Mark of the Beast, the matrix, and your job!

Hi all. Here's another video produced by some friends of mine. It's 6 minutes, so not too long. There is a rather intimate link between prophecy and the teachings of Jesus. After all, the angel from Revelation 10 tells us that the spirit of prophecy is the testimony of Jesus. The video examines the relationship between Jesus' comments, in particular, about serving two masters and the Mark of the Beast, both of which heavily revolve around our relationship to money.

I look forward to hearing what others think. Lets get some good discussion going about the Mark of the Beast and personal motivations!

Hazrus said:

... so how is the Mark of the Beast not in existence today then? What about the Mark of God?

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Hi Hazrus. Thanks for your response, but I don't quite understand what you mean. Would you mind clarifying or rephrasing the question? Thanks.

LastSeven said:

Cool video, but it seems to be kind of beating around the bush. Is the video saying that the system is the mark?

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No, but it is suggesting that the system is what will legitimize acceptance of the Mark. The purpose of the Mark will be to control buying and selling. The system revolves around monetary gain/exchange. People will end up accepting the Mark because it will have the appearance of being just another way to buy/sell, and, as I suggested in the "Days of Noah and Lot" thread, buying and selling is one of those mundane, ordinary, everyday activities Jesus cited as at least part of the reason for why those people were destroyed.

The system has been set-up so that most of us honestly believe we cannot survive without buying/selling so, of course, what better way to control then world and turn people away from God than to exploit their fear and greed?

The system is what convinces us that our chasing after money is respectable, normal, and above question. In order to see the problem, we must be willing to step outside of the system, just like Neo had to be unplugged before he could truly appreciate the gravity of what the others were trying to tell him.

This is why Jesus said we must be "born again". He said we won't even be able to see the kingdom of God unless we become like little children, learning the values of a new system which he called "The Kingdom of Heaven". In this system we don't force people to pay us for our love. Rather, we help one another just because we want to. It's alien and completely contrary to the worldly system in which most of us live.

And, it is our loyalty to the worldly system vs God's system which is where the Mark's "worship" aspect comes into play. Praise songs are the most common method for expressing worship these days, but worship is also expressed through who we serve, how we live from day to day, and who/what we trust. The reason why so many people will take the Mark is because they are expecting some overtly religious symbol of loyalty. The Mark does not need to be religious in nature. It only needs to keep people turned away from God. So, most people in the world will end up taking the Mark because they see nothing wrong with giving their time, their service, their loyalty, and their trust to the monetary system, just as we've been doing for thousands of Years.

The trust and compliance they give to the system of this world to feed and clothe them is how they show their worship for the system. They may not see it as worship, but what really matters is how God views the issue. If we choose the systems of the world over his kingdom of love, then what does that communicate to him?

Hazrus said:

Hi ES,

Sorry if it seemed an obscure reply. I suppose the video is a moot point if you believe that the Mark is not literal (just like the "other Mark"). Regardless, it is still a great idea to ensure we are only serving the one master. For that,I say well done.

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The video suggests that the Mark will physically manifest as microchip implants in the hand, which will be used to regulate buying/selling. It suggests that the economic system is what will legitimize this action in the minds of most people.

Psalm3704 said:

EtS, I think it's good you're telling people to serve God

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Thanks for the encouragement.

Psalm3704 said:

but you're not suppose to quit your job

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Depends on what the job is and, most importantly, why we're doing it.

Psalm3704 said:

God actually wants us to do some type of work in order to make the world a better place.

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The video suggests that people should work for love, rather than allowing the systems of this world (i.e. money and the things money can buy) become the motivation for why we work. Do good, yes. Do it only because someone pays you to do it? No.

Psalm3704 said:

If we have no money, how can we help others?

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It sounds suspiciously like you're saying we can't show love for one another without money...

Psalm3704 said:

Case and point in the parable of the good samaritan

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The lesson of the parable is to be practical in our love and care for others, not to get out there and work for money on the understanding that someday we may feel like using a portion of it to help someone.

Psalm3704 said:

We honor God by the work we do

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Part of what the video aims to achieve is to get the individual to question their own, personal motivations. When you say, "we", (speaking for humanity in general, I suppose?) you overlook that very important lesson. It's quite possible that one person could be working for love, while another person in that same line of work is only there to get paid. The only difference is motivation, which can never be judged on a collective. That's why it is common in Christianity to refer to our relationship with Jesus as a "personal" relationship.

Psalm3704 said:

The bible teaches us not to use people to earn money

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This is what the entire monetary system is based on. If you don't pay me, I won't help you.

Psalm3704 said:

Believe it or not, you actually dishonor God when not working.

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This goes back to motivation. Work for love, not some other motivation like material gain.

Psalm3704 said:

Many time God appoints people to certain jobs to serve His plan and accomplish His goal, even in churches.

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Yeah I've heard this a lot, but the bottom line, upon closer examination, always comes down to, "but I need to pay the bills".

Inkfingers said:

More likely the mark in the hand or forehead is symbolic of beliefs and actions (as is used elsewhere,, such as Deuteronomy 6:8 Deuteronomy 11:18 and Exodus 13:9) rather than literal. Meaning that you only get to buy or sell if you follow the restrictions and requirements of the Beast society's rules.

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I also believe the Mark will have symbolic meaning, while also being expressed through literal behavior. You suggest that one will only get to buy/sell by following the restrictions and requirements of the Beast society's rules, but it seems as though you've left out rules about buying/selling. I can't take a gold coin into the grocery store to pay for my food because the infrastructure isn't set up for that kind of transaction, even though the gold coin still has value.

I can't even use money from fifty years ago because of security regulations and design enhancements. These are restrictions and requirements, right now, that I must follow if I want to buy/sell. A time is coming when money will, once again, change its shape, and there is little doubt that the direction it's headed in is implantable microchips, currently spear-headed by tap-and-pay technology. Eventually, the use of buying and selling will be restricted to implantable chips.

I suspect what you mean by "Beast society's rules", though, is probably something more religious in nature, right? But that is the diabolical sneakiness of the system; it will make the Mark appear as though it's not really the Mark. It will be just another iteration in the long history of the evolution of money and as so many Christians today will fervently point out, there's nothing wrong with working for money even if it requires a microchip in the hand to continue doing so.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Pretty good video - I was able to watch it all being only six minutes - there's another video 3 hours 5 minutes long from the Doctors in INdia on how all across INdia they are curing type I and type II diabetes (easily and clearly), but it is difficult watching 3 hours 5 minutes at one sitting even though it is right and very good too.
Both videos - the 6 minute one here, and the 3 hours 5 minutes one elsewhere,
are exposing the "SYSTEM of the BEAST" that we all live "in".
It is the same "SYSTEM" Y'SHUA was living in when HE walked on earth.

HE remained free of the "SYSTEM" - while letting it kill HIM. HE suffered under it, beatings, humiliations, rejection by HIS OWN people, even HIS home town.

The same "SYSTEM" we live in TODAY. We are surrounded by it, grew up into it, taught by it that it is okay.

It is not okay.

It is death.

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Thanks, Jeff. We try to keep them short for just that reason.

Inkfingers said:

That won't happen, chips are old tech. It will more likely go to cloud banking with bio recognition rather than anything implanted.

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Yeah maybe so, but I don't think chip technology is old. It may be "old" in the sense that the ability to implement this kind of system has been around for a few decades already, but the concept of implantable chips is still very much new territory for most of the world. Also, what falls within and without the area of "bio-recognition"?

I think a very compelling case could be made for implantable chips falling into the category of biometrics. What has prevented the wide-scale use of implantables before now is human fragility. We fear change. It takes time for us to get used to new methods of performing various tasks. A shift toward cashless money has been happening for decades and based on current tap-and-pay trends, it will almost certainly shift closer and closer to implantable chips.

While more advanced technology may be available even now, so what? It takes time and effort to convince people to change. Banks, governments, and technological companies have been working for decades on getting people used to the idea of implantable technology.

But even with your suggestion of cloud banking, there still needs to be some kind of interface to access the cloud. Phones? Sure, that's a pretty reasonable solution (from a banking point of view), but they are bulky and easy to break/lose or to be stolen. Iris scans? Reasonable, but expensive, less robust, and unnecessarily complex compared to a teeny chip in the hand. For example, what would be easier to build into a phone, an iris scanner, or an RFID scanner? Finger prints? Too easy to fake and far less secure.

Inkfingers said:

Not at all.

I think it will quite possibly be secular, being a 'worship' of the carnal in a broader sense.

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I'm very much agreed with your suggestion that worship can include our interactions with the carnal.