(moved) What can be done to improve the race relations in America?

Tull said:

Ok,calm yourself and read what I was responding to,race has been made an issue regardless of any personal opinions you have about it.

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O.K. sorry for misreading.
I get it now.

Far Side Of the Moon said:

I agree with that, I just didnt know what you were talking about. I feel there's no need to classify people as black,white,Hispanic or whatever like were animals. Were all people. And I never understood why it needed to be done when applying for jobs,schools ECT...like what for? But yah we literally are all connected to one another.

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When I'm completing an application and get to the race boxes, I write under "other" : "SON OF ADAM". RACE/RACISM is one of the most EVIL lies ever perpetrated on the West. Understand the roots of racism = kill the evil myth (like Saint George killing the dragon).

The best solution is to separate the races. That is the only way to resolve all the bickering. Many people think that coming together as one will fix the problem, but that has already been done, and look at the results: hate crimes, destruction of cultures, Islamic invasion of Europe, etc. Contrary to popular opinion, it is actually separation that will bring peace and harmony to our world.

[Acts 17:26] ...and hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation...

Now before you label me a racist biggot, please consider something here. The above passage states that God made one blood (not one race), and all nations (races). Why would God even bother making different nations if he believed every human should be one race? Would he have just made us look all the same if that were the case? I am not saying that one race is superior to another, but races are very natural created by God and should be recognized and respected. There is evidence that different races are better adapted in certain climates than others, that there are differences in IQ levels and behaviors, etc. If you don't agree and would rather believe race is nothing more than a social construct, than you mind as well say it is a sin, for example, for a Chinese man to recognize himself as Chinese and to be proud of his heritage—that it is a sin to recognize the nature in which God created you.

The notion that we are all one race from Adam is straight up ridiculous. You mind as well say that God is a hypocrite for telling the Israelites not to mix with the Canaanites, Jebusites, etc. Jesus himself labeled Canaanites as "dogs" (Matthew 15:26). So yeah, it is not Biblical to believe that we are all one.

You guys see this? Far side of the moon I told you this was a clown forum. The difference between being black and white is that I can read between the lines on what people say. It was only a matter of time before people just got real and stated how they REALLY felt instead of beating around the bush. I can't afford to not realize racism even when it's very hidden.

What can be done to improve the race relations in America?

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Stop treating different races differently. Help the disadvantaged to level the playing field.

MountainPine said:

The best solution is to separate the races. That is the only way to resolve all the bickering. Many people think that coming together as one will fix the problem, but that has already been done, and look at the results: hate crimes, destruction of cultures, Islamic invasion of Europe, etc. Contrary to popular opinion, it is actually separation that will bring peace and harmony to our world.

[Acts 17:26] ...and hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation...

Now before you label me a racist biggot, please consider something here. The above passage states that God made one blood (not one race), and all nations (races). Why would God even bother making different nations if he believed every human should be one race? Would he have just made us look all the same if that were the case? I am not saying that one race is superior to another, but races are very natural created by God and should be recognized and respected. There is evidence that different races are better adapted in certain climates than others, that there are differences in IQ levels and behaviors, etc. If you don't agree and would rather believe race is nothing more than a social construct, than you mind as well say it is a sin, for example, for a Chinese man to recognize himself as Chinese and to be proud of his heritage—that it is a sin to recognize the nature in which God created you.

The notion that we are all one race from Adam is straight up ridiculous. You mind as well say that God is a hypocrite for telling the Israelites not to mix with the Canaanites, Jebusites, etc. Jesus himself labeled Canaanites as "dogs" (Matthew 15:26). So yeah, it is not Biblical to believe that we are all one.

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Biblical vegan?

Sure, why not?

simple answer to the OP's thread title. Ban the media from any coverage of crime... They always cover crime on blacks but never any other race even though others outnumber them in victims. They also ignore crimes they commit against each other. Also baiting there too. They lead them to believe it's just them being hated on since they don't go by anything other than what's on TV clearly...

Black on black, almost zero news coverage.
Black on white. a blurb maybe.
White on black, headlines.
White cop on blacks, Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson get major
headlines and free press.
White cop hurt by blacks = no coverage and "well it was his job
anyway".

MountainPine said:

The best solution is to separate the races. That is the only way to resolve all the bickering. Many people think that coming together as one will fix the problem, but that has already been done, and look at the results: hate crimes, destruction of cultures, Islamic invasion of Europe, etc. Contrary to popular opinion, it is actually separation that will bring peace and harmony to our world.

[Acts 17:26] ...and hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation...

Now before you label me a racist biggot, please consider something here. The above passage states that God made one blood (not one race), and all nations (races). Why would God even bother making different nations if he believed every human should be one race? Would he have just made us look all the same if that were the case? I am not saying that one race is superior to another, but races are very natural created by God and should be recognized and respected. There is evidence that different races are better adapted in certain climates than others, that there are differences in IQ levels and behaviors, etc. If you don't agree and would rather believe race is nothing more than a social construct, than you mind as well say it is a sin, for example, for a Chinese man to recognize himself as Chinese and to be proud of his heritage—that it is a sin to recognize the nature in which God created you.

The notion that we are all one race from Adam is straight up ridiculous. You mind as well say that God is a hypocrite for telling the Israelites not to mix with the Canaanites, Jebusites, etc. Jesus himself labeled Canaanites as "dogs" (Matthew 15:26). So yeah, it is not Biblical to believe that we are all one.

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God did create different nations or peoples however, how many times did God send the Israelites to go live among other nations? Even if they were to keep their own statutes in those nations, they still mixed with them, did business together, and lived among one another.

As far as interracial crime goes, it is a minute amount (almost nothing) compared to same race on same race crime.

Making all the different peoples of the world does show God's glory, however never mixing only promotes disputes over land and resources. Coming together is the only way to make peace.

God does not show partiality or favoritism (Deuteronomy 10:17; 17 For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe. Acts 10:34; 34 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, Romans 2:11; Ephesians 6:9),

Those who discriminate are “judges with evil thoughts.” James 2:4 4 have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?

May Galatians 3:28 be completely realized
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave 7 nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

I just hope all white folk know that they wouldn't have been able to survive as long as they have been around if it was not for minority groups. The most ungreatfull race known to man. Did you know that it was the Moores(black people) that taught European people how to be clean because they kept getting sick with diseases? Then when European people came to America it was the native americans that taught white folks how to survive off land then they killed them all. At the same time began the slave trade for 400+ years living off of others. I just hope white folks get saved before Christ comes cause yal know you'll be the minority in heaven.

MountainPine said:

Now before you label me a racist biggot, please consider something here. The above passage states that God made one blood (not one race), and all nations (races).

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Quote me the word "RACE" or "RACISM" in the Bible. STOP SPREADING HATRED MountainPine. Race and Racism are both evil lies pushed on Western Civilization. Any two year old Christian knows "RACE" is a lie.

The Ascetic Crusader said:

Quote me the word "RACE" or "RACISM" in the Bible. STOP SPREADING HATRED MountainPine. Race and Racism are both evil lies pushed on Western Civilization. Any two year old Christian knows "RACE" is a lie.

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Where did I say anything hateful? You just bore false witness against me.

rturner76 said:

May Galatians 3:28 be completely realized
28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave 7 nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

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Ok, so does being one in Christ also mean that a man no longer has authority over his woman (Ephesians 5:22, 1 Peter 3:1-2)? Or that a slave no longer has to obey his master (Colossians 3:22)? This passage is not meant to be taken out of context to promote an egalitarian idea, nor to do away with the consciousness of race. Being one in Christ means those who obey Christ in fellowship. Those who obey Christ obey the commandments (Matthew 5:17-18; 19:17). The commandments tell us not to race mix. To have fellowship is one thing. To intermix races and cultures is another.

rturner76 said:

God does not show partiality or favoritism (Deuteronomy 10:17; 17 For the Lord your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe. Acts 10:34; 34 So Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I understand that God shows no partiality, Romans 2:11; Ephesians 6:9),

Those who discriminate are “judges with evil thoughts.” James 2:4 4 have you not then made distinctions among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?

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You're assuming that I'm promoting superiority. Promoting the consciousness of race is a separate idea than saying one race is superior to another. All I said was that races and cultures need to be respected. How to you use that to conclude that I'm judging people based on race?

rturner76 said:

Making all the different peoples of the world does show God's glory, however never mixing only promotes disputes over land and resources.

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No it doesn't. If everyone had stayed in their allotments from the beginning (Acts 17:26) then no one would ever fight over resources. That's a stupid argument anyway. People have developed trading posts throughout history. All we need to do is trade resources. We don't need to intermix.

rturner76 said:

Coming together is the only way to make peace.

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We've been doing that. Again, look at the results: the Arab invasion of Europe is destroying European culture, we have racial hate crimes (black on white), etc. etc. Open your eyes and look around. That's clearly not the solution.

Dionne005 said:

I just hope all white folk know that they wouldn't have been able to survive as long as they have been around if it was not for minority groups. The most ungreatfull race known to man. Did you know that it was the Moores(black people) that taught European people how to be clean because they kept getting sick with diseases? Then when European people came to America it was the native americans that taught white folks how to survive off land then they killed them all. At the same time began the slave trade for 400+ years living off of others. I just hope white folks get saved before Christ comes cause yal know you'll be the minority in heaven.

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this made me laugh uncontrollably... Going to heaven has NOTHING to do with humanity or its existence.... it's a relationship between the individual and God.... Souls go to heaven, not bodies so their is certainly no justification to your statement. As far as slave trade, it was blacks who sold their own kind into slavery and more went to South America with Portuguese than anywhere else. Look at south American countries. Every last one a craphole... that's the result of people mixing and not being clean or smart. Look at Norway. 97% white, 95% of crime caused by the remaining 3%.... from Africa and the middle east....

jeager016 said:

Black on black, almost zero news coverage.
Black on white. a blurb maybe.
White on black, headlines.
White cop on blacks, Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson get major
headlines and free press.
White cop hurt by blacks = no coverage and "well it was his job
anyway".

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I don't know what media you're watching, but white cop hurt by blacks makes international headlines.

Sir Robbins said:

this made me laugh uncontrollably... Going to heaven has NOTHING to do with humanity or its existence.... it's a relationship between the individual and God.... Souls go to heaven, not bodies so their is certainly no justification to your statement. As far as slave trade, it was blacks who sold their own kind into slavery and more went to South America with Portuguese than anywhere else. Look at south American countries. Every last one a craphole... that's the result of people mixing and not being clean or smart. Look at Norway. 97% white, 95% of crime caused by the remaining 3%.... from Africa and the middle east....

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Here we go again, Sir Robbins, how did you get that from what I said. Africans from other countries did sell there slaves but they also didn't sell them into cattle slavery too. Not for the kids kids kids to be slaves. No. Also after whites bought them out they came back and got the blacks who were selling too so stop acting like it was just a buy and sell thing. 2 sins don't make a right. If someone was selling drugs are you going to say, well they were selling it so of course I'm going to buy it, what do you expect? Just know that white ancestors no matter how much they "preached" there "bible" they in hell as we speak.

Dionne005 said:

I just hope all white folk know that they wouldn't have been able to survive as long as they have been around if it was not for minority groups. The most ungreatfull race known to man. Did you know that it was the Moores(black people) that taught European people how to be clean because they kept getting sick with diseases? Then when European people came to America it was the native americans that taught white folks how to survive off land then they killed them all. At the same time began the slave trade for 400+ years living off of others. I just hope white folks get saved before Christ comes cause yal know you'll be the minority in heaven.

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You cant be serious. Your understanding of history is laughable. And your own racism is more than obvious.

So what part is false? What is the truth then? And you should read the definition of what racism is. Can you tell me the definition of racism? Post it here once you find it and tell me how have I been racist.

Dionne005 said:

And you should read the definition of what racism is. Can you tell me the definition of racism? Post it here once you find it and tell me how have I been racist.

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You are kidding, I hope. We did read your post 230.

Far Side Of the Moon said:

Its evident there's tension and anger..I can even see it cross over into the forums.

I think one obvious step is to of course hear each other out and make an effort to understand each person's point of view. However, the problem with that is that things can get heated really quickly and just deter from the intended goal.

Equality is what everyone is obviously crying from their soul, from whites concerning proper news coverage when it comes to black on white crimes..or just crimes period... To blacks with simple justice concerning white on black crimes ( these are just *some* of the things I heard) ...

However to do this it would require an unbiased mind...still a start would be nice.

Serious answers..only..

No pot stirrers.

Everyone is free to have an opinion..just let it add something to the goal of the thread.

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Fully intended as a serious answer.

Nothing. Not at this stage of our societal evolution. The division in the world is layers deep.Race is just one strata.
As soon as any effort appears to be working to make America, being that is my homeland, appear to be diverse and at peace and working toward a goal of unity where race is not an issue, pot stirrers who have a vested interest in the divisiveness continuing show up.
They repackage the racist rhetoric so as to establish yet another schism between they who are feeling entitled, and them who are suffering for it.
Now the rhetoric has adopted a new term to add to its lexicon; privilege.

Which necessarily implies a license , an exemption, to exist above all others. It isn't true but the implication is there. And today's minds raised in a slowly evolving climate of victimization readily adopt the persona of apology if they happen to fit within the parameters of the ones designated as the favored.

But it all started far longer ago than what we see transpiring today in the breakdown of communities along the chasm of race. And you'll notice, authority.

When we started as a human race to believe one group of us were privileged, superior, elected, above all others on the planet because we and we alone 'owned' the source that made everything that exists, the ground for the chasm we have now was broken.

What can be done to improve race relations in America?
Be the change you want to see America achieve. Be authentic. Don't see "other" when you see people. See mirrors of yourself reflected back at you as that which could have been.
Christians are familiar with the old axiom, but for the grace of God there go I.
A great reminder the next time I ever think to judge someone by how they look, how they walk, how they dress, how they speak.

That's how we achieve change in America. For too long many of us have looked to something smaller but more powerful to save us. Government. Is it any wonder the nanny state is growing bigger for the job we hand to it?

You are the seed of change in America in matters of race relations. Human relations. You.
Don't cleave to groups to unite with the same mind you have. We see where that leads. Groups are created of individuals who all have the same goal in mind but each and everyone has a different notion of how to get there.

And it will show sooner or later. And also you'll notice groups deepen the chasm of racial divide in America. The human pride movements are ridiculous. "I'm proud to be white!" "I'm proud to be black!" "I'm proud to be native American!"
Get over it. It isn't like you were sitting in the gene pool flipping through a catalog and picked the race you wanted to attach yourself to in utero.
You're here because two people made up their minds to have sex. You have not a thing to be proud about .

What you have that you can feel pride for is how you live your life treating others who live theirs. Do you know why the whole world is screwed up despite all the different religion promising it gets better when we're dead? Meanwhile it can be better if we only vote for___________________?

Because all the individuals that believe they think alike about all things pertaining to a better life and way of living get together and look across the way at all the others who did the same thing.
And what happens? The minority number of us that is diverse in race, religion, gender, are asked to bring it all to order with laws. And all the laws set a parameter wherein "normal" is defined as much as it can be. And 'abnormal' is too.
And then once those rules for behaviors and thoughts are set down we're let to be who we are. First thinking we're free to do that. When really we're not at all. We're only let to operate on a personal level within the confines of those aforementioned laws. And therein is yet another division that separates us.

As the individual you think like this about yourself. And the world.
As an individual living in any nation of laws how you think and what you do is confined to a set of behavioral constructs set forth by others not you. And then society as a whole because of cultural rules has already set a set of constructs defining that.
"You don't understand black culture.....!" "You don't understand native culture....!"

We're all here claiming our piece of ground, for the sake of our autonomy, while believing for the world to have peace more than 7 billion individuals have to reach an accord to let each other be.

Dionne005 said:

Here we go again, Sir Robbins, how did you get that from what I said. Africans from other countries did sell there slaves but they also didn't sell them into cattle slavery too. Not for the kids kids kids to be slaves. No. Also after whites bought them out they came back and got the blacks who were selling too so stop acting like it was just a buy and sell thing. 2 sins don't make a right. If someone was selling drugs are you going to say, well they were selling it so of course I'm going to buy it, what do you expect? Just know that white ancestors no matter how much they "preached" there "bible" they in hell as we speak.

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"their" bible... I'm not sure where you obtained this information about history but if your knowledge of the world only comes from a classroom, television or internet, you're poorly educated or highly misinformed about a large number of events and their details. Again, I'm not sure where they came from. You can believe what you want just as we believe what we want. My answer is I simply don't believe you and your statements. There is no evidence to support them... unlike Christ and Christianity, I don't have faith in your statements. As for preaching a bible..... I see more crooked blacks in churches than anywhere else. Look how many unwed mothers and pimps sit in pews.... just sayin. It goes both ways. Don't criticize one race when yours are guilty of the same