Defining The Day Of The Lord - Don K Preston (Full Preterist 14 Part Series)

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i hope everyone enjoys this series on defining the day of the lord by don k preston!




The Day of the Lord is when Jesus returns at the end of the age, to gather His people at the resurrection/rapture, and remove the wicked.

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 1 Thessalonians 4:15-5:3


we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.


Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. 1 John 3:2


We will see Him when He comes.


Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. Revelation 1:7


30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. Matthew 24:30



When Jesus comes at the end of the age to gather His people and destroy the wicked, every eye will see Him.



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The wicked are not removed when the day of the
Lord begins. It is way too early; for many more wicked
people have yet to die in their sins clear up to almost
the new earth. The living wicked, not those that died
will be separated as wheat and tares. The holy angels
will take away the wicked..tares people. They will be
beaten first...cut asunder first as shown in Matthew
25.

Here is the Day of the Lord from the New Testament scriptures.

13 But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.
15 For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep. 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. 18 Therefore comfort one another with these words.But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you. 2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night. 3 For when they say, “Peace and safety!” then sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-5:3

For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.


The language describing the coming of the Lord, on the day He gathers His people at the resurrection/rapture, and destroy the wicked, is right here for you to read.


V 15 - the
coming of the Lord...
V 16 - The
Lord will descend from heaven with a shout...
V 17 - we who are alive
and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.
V 2 -
the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.
V 3 - then
sudden destruction comes upon them, as labor pains upon a pregnant woman. And they shall not escape.


and again -


Now, brethren, concerning the
coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, 2 not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. 3 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? 6 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time.
7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 2 Thessalonians 2:1-8



The coming of the Lord results in: The gathering [resurrection/rapture] of His people and the destruction of the antichrist.

  • Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, 2 Thessalonians 2:1
  • And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 2 Thessalonians 2:8

The coming of the Lord = Gathering of His people.
The coming of the Lord = Destruction of the antichrist


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JLB777, did you listen to any of the message at all?

The Bible has prophecies that are hyperbole in nature. Oriental hyperboles that western readers have misguidedly attached Greek western literal renderings to. Great examples:

7 When I blot you out, I will cover the heavens
and make their stars dark;
I will cover the sun with a cloud,
and the moon shall not give its light.
8 All the bright lights of heaven
will I make dark over you,
and put darkness on your land,
declares the Lord God.

9 “I will trouble the hearts of many peoples, when I bring your destruction among the nations, into the countries that you have not known. 10 I will make many peoples appalled at you, and the hair of their kings shall bristle with horror because of you, when I brandish my sword before them. They shall tremble every moment, every one for his own life, on the day of your downfall.

11 “For thus says the Lord God: The sword of the king of Babylon shall come upon you.


Ezekiel 32:7-11


ORIENTAL HYPERBOLE
PLAIN MEANING

And what about the prophecy in Micah chapter 1 regarding the event during the reign of the Jewish king Hezekiah, in which Sennacherib and the Assyrians were at the gates of Jerusalem and the Lord slew 185,000 warriors in the Assyrian camp and Hezekiah and the whole city of Jerusalem did not know it had happened til morning. Watch the Oriental hyperbole the writer of Micah uses:

The word of the Lord that came to Micah in the days of Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, which he saw Samaria and Jerusalem.
The Coming Destruction


2 Hear, you peoples, all of you;
pay attention, O earth, and all that is in it,
and let the Lord God be a witness against you,
the Lord from his holy temple.

3 For behold, the Lord is coming out of his place,
and will come down and tread upon the high places of the earth.
4 And the mountains will melt under him,
and the valleys will split open,
like wax before the fire,
like waters poured down a steep place.

5 All this is for the transgression of Jacob
and for the sins of the house of Israel.
What is the transgression of Jacob?
Is it not Samaria?
And what is the high place of Judah?
Is it not Jerusalem?
6 Therefore I will make Samaria a heap in the open country,
a place for planting vineyards,
and I will pour down her stones into the valley
and uncover her foundations.
7 All her carved images shall be beaten to pieces,
all her wages shall be burned with fire,
and all her idols I will lay waste,
for from the fee of a prostitute she gathered them,
and to the fee of a prostitute they shall return.

8 For this I will lament and wail;
I will go stripped and naked;
I will make lamentation like the jackals,
and mourning like the ostriches.
9 For her wound is incurable,
and it has come to Judah;
it has reached to the gate of my people,
to Jerusalem.


Did any thing that I posted in the red font literally happen while Sennacherib and the Assyrians were overthrowing cities in Israel but were decimated with 185,000 deaths at the gates of Jerusalem by the Lord? No.

I ask you again is God's promises in Genesis 8:21; Psalm 72:7,17; Ecclesiastes 1:4 truly contradictory to Isaiah 65:17-25 & Isaiah 66:19-24? Well lets take a closer look at these two passages in Isaiah which happen to be the only passages that mention a "new heavens and a new earth" in all of the Old Testament. As you know the New Testament has two passages too.

ORIENTAL HYPERBOLE
PLAIN MEANING

New Heavens and a New Earth

17 “For behold, I create new heavens
and a new earth,
and the former things shall not be remembered
or come into mind.
18 But be glad and rejoice forever
in that which I create;
for behold, I create Jerusalem to be a joy,
and her people to be a gladness.
19 I will rejoice in Jerusalem
and be glad in my people;
no more shall be heard in it the sound of weeping
and the cry of distress.
20 No more shall there be in it
an infant who lives but a few days,

or an old man who does not fill out his days,
for the young man shall die a hundred years old,
and the sinner a hundred years old shall be accursed.
21 They shall build houses and inhabit them;
they shall plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
22 They shall not build and another inhabit;
they shall not plant and another eat;
for like the days of a tree shall the days of my people be,
and my chosen shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

23 They shall not labor in vain
or bear children for calamity,
for they shall be the offspring
of the blessed of the Lord,
and their descendants with them.

24 Before they call I will answer;
while they are yet speaking I will hear.
25 The wolf and the lamb shall graze together;
the lion shall eat straw like the ox,
and dust shall be the serpent's food.
They shall not hurt or destroy
in all my holy mountain,”
says the Lord.


Does Isaiah 65 sound like he is describing a literal new material universe a la "new heavens and a new earth" or does it sound like the prophet is describing this present earth under the glorious grace of a superior New Covenant... an everlasting covenant?

Let's look at Isaiah 66:19-21:

19 and I will set a sign among them. And from them I will send survivors to the nations, to Tarshish, and Lud, who draw the bow, to Tubal and Javan,to the coastlands far away, that have not heard my fame or seen my glory. And they shall declare my glory among the nations. 20 And they shall bring all your brothers from all the nations as an offering to the Lord, on horses and in chariots and in litters and on mules and on dromedaries, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, says the Lord, just as the Israelites bring their grain offering in a clean vessel to the house of the Lord. 21 And some of them also I will take for priests and for Levites, says the Lord.


22 “For as the new heavens and the new earth
that I make shall remain before me, says the Lord,

so shall your offspring and your name remain.
23 From new moon to new moon,
and from Sabbath to Sabbath,
all flesh shall come to worship before me,
declares the Lord.

24 “And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.”


Alittle cultural background on that last part of Isaiah 66:24, in 1st century Jerusalem, they believed in the garbage dump of the Valley of Hinnom was the inhabitant of worms (maggots) that never died. The worms/maggots never ceased to exist down there. The Romans used the Valley of Hinnom as a mass grave for the millions that perished in Jerusalem in A.D. 70.


Offspring and dead corpses? Does this sound like a literal new material universe a la "new heavens and a new earth"?


And finally my next piece of evidence comes from 2 Samuel 22:7-16 and Psalm 18 concerning David's deliverance from King Saul, witness the Oriental hyperboles David uses to describe his deliverance:


7 In my distress I called upon the Lord;
to my God I called.
From his temple he heard my voice,
and my cry came to his ears.


8 “Then the earth reeled and rocked;

the foundations of the heavens trembled
and quaked, because he was angry.
9 Smoke went up from his nostrils,
and devouring fire from his mouth;
glowing coals flamed forth from him.
10 He bowed the heavens and came down;
thick darkness was under his feet.
11 He rode on a cherub and flew;
he was seen on the wings of the wind.
12 He madedarkness around him his canopy,
thick clouds, a gathering of water.
13 Out of the brightness before him
coals of fire flamed forth.
14 The Lord thundered from heaven,
and the Most High uttered his voice.
15 And he sent out arrows and scattered them;
lightning, and routed them.
16 Then the channels of the sea were seen;
the foundations of the world were laid bare,
at the rebuke of the Lord,
at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.

2 Samuel 22:7-16

Did any of the Oriental hyperboles (in red font) David uses to describe his deliverance from King Saul literally transpire? No. Also recommend reading Psalm 18 which describes the same event nearly word for word using the same Oriental hyperbole.


So, please listen to Don K Preston's message on the Day of the Lord in its entiriety and then get back to me.


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Matthew 24:30 and Matthew 26:64 is often misinterpreted, Jesus is describing the scene in third heaven not the skies above earth itself. He is prophecying the event of Daniel 7:13-14, the moment He assumes His kingly reign in third heaven aka the Kingdom of Heaven and judges Israel and Jerusalem in A.D. 70.

Jesus prophecied this judgment was coming. And the Jews would know in their hearts, God did not deliver them but judged them just as predicted by Jesus during His earthly ministry.

They don't literally see Jesus in the clouds but are convicted of it in their hearts. That is the proper rendering of these verses in the original Greek.
 
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I hope many will listen to this marvelous message and search the scriptures. And test Don K Preston according to 1 Thessalonians 5:21.

Here is another prime example of Oriental hyperbole that the Bible writers used:


The Day of the Lord


2 Blow a trumpet in Zion;
sound an alarm on my holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble,
for the day of the Lord is coming; it is near,

2 a day of darkness and gloom,
a day of clouds and thick darkness!
Like blackness there is spread upon the mountains
a great and powerful people;
their like has never been before,
nor will be again after them
through the years of all generations.

3 Fire devours before them,
and behind them a flame burns.
The land is like the garden of Eden before them,
but behind them a desolate wilderness,
and nothing escapes them.

4 Their appearance is like the appearance of horses,
and like war horses they run.
5 As with the rumbling of chariots,
they leap on the tops of the mountains,
like the crackling of a flame of fire
devouring the stubble,
like a powerful army
drawn up for battle.

6 Before them peoples are in anguish;
all faces grow pale.
7 Like warriors they charge;
like soldiers they scale the wall.
They march each on his way;
they do not swerve from their paths.
8 They do not jostle one another;
each marches in his path;
they burst through the weapons
and are not halted.
9 They leap upon the city,
they run upon the walls,
they climb up into the houses,
they enter through the windows like a thief.

10The earth quakes before them;

the heavens tremble.
The sun and the moon are darkened,
and the stars withdraw their shining.
11 The Lord utters his voice
before his army,
for his camp is exceedingly great;
he who executes his word is powerful.
For the day of the Lord is great and very awesome;
who can endure it?

Joel 2:1-11

ORIENTAL HYPERBOLE PLAIN MEANING


What is going on here? The Day of the Lord? Or invasion by enemy armies? Or both?

Or maybe our western Greek thought are misinterpreting Oriental hyperbole.

That the darkening of the sun, moon, and stars are merely an expression employed by the prophets to convey the distress a fallen nation undergoes at the time of its overthrow.

Also, when the sun, moon, and stars fall... they are biblical symbols for political and religious ruling powers, the elite and luminaries of these conquered nations and/or cities too. See Genesis 37:9 and Revelation 12:1. Remember during the bronze age, whole cities, nations, mountains, etc had their own patron or representative gods too.
 
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Here is a collection of promises found in the Scripture:

And when the Lord smelledthe pleasing aroma, the Lord said in his heart, “I will never again curse the ground because of man, for the intention of man's heart is evil from his youth. Neither will I ever again strike down EVERY LIVING creature as I have done.

Genesis 8:21

In his days may the righteous flourish,
and peace abound, till the moon be no more!

May his name endure forever,
his fame continue as long as the sun!
May people be blessed in him,
all nations call him blessed!

Psalms 72:7,17

He built his sanctuary like the high heavens,
like the earth, which he has founded forever.

Psalms 78:69

His offspring shall endure forever,
his throne as long as the sun before me.
Like the moon it shall be established forever,
a faithful witness in the skies.” Selah

Psalms 89:36-37

He set the earth on its foundations,
so that it should never be moved.



Psalms 104:5

Praise him, you highest heavens,
and you waters above the heavens!
Let them praise the name of the Lord!
For he commanded and they were created.
And he established them forever and ever;
he gave a decree, and it shall not pass away

Psalms 148:4-6

A generation goes, and a generation comes,
but the earth remains forever.

Ecclesiastes 1:4

to him be glory IN the church and in Christ Jesus THROUGHOUT ALL generations, forever and ever. Amen.

Ephesians 3:21
 
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I am going to color code some passages that will enlighten readers to full preterism aka covenantal eschatology. We believe Revelation is a prophecy about the end of the age, the Jewish age, not the end of time or the end of the material universe. Refer to this post - Defining The Day Of The Lord - Don K Preston (Full Preterist 14 Part Series)

OLD COVENANT AND/OR JEWISH AGE
NEW COVENANT


15 I am the Lord your God,
who stirs up the Red [emphasis mine] sea so that its waves roar—

the Lord of hosts is his name.
16 And I have put my words in your mouth
and covered you in the shadow of my hand,
establishing the heavens
and laying the foundations of the earth,
and saying to Zion, ‘You are my people.’"


ISAIAH 51:15-16

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65 I was ready to be sought by those who did not ask for me;
I was ready to be found by those who did not seek me.
I said, “Here I am, here I am,”
to a nation that was not called by my name.

2 I spread out my hands all the day
to a rebellious people,
who walk in a way that is not good,
following their own devices;
3 a people who provoke me
to my face continually,
sacrificing in gardens
and making offerings on bricks;
4 who sit in tombs,
and spend the night in secret places;
who eat pig's flesh,
and broth of tainted meat is in their vessels;
5 who say, “Keep to yourself,
do not come near me, for I am too holy for you.”
These are a smoke in my nostrils,
a fire that burns all the day.
6 Behold, it is written before me:
I will not keep silent, but I will repay;
I will indeed repay into their lap
7 both your iniquities and your fathers' iniquities together,
says the Lord;
because they made offerings on the mountains
and insulted me on the hills,
I will measure into their lap
payment for their former deeds.”



8 Thus says the Lord:
As the new wine is found in the cluster,
and they say, ‘Do not destroy it,
for there is a blessing in it,’
so I will do for my servants' sake,
and not destroy them all.
9 I will bring forth offspring from Jacob,
and from Judah possessors of my mountains;
my chosen shall possess it,
and my servants shall dwell there.
10 Sharon shall become a pasture for flocks,
and the Valley of Achor a place for herds to lie down,
for my people who have sought me.

11 But you who forsake the Lord,
who forget my holy mountain,
who set a table for Fortune
and fill cups of mixed wine for Destiny,
12 I will destine you to the sword,
and all of you shall bow down to the slaughter,
because, when I called, you did not answer;
when I spoke, you did not listen,
but you did what was evil in my eyes
and chose what I did not delight in.”


13 Therefore thus says the Lord God:
“Behold, my servants shall eat,

but you shall be hungry;
behold, my servants shall drink,
but you shall be thirsty;
behold, my servants shall rejoice,
but you shall be put to shame;
14 behold, my servants shall sing for gladness of heart,
but you shall cry out for pain of heart
and shall wail for breaking of spirit.
15 You shall leave your name to my chosen for a curse,
and the Lord God will put you to death,

but his servants he will call by another name.
16 So that he who blesses himself in the land
shall bless himself by the God of truth,
and he who takes an oath in the land
shall swear by the God of truth;
because the former troubles are forgotten
and are hidden from my eyes.


New Heavens and a New Earth
17 “For behold, I create new heavens
and a new earth,
and the former things shall not be remembered
or come into mind.
18 But be glad and rejoice forever
in that which I create;
for behold, I create Jerusalem to be a joy,
and her people to be a gladness.
19 I will rejoice in Jerusalem
and be glad in my people;
no more shall be heard in it the sound of weeping
and the cry of distress.
20 No more shall there be in it
an infant who lives but a few days,
or an old man who does not fill out his days,
for the young man shall die a hundred years old,
and the sinner a hundred years old shall be accursed.
21 They shall build houses and inhabit them;
they shall plant vineyards and eat their fruit.
22 They shall not build and another inhabit;
they shall not plant and another eat;
for like the days of a tree shall the days of my people be,
and my chosen shall long enjoy the work of their hands.
23 They shall not labor in vain
or bear children for calamity,
for they shall be the offspring of the blessed of the Lord,
and their descendants with them.
24 Before they call I will answer;
while they are yet speaking I will hear.
25 The wolf and the lamb shall graze together;
the lion shall eat straw like the ox,
and dust shall be the serpent's food.
They shall not hurt or destroy
in all my holy mountain,”
says the Lord.


ISAIAH 65

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19 and I will set a sign among them. And from them I will send survivors to the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, who draw the bow, to Tubal and Javan, to the coastlands far away, that have not heard my fame or seen my glory. And they shall declare my glory among the nations. 20 And they shall bring all your brothers from all the nations as an offering to the Lord, on horses and in chariots and in litters and on mules and on dromedaries, to my holy mountain Jerusalem, says the Lord, just as the Israelites bring their grain offering in a clean vessel to the house of the Lord. 21 And some of them also I will take for priests and for Levites, says the Lord.


22 “For as the new heavens and the new earth
that I make shall remain before me, says the Lord,
so shall your offspring and your name remain.
23 From new moon to new moon,
and from Sabbath to Sabbath,
all flesh shall come to worship before me,
declares the Lord.


24 “And they shall go out and look on the dead bodies of the men who have rebelled against me. For their worm shall not die, their fire shall not be quenched, and they shall be an abhorrence to all flesh.”

ISAIAH 66:19-24

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17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.

MATTHEW 5:17-18

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I hope readers will watch this 14 part video series from Don K Preston on the "Day of the Lord" or rather what the nature of it is. It is one of my personal favorites right up there with his video series on Hal Lindsay and Dispensationalism.
 
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