder.

Armoured said:

Prove it?

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You are here and alive aren't you. If it were not so, then you would have become one of the growing statistics.

There is appearing growing hypocrasy and selfishness unparraleled to previous generations. The attitude of I am alive and who cares for statistics is what some are advocating when they support abortion. Most abortions are done on healthy fetus that could have been YOU, your father, your mother, your brother or your sister. Now I am not taking to you in particular, but to you who will live tomorrow because your father and mother were lucky to have escaped of being one of a growing statics in abortion rates.

This is the proof your looking at. If it isn't proof for you, then you are not being honest with yourself.

Berean777 said:

You are here and alive aren't you. If it were not so, then you would have become one of the growing statistics.

There is appearing growing hypocrasy and selfishness unparraleled to previous generations. The attitude of I am alive and who cares for statistics is what some are advocating when they support abortion. Most abortions are done on healthy embryos that could have been YOU, your father, your mother, your brother or your sister. Now I am not taking to you in particular, but to you who will live tomorrow because your father and mother were lucky to had escaped of being one of a growing statics in abortion rates.

This is the proof your looking at. If it isn't proof for you, then you are not being honest with yourself.

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If my mother had aborted me, would I even know it? Nope. That's not an intelligent argument.

RedPonyDriver said:

If my mother had aborted me, would I even know it? Nope. That's not an intelligent argument.

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If you were killed in your sleep, would you even know it?

Constantine the Sinner said:

If you were killed in your sleep, would you even know it?

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You cannot compare a sleeping adult to a zygote w/o a fully functioning nervous system.

Remember...I used to be a pretty rabid pro-lifer. I know the arguments. They don't work.

RedPonyDriver said:

You cannot compare a sleeping adult to a zygote w/o a fully functioning nervous system.

Remember...I used to be a pretty rabid pro-lifer. I know the arguments. They don't work.

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I notice you didn't answer my question.

RedPonyDriver said:

If my mother had aborted me, would I even know it? Nope. That's not an intelligent argument.

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You would be right from a weak human argument, but God never forgets and he owns life, so the minute you step off this worldly realm and into his judgment domain, you have a lot of explaining to do. I doubt that your plea bargain will be heard, for God will respond, what plea did that child have before it had awareness to make a decision in life. God calls into being things that have not yet been, as if they are and if the child had been named by God and you decided for that child's fate, then God sees only red, MURDER! GUILTY AS CHARGED.

Berean777 said:

You would be right from a weak human argument, but God never forgets and he owns life, so the minute you step off this worldly realm and into his judgment domain, you have a lot of explaining to do. I doubt that your plea bargain will be heard, for God will respond, what plea did that child have before it had awareness to make a decision in life. God calls into being things that have not yet been, as if they are and if the child had been named by God and you decided for that child's fate, then God sees only red, MURDER! GUILTY AS CHARGED.

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I find it quite interesting that humans attempt to speak for God. I also notice it's only one certain faction of Christians that attempt to speak for God...and well, so often they are so wrong on other things, I don't take their pronouncements seriously at all.

What test should be administered to a human being to determine whether or not he is a person?

How can a mother who does not even own her own life, make decision on another person's life, to whom God deems a person unless the natural progression of life and death occurs, without man impeding life by bringing death.

If man brings death on God's creation and God seems to be left out of the loop and the authorities too, get in on the action and make legislation to legalise these practices. Soon and I mean soon, God will hit the erase button, that is he will execute the directive Extinction Protocol.

May be it is high time, those who are alive and who have no care for what the living fetus can be, that is a living person in the future, should be considered for aborting in the near future by an Extinction Level Event. God might just well let this generation have what is coming for it. Since death is not a big concern for them, then maybe God will plan their own deaths in the not to distant future.

I think it is a strong case for God to charge those who peddle in death, that includes those who advocate and support abortion who are doing just that, that includes, people in general, legislators, authority whether religious or not.

If we consider this question why should that fetus to become a person die and you still remain alive, why?

Constantine the Sinner said:

What test should be administered to a human being to determine whether or not he is a person?

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Person or alive?