LGBT at the Oympics

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Well here it comes people. Men who "identify as women" are wanting to compete against women in the Olympics. It is a simple fact that men in general have more body strength than women. So even with a set female hormone level to compete would it really be fair for men to compete with women in wrestling? Weightlifting? Javelin? Shot put?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_protests_surrounding_the_2014_Winter_Olympics
 

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Well here it comes people. Men who "identify as women" are wanting to compete against women in the Olympics. It is a simple fact that men in general have more body strength than women. So even with a set female hormone level to compete would it really be fair for men to compete with women in wrestling? Weightlifting? Javelin? Shot put?

What is this world coming to?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_protests_surrounding_the_2014_Winter_Olympics

Transgender women, meaning men who masquerade as women, have an unfair athletic advantage over normal women. They shouldn't be allowed to compete in the Olympics.

The militant LGBT movement has clearly gone too far.
 
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Well here it comes people. Men who "identify as women" are wanting to compete against women in the Olympics. It is a simple fact that men in general have more body strength than women. So even with a set female hormone level to compete would it really be fair for men to compete with women in wrestling? Weightlifting? Javelin? Shot put?

What is this world coming to?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_protests_surrounding_the_2014_Winter_Olympics

This hasn't even gotten started yet. It will be far, far worse.
 
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Well here it comes people. Men who "identify as women" are wanting to compete against women in the Olympics. It is a simple fact that men in general have more body strength than women. So even with a set female hormone level to compete would it really be fair for men to compete with women in wrestling? Weightlifting? Javelin? Shot put?

What is this world coming to?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_protests_surrounding_the_2014_Winter_Olympics
Transgenderism is a mental disorder, a type of body dymorphism. They need treatment, not appeasement. Men are just naturally stronger than women, it would be an unfair advantage and there would be no competition. Also think about all the men that would exploit that. There are only two genders, male and female.
 
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Transgenderism is a mental disorder, a type of body dymorphism. They need treatment, not appeasement. Men are just naturally stronger than women, it would be an unfair advantage and there would be no competition. Also think about all the men that would exploit that. There are only two genders, male and female.

What happened to all of the demonic possession that took place in biblical times? The Bible is full of examples of Jesus casting out demons and if you believe the Bible then you have to believe that they are still legion. Do you think that in this modern day and age Satan's minions simply went away? Do you not think that they still worm their way in any way that they can to separate people from Christ such as this sudden huge gender confusion, a "mental disorder"?

I personally believe that demonic possession still is as real as it ever was, as Jesus believed and addressed it.
 
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IOC rules transgender athletes can take part in Olympics without surgery
Female-to-male athletes can compete ‘without restriction’, while male-to-female athletes must undergo hormone therapy, according to new guidelines
Transgender athletes should be allowed to compete in the Olympics and other international events without undergoing sex reassignment surgery, according to new guidelines adopted by the IOC.

International Olympic Committee medical officials said on Sunday they changed the policy to adapt to current scientific, social and legal attitudes on transgender issues.

The guidelines are designed as recommendations – not rules or regulations – for international sports federations and other bodies to follow and should apply for this year’s Olympics in Rio de Janeiro.

“I don’t think many federations have rules on defining eligibility of transgender individuals,” IOC medical director Dr Richard Budgett said. “This should give them the confidence and stimulus to put these rules in place.”

Under the previous IOC guidelines, approved in 2003, athletes who transitioned from male to female or vice versa were required to have reassignment surgery followed by at least two years of hormone therapy in order to be eligible to compete.

Now, surgery will no longer be required, with female-to-male transgender athletes eligible to take part in men’s competitions “without restriction”.

Meanwhile, male-to-female transgender athletes will need to demonstrate that their testosterone level has been below a certain cutoff point for at least one year before their first competition.

“It is necessary to ensure insofar as possible that trans athletes are not excluded from the opportunity to participate in sporting competition,” the IOC said in adocument (pdf) posted on its website that outlines the guidelines. “The overriding sporting objective is and remains the guarantee of fair competition.

“To require surgical anatomical changes as a precondition to participation is not necessary to preserve fair competition and may be inconsistent with developing legislation and notions of human rights,” it added.

The guidelines, first reported by Outsports.com, were approved after a meeting in November 2015 in Lausanne, Switzerland, of Olympic officials and medical experts.

Budgett said there were no plans for the guidelines to be sent for approval by the IOC executive board.

“This is a scientific consensus paper, not a rule or regulation,” he said. “It is the advice of the medical and scientific commission and what we consider the best advice.”

Former IOC medical commission chairman Arne Ljungqvist, who was among the experts involved in drafting the new guidelines, said the consensus was driven by social and political changes.

“It has become much more of a social issue than in the past,” he told Associated Press. “We had to review and look into this from a new angle. We needed to adapt to the modern legislation around the world. We felt we cannot impose a surgery if that is no longer a legal requirement.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2...tes-can-take-part-in-olympics-without-surgery
 
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What happened to all of the demonic possession that took place in biblical times? The Bible is full of examples of Jesus casting out demons and if you believe the Bible then you have to believe that they are still legion. Do you think that in this modern day and age Satan's minions simply went away? Do you not think that they still worm their way in any way that they can to separate people from Christ such as this sudden huge gender confusion, a "mental disorder"?

I personally believe that demonic possession still is as real as it ever was, as Jesus believed and addressed it.
Of course I am sure demons are responsible for many LBGT cases. Whether it be demonic influence/possession or mental illness it is still a problem, and only Christ can deliver them.
 
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What happened to all of the demonic possession that took place in biblical times? The Bible is full of examples of Jesus casting out demons and if you believe the Bible then you have to believe that they are still legion. Do you think that in this modern day and age Satan's minions simply went away? Do you not think that they still worm their way in any way that they can to separate people from Christ such as this sudden huge gender confusion, a "mental disorder"?

I personally believe that demonic possession still is as real as it ever was, as Jesus believed and addressed it.
What is the point of that, are demons also participating in the games via a human host? What type of entity is it that you believe demons are?
 
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Of course I am sure demons are responsible for many LBGT cases. Whether it be demonic influence/possession or mental illness it is still a problem, and only Christ can deliver them.
How do you determine if a demon is responsible for somthing.
 
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How do you determine if a demon is responsible for somthing.
First, we know from the Bible that demons can and do possess those who do not belong to Christ, and Scripture gives some examples of people being possessed by demons. From these descriptions, we can find some symptoms of demonic influence as well as gain insights as to how a demon possesses someone. In some of these passages, the demon possession causes physical ailments (inability to speak, epileptic symptoms, blindness, etc.); in other cases the demon causes the individual to do evil (Judas is the main example); in Acts 16:16-18, the spirit apparently gave a slave girl some ability to know things beyond her own learning (a spirit of divination); in the case of the demoniac of the Gadarenes who was possessed by a multitude of demons, he had superhuman strength, cut himself, went around naked, and lived among the tombstones. King Saul, after rebelling against the LORD, was troubled by an evil spirit with the apparent effect of a melancholy mood and an increased desire and readiness to kill David (God’s next anointed king of Israel). Many of these cases sound like they could be a result of mental illness were it not for the Bible clarifying the issue.

If the person is saved in Christ, then it will most certainly be mental illness. We should be greatly encouraged to know that it is impossible for a Christian to be possessed by a demon. The believer is indwelt by the Holy Spirit of God who comes to reside in our hearts when we give our lives to Christ (2 Corinthians 1:22). The description of a possessing demon as “evil” means “unclean” in the Greek (Mark 5:2), therefore making it impossible for the Holy Spirit to share His dwelling place with such a creature. For those who do not have the Holy Spirit, however, no amount of “cleaning up their lives” will prevent a demon from possessing or influencing them. The parable Jesus told in Matthew 12:43 makes this clear:

“When an unclean spirit goes out of a man, he goes through dry places, seeking rest, and finds none. Then he says, ‘I will return to my house from which I came.’ And when he comes, he finds it empty, swept, and put in order. Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first.” Jesus is teaching here that we are incapable of sweeping and putting “in order” our own hearts because our hearts are “deceitful above all things and desperately wicked” (Jeremiah 5:17). Only God can regenerate us and create in us a new heart (Ezekiel 36:26) and make us new creatures in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17).

However, while Christians cannot be possessed by a demon, this is not to be confused with being influenced by one. The apostle Peter is an illustration of a believer who was influenced by the devil (Matthew 16:23). This can occur especially when we are not mature in the faith and not sufficiently involved in the spiritual disciplines of regular study of Scripture and prayer.

When a demon possess someone, it can appear similar to mental illness. Only nonbelievers can be possessed by demons. The only way to figure out whether it is demonic possession or mental illness is to use what God has given us, his word, prayer, and the Holy Spirit. Whether it be mental illness or demons, we should still pray for that person.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
 
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What is the point of that, are demons also participating in the games via a human host? What type of entity is it that you believe demons are?
Did I say that demons are participating in the games? My point is that many "gender identification" issues are a simple case of demonic possession. The Bible is rife with examples of demonic possession so what makes you think that all of Satan's demons retired?

What type of entity is it that I believe that demons are? Fallen angels as Satan is.
 
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I would just pay no attention to sports, they are boring to watch and a huge waste of time.
Many millions of players and viewers disagree. It may not be your thing, but millions of people make a wonderful, clean living off of offering and viewing sports. Many families eat and live with money made from participating in these sports. The enormous sacrifice of being physically fit enough to even compete speaks volumes to their character. To slam and belittle their lifestyle as a huge waste of time shows a gigantic lack of basic understanding and even ignorance.

As the bible says, "It is not what enters your mouth that defiles you, it is what comes out."

Or better yet, "Judge not, lest you be judged."
 
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Many millions of players and viewers disagree. It may not be your thing, but millions of people make a wonderful, clean living off of offering and viewing sports. Many families eat and live with money made from participating in these sports. The enormous sacrifice of being physically fit enough to even compete speaks volumes to their character. To slam and belittle their lifestyle as a huge waste of time shows a gigantic lack of basic understanding and even ignorance.

As the bible says, "It is not what enters your mouth that defiles you, it is what comes out."

Or better yet, "Judge not, lest you be judged."
No, no not at all. These people are doping just at a low enough level not to be caught. Sports are a massive waste of time, I do not care what went into preparing, it is all a diversion.
 
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Did I say that demons are participating in the games? My point is that many "gender identification" issues are a simple case of demonic possession. The Bible is rife with examples of demonic possession so what makes you think that all of Satan's demons retired?

What type of entity is it that I believe that demons are? Fallen angels as Satan is.
Why would a fallen angel wish to inhabit and be inhibited by a human body, that just makes no sense, nor do I think you will find any biblical backing for such theories.
 
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Why would a fallen angel wish to inhabit and be inhibited by a human body, that just makes no sense, nor do I think you will find any biblical backing for such theories.
Matthew 9:32-33
Mathew 12:22
Matthew 17:18
Mark 5:1-20
Mark 7:26-30
Luke 4:33-36
Luke 22:3
Acts 16:16-18

Those are just a few of the many cases in the Bible of demonic possession. There are also plenty of cases of demonic influence, such as 1 Samuel 16:14-15

They have many reasons to possess someone, it is not a permanent state.
 
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