i dont want any discussion all i want is a list of verses that prove the rapture.
Yesterday at 07:02 AM ephod said this in Post #10
The two witnesses represent the witnessing church, comprised of Gods two witnesses on earth---Israel and the Church, rather than two individuals:
The church received power to witness at Pentecost, see verse 3 'I will give power to my two witnesses and they will prophecy...' cf. Acts 1:8 and 2:18.
Two is the number to establish a witness, testimony (Deu 17:6, John 8:17, 2 Cor 13:1), for example our Lord sent his disciple out in twos, Mark 6:7.
They are described as 'the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth' 11:4. We have already seen that the church is symbolised by lampstands in 1:20. The olive trees represent the power of the Holy Spirit with which the witnesses had received (Acts 1:5, 1:8, 2:17).
They prophecy for the same period (1,260 days) as the worshippers, temple of God and holy city is trampled on by the Gentiles (42 months). These three designations are all indicative of the church.
They rise from the dead and are raptured as is the church (11:11-12).
11:7 indicates that '...the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them' i.e. the two witnesses this parallels the warning in 13:7 that the beast 'was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them' see also the warning in 13:10. If the two events are indeed parallel then the two witnesses are the saints.
v4 - These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth. - The two olive trees, meaning a plenteous supply of oil for the lamps, i.e. the Spirit, this image comes from Zech 4:2. The two witnesses are to witness in the power of the Holy Spirit, the famous phrase 'Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit' comes from Zech 4:6. Notice also the seven lamps of the Holy Spirit mentioned in 4:5, these are the seven lamps on the lampstand opposite to the table with the bread on it, Exo 40:22. The image of a lampstand is in Zech 4:2 and also in Rev 1:20, where the lampstand is the church, the church is the light of the world (Mat 5:14) and the church is a light in the darkness of the world (Acts 13:47). There are two olive tress and two lampstands because two are required to establish the truth of a testimony, it does not mean that only two sevenths of the church will testify, it is part of the symbolism of the passage. God will pour out his Spirit upon the church and it will prophesy, Acts 2:16-21, this was first fulfilled at Pentecost and is being fulfilled throughout the church age and will be fulfilled again before the antichrist appears. The two anointed ones who serve the Lord are Zerubbabel and Joshua who stand for the kingly and priestly function of the ministry (Hag 1:1, Zech 4), in Rev 1:6 the saints are referred to as a 'kingdom and priests to serve God'. Elijah and Moses later refer to the prophetic ministry (verses 5 & 6). Rev 1:6, 5:10 and 20:6 all refer to the priestly ministry of the saints while verses 3, 6, and 10 here refer to the prophetic ministry (see also 11:18, 16:16, 18:20, 18:24, 22:9).
Daniel 12:5-7 covers this time frame also.
We are a bit off track from the thread origin here but I also see the Rapture of the believers here in Rev 11:11-12----at the time of the last trumpet (7th trumpet)