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Advice regarding Sadistic Fantasies

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Dear Christian Forums

I'm a 17-year-old male. A 17-year-old male who believes that Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior was crucified and resurrected on the third day. However, I feel that I've got a major problem, to be honest.

I've got an obsession with sadistic fantasies.

Whenever I'm idle, and usually that's when I'm lying down in bed, I'll imagine of a young six-year-old who was cursed to be immortal and to be an extreme [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. He would then be tortured mercilessly repeatedly, but he would be in pleasure. Parts of him which are decapitated due to torture would be grown back due to the curse. The torture lasts forever and the person who cursed him would think of new and more painful ways to torture him so to increase his pleasures.

I feel that these sadistic fantasies are devouring me, they are tools of Satan and they are bringing me further and further away from Christ. I did pray to God to give me control over myself, but then whenever I'm idle I would still feel a strong urge, and I fall to temptation.

My brain has turned from a blessed gift from God to a source of indirect inappropriate contentography.
What should I do with myself?

If we were to take Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior's advice directly, I would have to destroy the sources of this sin, which are my brain, my eyes, my hands and other various parts of my body. For Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior said: "If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell." - Matthew 5:29-30, ESV

But destroying parts of your body is indirect blasphemy to God, since 'God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.' - Genesis 1:27, ESV and 'your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you' - 1 Corinthians 6:19, ESV. Also, I cannot afford to lose my brain because I would die and I have people that I need to take care of. I also have a future. So according to this logic, as well as interpretations of many other believers, Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior used a hyperbole.

But this problem of having sadistic fantasies should be considered very serious. Part of me wants to stop this self-destructing habit but part of me still wants to maintain it to no end. 'For the desires of the flesh are against the Spirit, and the desires of the Spirit are against the flesh, for these are opposed to each other, to keep you from doing the things you want to do.' - Galatians 5:17, ESV.


I'd like advice on this issue. There are countless unknowns in my mind right now. Thank you very much.
 

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This is definitely something you'll want to talk about with a therapist. I assume you yourself take pleasure from this fantasy. It's not easy to break out of an unwanted thought pattern like that. But I suspect there is a reason behind why you think about it that you need to sort out.

In the meantime don't let yourself get tripped up by guilt. As unusual as this problem is it's just a thought.
 
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You've already worked out when you are vunerable to this temptation.
Turning from sin triggers is half the solution. Turning to Jesus and staying there whenever you are tempted is what is needed to gain the victory over sin.
If you are determined to keep your mind filled with pure, holy things glorifying to God then the struggle will eventually get easier.

Frank sermons and writings on this issue are available as well. http://www.sermonaudio.com/search.a...aphy&keyworddesc=inappropriate contentography
 
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If you are determined to keep your mind filled with pure, holy things glorifying to God then the struggle will eventually get easier.
This is also my experience. Ditto for the habit of ejecting things from my mind. Early on my efforts did absolutely nothing (that I percevied), but I kept at it.

This effort is not a substitute for therapy or medication, though. And nothing is a substitute for constantly turning to Jesus and asking him to take away those thoughts and whatever the root is that is causing them. Verse 8, bolded below, is a list of things one can try to conjure up when fighting thoughts. Many, many people have memorized this verse for this very purpose.

Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things. (bold mine, Philippians 4:6-8, 1984 NIV)

Also, this is the verse I used a lot in the early years of my fight (I memorized it and it's still memorized):

Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature. (Romans 13:14, 1984 NIV)

My efforts to "clothe" myself with Jesus, rather than just recite the verse was part of the effectiveness.

Romans 7:7-25 helped and was also encouraging. Here is some of it:

Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it. (Romans 7:20, 1984 NIV)

In this life we have a sinful nature. However, who we really are in Christ does not have this nature (our sinful nature dies with our body). Paul looking at this and saying it is not himself doing it is true in the sense that something is happening contrary his choice, will, and effort. The very fact that we fight a part of "ourselves" is proof it is a valid perspective.

Be sure to pay attention to the end of the passage:

What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord! ... (Romans 7:24-25a, 1984 NIV)

And remember:

Ask and keep on asking and it will be given to you; seek and keep on seeking and you will find; knock and keep on knocking and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who keeps on asking receives, and he who keeps on seeking finds, and to him who keeps on knocking, it will be opened. (Matthew 7:7-8, Amplified Bible)
 
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I have no advice, and i am not a doctor either. I would however say that its needed for us to grow through Gods grace. Think about mercy, love, compassion and gentleness.

As much suffering as I have endured in life, it has taught me that those things are good. Now I see the old person I was, and I give him to God, and the new person that I am is what I try to put on. I am not perfect, but I see myself as a work in progress.
 
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@grandvizier1006 @joey_downunder @Greg J. @W2L

As part of sexuality education my college showed me a video about pre-marital intercourse and how it increases the rate of HIV. I was disgusted that two teenagers were having intercourse before marriage and that one of the teenagers was wearing a crucifix on her neck. (I felt that it reflected me as a believer in Iesous Christos our Lord and Saviour but still had sexually immoral thoughts.) I was disturbed to the extent that I requested to leave the screening. I suddenly lost the urge to have sadistic fantasies. I think the Lord heard my prayer and made me less tolerable towards the sexually immoral. Now I think that this problem is solved.

Hallelujah! :)
 
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that seems extremely painful. if you ever need to talk hit me up! Try your best to redirect your thoughts to something else that you enjoy that is not evil. We live in horrible fleshly bodies that like evil. We are all far worse then even those thoughts. I love you man and so does God. He is not surprised by those thoughts btw and he still sent his Son to die for you!
 
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