Some reasons not to consider Trump

daughterofthemosthigh7 · Sep 20, 2016

Radrook said:
That is good. Yet if we vote because we think that it will bring the solution when God tells us the that his kingdom is the solution-what exactly are we saying? Catholics have solved that problem by interpreting Gods kingdom a being in each person. But the Bible doesn't speak óf it in that way. It speaks of it as a heavenly government which takes military action against the world governments because it considers the world governments its enemies. This enmity between Earth's governments and God's heavenly kingdom is described in Psalms, Daniel, and Revelation. Should those scriptures be ignored? after all, they were written with a purpose-right?

Matthew 22:21 kjv (?)

Radrook · Sep 20, 2016

bhsmte said:
You are comparing the systematic murder of 6 million people (which was illegal), to gay marriage and abortion?

Immediately after I gave the example I realized that I was going to be asked this question. No, not comparing them in terms of severity. Just comparing the fact that some folks are more sensitive to certain things than others.

daughterofthemosthigh7 · Sep 20, 2016

Radrook said:
On a personal basis? Of course it applies to anyone and everyone who does things out of sheer ignorance. Jesus himself gave us the principle as he was dying on the cross. "Forgive them for they know not what they are doing!""

Sorry don't agree and really am feeling uncomfortable arguing at this point but I will say this as sad/troubling/harsh to us as it sounds and is there's some things that are not for us to comprehend we just can't understand and we also don't get to make up the rules He does He is the Creator He is God & if you ain't with the program then well it's tragic because indeed not everyone is gonna make it and that's fact-- being "good" or "sincere" is just not enough...

bhsmte · Sep 20, 2016

Radrook said:
Immediately after I gave the example I realized that I was going to be asked this question. No, not comparing them in terms of severity. Just comparing the fact that some folks are more sensitive to certain things than others.

It's all relative. Anyone not disturbed by the murder of 6 million people, would fall into the sociopath mode. Other people who wig out because other people live their life differently then them and are not breaking the law, are going to live a life full of angst, because they have no control (and shouldn't) over people living their life as they choose, legally.

Albion · Sep 20, 2016

bhsmte said:
It's all relative. Anyone not disturbed by the murder of 6 million people, would fall into the sociopath mode. .

Yet hatred for the State of Israel--the refuge of Europe's and the Middle East's surviving Jews--is now fashionable on many college campuses, with journalists, and is common in the Democratic Party.

bhsmte · Sep 20, 2016

Albion said:
Yet hatred for the State of Israel--the refuge of Europe's and the Middle East's surviving Jews--is now fashionable on many college campuses, with journalists, and is common in the Democratic Party.

Hatred, or just disagreement? Killing 6 million people, is pretty much in a league of it's own, when it comes to hatred.

Radrook · Sep 20, 2016

daughterofthemosthigh7 said:
Matthew 22:21 kjv (?)

That requires us to determine what really is Caesars and what really belongs to God. Are our lives for Caesar to demand as a sacrifice? Does Caesar have a right to require us to choose its political leaders? Does Caesar have a right to order Christians to place allegiance to Caesar above allegiance to God's Heavenly Kingdom? First-century Christians were convinced that giving Caesar what was Caesar did not mean placing Caesar over Gods Kingdom or becoming for all practical purposes part of the Satanically governed world with its satanic agendas. So they chose to give god what was God's by refusing to participate in the world's politics and wars. It took approx. three centuries under intense persecution from this satanically governed world for that conviction to finally be abandoned. That was the start of the foretold apostasy.

Albion · Sep 20, 2016

bhsmte said:
Hatred, or just disagreement?

Hatred.

The oft-repeated comment about the lesson we were all supposed to have learned from the Holocaust ("Never Forget") has long since been forgotten, though, hasn't it? The millions murdered by various Communist regimes, the massacres in Africa, and the atrocities committed by ISIS and similar groups have barely interested our political Leftists, but let Israel attempt to survive against a host of nations and organizations pledged to exterminate its people...now THAT really gets their moral outrage boiling!

daughterofthemosthigh7 · Sep 20, 2016

Radrook said:
That requires us to determine what really is Caesars and what really belongs to God. Are our lives for Caesar to demand as a sacrifice? Does Caesar have a right to require us to choose its political leaders? Does Caesar have a right to order Christians to place allegiance to Caesar above allegiance to God's Heavenly Kingdom? First-century Christians were convinced that giving Caesar what was Caesar did not mean placing Caesar over Gods Kingdom or becoming for all practical purposes part of the Satanically governed world with its satanic agendas. So they chose to give god what was God's by refusing to participate in the world's politics and wars. It took approx. three centuries under intense persecution from this satanically governed world for that conviction to finally be abandoned. That was the start of the foretold apostasy.

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Radrook · Sep 21, 2016

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Radrook · Sep 21, 2016

bhsmte said:
It's all relative. Anyone not disturbed by the murder of 6 million people, would fall into the sociopath mode. Other people who wig out because other people live their life differently then them and are not breaking the law, are going to live a life full of angst, because they have no control (and shouldn't) over people living their life as they choose, legally.

Well, Lot felt extremely grieved over what was going on in Sodom.

Peter 2:7 ►
and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless

New Living Translation
But God also rescued Lot out of Sodom because he was a righteous man who was sick of the shameful immorality of the wicked people around him.

Radrook · Sep 21, 2016

daughterofthemosthigh7 said:
Basically politics is antichrist system already there are few of honor indeed (exceptions being ppl like Mike Huckabee & Michelle Bachmann) but if we don't exercise our right to vote that's like saying i give up what's the use? just let enemy take over-- gotta try best we can while here to fight powers that be and make sure country remains in good standing with our Creator which sadly it's not anymore that's why i truly believe judgment is soon coming...

If Satan is in charge of the nations, how can a nation be in good graces with God in the way you describe?
The only nation ever spoken of as being in good graces with God was Israel and that relationship was terminated with the New Covenant. The rest of the world, as the scriptures point out are Satan's temporary domain. Jesus did not challenge Satan's claim that he controlled the nations. Furthermore, his control is mentioned repeatedly in other scriptures.

History reveals nations claiming to be in God's good graces slaughtering one another like wild beasts with which they are justifiably compared in the field of battle. Daniel described:
Dan 7:
"Perceiving am I in my vision by night, and behold, four winds of the heavens are rushing forth to the vast sea, and four monstrous animals are coming up from the sea, diverse one from another...."

Isaiah 57:20 ►
New International Version
But the wicked are like the tossing sea, which cannot rest, whose waves cast up mire and mud.

Revelation 21:1 ►
New International Version
Then I saw "a new heaven and a new earth," for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.

MrSpikey · Sep 21, 2016

Albion said:
The oft-repeated comment about the lesson we were all supposed to have learned from the Holocaust ("Never Forget") has long since been forgotten, though, hasn't it? The millions murdered by various Communist regimes, the massacres in Africa, and the atrocities committed by ISIS and similar groups have barely interested our political Leftists, but let Israel attempt to survive against a host of nations and organizations pledged to exterminate its people...now THAT really gets their moral outrage boiling!

The "oft-repeated comment" "Never Forget" is a big idea to live up to.

Neither Israel or the US are in a position to take the moral high ground in that respect, given their policy decision.

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