If you Love Me - KEEP My Commandments

BobRyan · Aug 27, 2016

BABerean2 said:
You fail to admit that the law was "added" 430 years "after" the promise made to Abraham

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Was there ever a time - OT or NT - when taking God's name in vain was "just fine -- go ahead... do it"???

Genesis 26:"5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."

Gal 1:6-9 - there is only ONE Gospel
Gal 3:7 the Gospel was preached to Abraham

Where there is no Law -- there is no sin. Romans 4.

"Sin IS transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4

The Law was not written on stone - until 430 years after Abraham.

NEW Covenant - Jer 31:31-33 "I will write My LAWS on their heart and mind"
NEW Covenant Heb 8:6-10 "I will write My LAWS on their heart and mind"

BABerean2 said:
Was it before October 22, 1844 ?
Was the Door shut or open?
Did Ellen G. White debunk it?

Shut Door Documents from the estate of Ellen G. White
http://www.whiteestate.org/issues/shutdoor.html

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Earth to BABeran2 -- feel free to join the conversation

Jan001 said:
What gospel (Galatians 1:6-9, 3:7) did God preach to Abraham?

The Gospel preached to Abraham
John 8 'Abraham SAW MY DAY and was glad" --

Gal 1:6-9 - there is only ONE Gospel
Gal 3:7 the Gospel was preached to Abraham

1 Peter 1
9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow."

God certainly did not preach the same exact Ten Commandments of the law of Moses to Abraham

I guess we have "YOUR word" for that. Not God's

I prefer the Bible "instead".

Genesis 26:"5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."

BobRyan · Aug 27, 2016

BABerean2 said:
You are absolutely correct on this point in that nine of the ten commandments are repeated somewhere in the New Testament.
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Yes I am right about that - the only one not quoted in the NT in whole or in part is the commandment to not take God's name in vain.

It is not quoted at all in the NT

Making up "fluff" rules that a command must be deleted if it is not repeated in the NT is the sort of nonsense made-uo-doctrine man-made-tradition we get from those at war with God's Commandments. As we all know by now.

BobRyan · Aug 27, 2016

Jan001 said:
I am still waiting for an answer to the following:

How do you explain the following:

Hebrews 7:12
For when there is a change in the priesthood, there is necessarily a change in the law as well. rsv

Hebrews 7 is talking about the laws dictating who can be a priest - since Christ was not a descendant of Levi - Paul is making the case that Christ can be our High Priest -- though He is not a Levite.

Bible details matter.

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Romans 6:14-16
For sin (transgressions committed against the commands in the law of Moses) will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. 15 What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! 16 Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to any one as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? rsv

What then are we to sin (Sin IS transgression of the LAW 1 John 3:4)... no because SIN shall not have dominion over you and SIN is transgression. So Romans 6 is setting us free from sin - not deleting the Law that defines sin

bugkiller · Aug 27, 2016

BobRyan said:
Was there ever a time - OT or NT - when taking God's name in vain was "just fine -- go ahead... do it"???

Genesis 26:"5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."

Gal 1:6-9 - there is only ONE Gospel
Gal 3:7 the Gospel was preached to Abraham

Where there is no Law -- there is no sin. Romans 4.

"Sin IS transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4

The Law was not written on stone - until 430 years after Abraham.

NEW Covenant - Jer 31:31-33 "I will write My LAWS on their heart and mind"
NEW Covenant Heb 8:6-10 "I will write My LAWS on their heart and mind"

Earth to BABeran2 -- feel free to join the conversation

The Gospel preached to Abraham
John 8 'Abraham SAW MY DAY and was glad" --

Gal 1:6-9 - there is only ONE Gospel
Gal 3:7 the Gospel was preached to Abraham

1 Peter 1
9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow."

I guess we have "YOUR word" for that. Not God's

I prefer the Bible "instead".

Genesis 26:"5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."

Here's the Bible from the very same author who testifies against you -

5 And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.

2 The Lord our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.

3 The Lord made not this covenant with our fathers, but with us, even us, who are all of us here alive this day. Deuteronomy

bugkiller

bugkiller · Aug 27, 2016

BobRyan said:
Yes I am right about that - the only one not quoted in the NT in whole or in part is the commandment to not take God's name in vain.

It is not quoted at all in the NT

Making up "fluff" rules that a command must be deleted if it is not repeated in the NT is the sort of nonsense made-uo-doctrine man-made-tradition we get from those at war with God's Commandments. As we all know by now.

Oh my. Will you kindly post the 4th commandment being quoted in the NT?

bugkiller

Travis93 · Aug 27, 2016

BobRyan said:
Yes I am right about that - the only one not quoted in the NT in whole or in part is the commandment to not take God's name in vain.

It is not quoted at all in the NT

Making up "fluff" rules that a command must be deleted if it is not repeated in the NT is the sort of nonsense made-uo-doctrine man-made-tradition we get from those at war with God's Commandments. As we all know by now.

Good point. Is it okay to commit inappropriate behavior with animals?
Deuteronomy 27:21 Cursed be he that lieth with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen.
How about setting someone's field on fire?
Exodus 22:6 If fire break out, and catch in thorns, so that the stacks of corn, or the standing corn, or the field, be consumed therewith; he that kindled the fire shall surely make restitution.
Is it acceptable now to vex the disabled?
Leviticus 19:14 Thou shalt not curse the deaf, nor put a stumblingblock before the blind, but shalt fear thy God: I am the Lord.

BABerean2 · Aug 28, 2016

Jan001 said:
The sabbath law given to the Israelites did not exist until 430 years after God preached the gospel to Abraham.

Excellent point.
The Sabbath was the actual sign of the Old covenant, given to the children of Israel at Sinai.

Exo_31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

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LittleLambofJesus · Aug 28, 2016

The LORDs Day in Bible and the destruction of OC Jerusalem...........

http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Library.sr/CT/BQA/k/168/What-is-Lords-Day-Revelation-110.htm

If one wants to insist upon this text applying to a definite day of the week, he must look elsewhere to see which day the Bible calls the Lord's Day. Jesus says in Mark 2:28 that He is Lord of the Sabbath, and thus, as Master of that day, it belongs to Him.
The only day that belongs to Him is the Sabbath, the seventh day of the week.
Isaiah 58:13 calls the Sabbath "My [the Lord's!] holy day." The other six days are ours to do our work and pleasures.
13 You must observe the Sabbath rather than doing anything you want on my holy day.
You must look forward to the Sabbath and treat the Lord's holy day with respect. You must treat it with respect by refraining from your normal activities, and by refraining from your selfish pursuits and from making business deals.

Could the LORD's Day and Day of the LORD both signify the event occurring on a Sabbath?
Look at Matt 24:20

Matt 24:19
"Woe yet to those in belly having and to those suckling in those the days!
20 Be ye praying yet that no may be becoming the flight of ye of winter neither a Sabbath"
Revelation 1:10
"I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great Voice"—

Notice what day God allowed the Roman army to start the siege of Jerusalem:

http://www.bible.ca/pre-destruction70AD-george-holford-1805AD.htm
The Destruction Of JERUSALEM
An Absolute and Irresistible PROOF OF THE DIVINE ORIGIN OF CHRISTIANITY:

...............The day on which Titus encompassed Jerusalem, was the feast of the Passover; and it is deserving of the very particular attention of the reader, that this was the anniversary of that memorable period in which the Jews crucified their Messiah!..........
the City was at this time crowded with Jewish strangers and foreigners from all parts, so that the whole Nation may be considered as having been shut up in one prison, preparatory to the execution of the Divine vengeance.........................

This memorable siege terminated on the eighth day of the ninth month, A. D. 70 : its duration was nearly five months, the Romans having invested the city on the fourteenth day of the fourth month, preceeding.

In executing the command of Titus, relative to the demolition of Jerusalem, the Roman soldiers not only threw down the buildings, but even dug up their foundations, and so completely levelled the whole circuit of the city, that a stranger would scarcely have known that it had ever been inhabited by human beings.
Thus was this great City, which only five months before, had been crowded with nearly two millions of people, who gloried in its impregnable strength, entirely depopulated, and levelled with the ground. And thus, also was our LORD'S prediction, that her enemies should "lay her even with the ground," and "should not leave in her one stone upon another, " (Luke xix. 44.)

Reve 14:8
And another Messenger, second-one, follows saying "She falls, She falls, Babylon the Great,

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Jan001 · Aug 28, 2016

BobRyan said:
The Gospel preached to Abraham
John 8 'Abraham SAW MY DAY and was glad" --

Gal 1:6-9 - there is only ONE Gospel
Gal 3:7 the Gospel was preached to Abraham

1 Peter 1
9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow."

I guess we have "YOUR word" for that. Not God's

I prefer the Bible "instead".

Genesis 26:"5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."

You are the one who believes in Sola Scriptura. There is no Scriptural evidence that God preached the Ten commandments to Abraham. There is no Scriptural evidence that Abraham was commanded to keep the Sabbath. No one knows exactly what all of God's commandments, statutes, and laws were for Abraham.

Galatians 3:13-18
Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law (of Moses), having become a curse for us—for it is written, “Cursed be every one who hangs on a tree”— 14 that in Christ Jesus the blessing of Abraham might come upon the Gentiles, that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
15 To give a human example, brethren: no one annuls even a man’s will, or adds to it, once it has been ratified. 16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many; but, referring to one, “And to your offspring,” which is Christ. 17 This is what I mean: the law, which came four hundred and thirty years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void. 18 For if the inheritance is by the law, it is no longer by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise. rsv

Romans 6:14
For sin (sin committed against the law of Moses) will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law (of Moses) but under grace. rsv

The gospel preached to Abraham:

Abraham's offspring (Jesus Christ) will make it possible for Abraham's descendants to receive the Holy Spirit by grace through faith just as Abraham received the Holy Spirit by grace through faith.

The gospel that was preached to Abraham is that his offspring Jesus Christ will save/justify Abraham's descendants in every nation by faith and they will receive the Holy Spirit. If they remain faithful to God through their many trials and tribulations until they die, they will inherit eternal life and the world.

Acts 10:34-35
And Peter opened his mouth and said: “Truly I perceive that God shows no partiality, 35 but in every nation any one who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him. rsv

Romans 4:13
The promise to Abraham and his descendants, that they should inherit the world, did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith. rsv

Romans 4:15-17
For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression. 16 That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his descendants—not only to the adherents of the law but also to those who share the faith of Abraham, for he is the father of us all, 17 as it is written, “I have made you the father of many nations”—in the presence of the God in whom he believed, who gives life to the dead and calls into existence the things that do not exist. rsv

Ephesians 2:1-10
And you he made alive, when you were dead through the trespasses and sins 2 in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience. 3 Among these we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, following the desires of body and mind, and so we were by nature children of wrath, like the rest of mankind. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, out of the great love with which he loved us, 5 even when we were dead through our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with him, and made us sit with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and this is not your own doing, it is the gift of God— 9 not because of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. rsv

The law of Moses has no authority over Christians.

Jan001 · Aug 28, 2016

BobRyan said:
Hebrews 7 is talking about the laws dictating who can be a priest - since Christ was not a descendant of Levi - Paul is making the case that Christ can be our High Priest -- though He is not a Levite.

Bible details matter.

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Romans 6:14-16
For sin (transgressions committed against the commands in the law of Moses) will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. 15 What then? Are we to sin because we are not under law but under grace? By no means! 16 Do you not know that if you yield yourselves to any one as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one whom you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness? rsv

What then are we to sin (Sin IS transgression of the LAW 1 John 3:4)... no because SIN shall not have dominion over you and SIN is transgression. So Romans 6 is setting us free from sin - not deleting the Law that defines sin

Sin has no dominion over people who obey the law of Jesus Christ.

Galatians 3:24-25
So that the law was our custodian until Christ came, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a custodian; rsv

We Christians are no longer under the law of Moses. We Christians are under the law of Christ.

Galatians 6:2
Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. rsv

1 John 3:23
And this is his commandment, that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us.

LittleLambofJesus · Aug 28, 2016

Jan001 said:
You are the one who believes in Sola Scriptura. There is no Scriptural evidence that God preached the Ten commandments to Abraham.
There is no Scriptural evidence that Abraham was commanded to keep the Sabbath.
No one knows exactly what all of God's commandments, statutes, and laws were for Abraham..................................

The law of Moses has no authority over Christians.

Excellent!!
So simple, even a child can understand it.
Btw, have you and/or others studies on the "covenantle" parable in Luke 16? One of the most misunderstood parable of Jesus in the NT, IMHO.

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/luke-16-26-and-the-great-chasm-gulf.7436472/

http://www.herealittletherealittle.net/index.cfm?page_name=Lazarus
Abraham vs Moses

Luke 16:26
And upon all of these between us[Abraham/Grace] and ye[Moses/Law] a great chasm hath been established.
So that those willing to cross-over hence toward ye no may be able,
neither thence toward us may be ferrying

What is the "great gulf" which stands between the rich man and Lazarus?
Paul aptly explains it to us in the 11th chapter of Romans. He tells us that God has blinded the Jews and "given them a spirit of stupor, eyes that they should not see and ears that they should not hear, to this very day" (Rom. 11:8).
JOHN 5:45
"Do not think that I shall accuse you to the Father; there is one who accuses you — Moses, in whom you trust.
LUKE 16:
30 "And he said, 'Nay! father Abraham; but if one goes to them from the dead, they will repent.'
31 But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.' "

While the significance of this seemingly pointless detail has been neglected by scholars throughout the centuries, you can be certain that it did not escape the notice of the Pharisees and scribes to which Yeshua was speaking. They thoroughly knew their history and were extremely proud of their heritage.
Yeshua wanted those self-righteous Pharisees to know exactly who he was referring to with this parable. This detail cements the identity of the rich man as the House of Judah, the Jews!

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BobRyan · Aug 28, 2016

Jan001 said:
Sin has no dominion over people who obey the law of Jesus Christ.

And Hebrews 8:6-10 tells us that Jesus Christ gave us the Ten Commandments.

BobRyan · Aug 28, 2016

LittleLambofJesus said:
31 But he said to him, 'If they do not hear Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead.' "
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Luke 16 Christ affirms Moses' teaching.
Mark 7:6-13 Christ affirms Moses' teaching.
Matt 17 -- we have Moses standing with Elijah and Christ Himself.

So much for the law-denying solution so many have invented.

The NEW Covenant of Jer 31:31-33 says the same as in Hebrew 8:6-10 "I will write My LAWS on their heart and mind"

BobRyan · Aug 28, 2016

BABerean2 said:
You fail to admit that the law was "added" 430 years "after" the promise made to Abraham

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Was there ever a time - OT or NT - when taking God's name in vain was "just fine -- go ahead... do it"???

Genesis 26:"5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."

Gal 1:6-9 - there is only ONE Gospel
Gal 3:7 the Gospel was preached to Abraham

Where there is no Law -- there is no sin. Romans 4.

"Sin IS transgression of the LAW" 1 John 3:4

The Law was not written on stone - until 430 years after Abraham.

NEW Covenant - Jer 31:31-33 "I will write My LAWS on their heart and mind"
NEW Covenant Heb 8:6-10 "I will write My LAWS on their heart and mind"

BABerean2 said:
Was it before October 22, 1844 ?
Was the Door shut or open?
Did Ellen G. White debunk it?

Shut Door Documents from the estate of Ellen G. White
http://www.whiteestate.org/issues/shutdoor.html

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Earth to BABeran2 -- feel free to join the conversation

Jan001 said:
What gospel (Galatians 1:6-9, 3:7) did God preach to Abraham?

The Gospel preached to Abraham
John 8 'Abraham SAW MY DAY and was glad" --

Gal 1:6-9 - there is only ONE Gospel
Gal 3:7 the Gospel was preached to Abraham

1 Peter 1
9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow."

God certainly did not preach the same exact Ten Commandments of the law of Moses to Abraham

I guess we have "YOUR word" for that. Not God's

I prefer the Bible "instead".

Genesis 26:"5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."

Jan001 said:
You are the one who believes in Sola Scriptura.

True. Just as we see it in Acts 17:11

Just as we see it in Mark 7:6-13.

And in fact even the pro-sunday authors of the "Baptist Confession of Faith" and the "Westminster Confession of Faith" and also D.L. Moody in his "TEN Commandments" sermon. All of them -- affirmed that the principle of "Sola scriptura" testing of all doctrine and tradition -- the correct one.

So we have agreement among both Bible-Sabbath and pro-Sunday scholars on this point.

Jan001 said:
There is no Scriptural evidence that God preached the Ten commandments to Abraham.

Until you read Romans 5 and also Genesis 26:5 bringing up a TEN COMMANDMENTS for all mankind - point that not only do the pro-sunday scholars affirm - but even your own Catholic leadership admits to it.

Wouldn't be wonderful if you and your own church agreed on this affirmation of the Bible when it comes to God's TEN Commandments??

"The Sabbath was MADE for MANKIND" Mark 2:27 - -and Abraham was a member of mankind.

Obviously.

There is no statement that Abraham ate breakfast every day. Or that he looked at some grass. Those little toy-fluff arguments don't go very far when it comes to opposing the Bible - as I am sure you will agree.

Romans 6:14
For sin will have no dominion over you, since you are not under law but under grace. rsv

1 John 2:1 "these things I write to you that you SIN NOT"
1 John 3:4 "SIN IS transgression of the LAW"

Gal 3:7 the GOSPEL was preached to Abraham.
Gal 1:6-9 there is only ONE Gospel

Heb 4 "The Gospel was preached to US just as it was to THEM also"

John 8 "Abraham saw MY DAY and was glad"

The gospel preached to Abraham:

Moses stands WITH Christ and Elijah in Matt 17.

Travis93 · Aug 28, 2016

BobRyan said:
Luke 16 Christ affirms Moses' teaching.
Mark 7:6-13 Christ affirms Moses' teaching.
Matt 17 -- we have Moses standing with Elijah and Christ Himself.

So much for the law-denying solution so many have invented.

The NEW Covenant of Jer 31:31-33 says the same as in Hebrew 8:6-10 "I will write My LAWS on their heart and mind"

Here's another parable I think illustrates Jesus preached the same message as the prophets.
Matthew 21:33 Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country:
Matthew 21:34 And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it.
Matthew 21:35 And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another.
Matthew 21:36 Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise.
Matthew 21:37 But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son.
Matthew 21:38 But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance.
Matthew 21:39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.
Matthew 21:40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?
Matthew 21:41 They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

The husbandmen are people in rebellion to God's law, the servants are the prophets preaching repentance, and Jesus is the son doing the same.

LittleLambofJesus · Aug 28, 2016

Jan001 said:
Sin has no dominion over people who obey the law of Jesus Christ.

Galatians 3:24-25
So that the law was our custodian until Christ came, that we might be justified by faith.
But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a custodian; rsv

We Christians are no longer under the law of Moses. We Christians are under the law of Christ.

Galatians 6:2
Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. rsv

1 John 3:23
And this is his commandment, that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us.

What a delightful post! AMEN!

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...-sion-christ-will-profit-you-nothing.7715971/
if you observe Circumcision, Christ will profit you nothing.

Act 15:5
But some believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees rose up and said, “It is necessary to circumcise them and to order them to keep the law of Moses.”

Gal 2:12
For before certain men came from James, he was eating with the Gentiles;
but when they came he drew back and separated himself, fearing the circumcision party.

Philip 3:2
Beware of the dogs! beware of the evil workers! beware of the circumcision! [Psalm 22:16/Isaiah 56:11/Revelation 22:15]
Psalm 22:16
For dogs have surrounded me, assembly of ones doing evil have encompass me as a lion, hands of me and feet of me.

Reve 22:15
Outside the dogs and the sorcerers and the prostituters and the muderers and the idolaters and every one being fond of and doing falseness.
[Philipp 3:2]

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Travis93 · Aug 28, 2016

In the third temple circumcision will be mandatory for gentiles.
Ezekiel 44:9 Thus saith the Lord God; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that is among the children of Israel.
The Passover will also be celebrated again, requiring circumcision of gentiles.
Ezekiel 45:21 In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.
Exodus 12:48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

bugkiller · Aug 28, 2016

BobRyan said:
And Hebrews 8:6-10 tells us that Jesus Christ gave us the Ten Commandments.

Where? please quote what you say exits.

bugkiller

BABerean2 · Aug 28, 2016

Travis93 said:
In the third temple circumcision will be mandatory for gentiles.
Ezekiel 44:9 Thus saith the Lord God; No stranger, uncircumcised in heart, nor uncircumcised in flesh, shall enter into my sanctuary, of any stranger that is among the children of Israel.
The Passover will also be celebrated again, requiring circumcision of gentiles.
Ezekiel 45:21 In the first month, in the fourteenth day of the month, ye shall have the passover, a feast of seven days; unleavened bread shall be eaten.
Exodus 12:48 And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the Lord, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

How long has it been since you ripped the Book of Galatians and the Book of Hebrews out of your New Testament?

Gal_2:3 But even Titus, who was with me, was not forced to be circumcised, though he was a Greek.

Or do you have any of the New Testament in your possession.

Anyone who has called the Apostle Paul a "false prophet" should be removed from the conversation.

Gal 5:12 I wish those who unsettle you would emasculate themselves!

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BABerean2 · Aug 28, 2016

BobRyan said:
The Law was not written on stone - until 430 years after Abraham.

Really...

Deu 5:1 And Moses summoned all Israel and said to them, "Hear, O Israel, the statutes and the rules that I speak in your hearing today, and you shall learn them and be careful to do them.
Deu 5:2 The LORD our God made a covenant with us in Horeb.
Deu 5:3 Not with our fathers did the LORD make this covenant, but with us, who are all of us here alive today.

Jer 31:31 "Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah,
Jer 31:32 not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, my covenant that they broke, though I was their husband, declares the LORD.

Shut Door Documents from the estate of Ellen G. White
http://www.whiteestate.org/issues/shutdoor.html
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If you Love Me - KEEP My Commandments

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