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The backdoor efforts to sabotage Sanders' campaign and then having HRC hire a disgraced DWS as her campaign chair should be the most damning evidence of all, but people are so paralyzed by their fear of Trump they choose to look the other way.
 
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The backdoor efforts to sabotage Sanders' campaign and then having HRC hire a disgraced DWS as her campaign chair should be the most damning evidence of all, but people are so paralyzed by their fear of Trump they choose to look the other way.

I didn't know that Democrats feared Trump. They mock him as a joke with no chance of winning, so why the fear?
 
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I didn't know that Democrats feared Trump. They mock him as a joke with no chance of winning, so why the fear?

Because they are afraid of him. Either that or they assume paralyzing the disgruntled Sanders base with fear of a Trump dictatorship would make us forget what happened at the DNC and pledge allegiance to Hillary.
 
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Because they are afraid of him. Either that or they assume paralyzing the disgruntled Sanders base with fear of a Trump dictatorship would make us forget what happened at the DNC and pledge allegiance to Hillary.

Of all the madness going on in the world, if they did crown Hillary queen against the will of the people i.e. rigged the nomination, that scares me most of all.
 
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The following is from the last page of the entire report:

A. CONCLUSIONS

We have aimed to provide an overview of the evidence for various types of fraud and targeted voter suppression impacting the outcomes of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. After covering the legal background and the history of Election Justice USA’s legal actions, our best efforts to combat election fraud and voter suppression, we gave a thorough treatment of:

1) Targeted voter suppression

2) Registration tampering

3) Illegal voter purges

4) Exit polling discrepancies

5) Evidence for voting machine tampering

6) The security (or lack thereof) of various voting machine types


Finally, we gave a date-by-date, state-by-state overview of each of these fraud or suppression types at work throughout the course of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. Based on this work, Election Justice USA has established an upper estimate of 184 pledged delegates lost by Senator Bernie Sanders as a consequence of specific irregularities and instances of fraud. Adding these delegates to Senator Sanders’ pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton’s total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates. EJUSA established the upper estimate through exit polling data, statistical analysis by precinct size, and attention to the details of Democratic proportional awarding of national delegates. Even small changes in vote shares in critical states like Massachusetts and New York could have substantially changed the media narrative surrounding the primaries in ways that would likely have had far reaching consequences for Senator Sanders’ campaign.

B. RECOMMENDATIONS

We conclude by calling for decertification of the 2016 Democratic primary results in every state in which we have established a reasonable doubt as to the accuracy of the vote tally. Finally, we wish to bring the reader’s attention to three simple reforms that would eliminate the mere possibility of the vast majority of fraud types demonstrated or evidenced in this report:​
 
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I will just note that

#1 - Election Justice USA has existed for about 4 months. It's impartiality and competence are open questions.
#2 - Even if this maximal number of delegates were awarded to Bernie, he would still have lost.
 
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Yep, saw that.
It is a brand new organization with no history to support their competency, and smacks of "I am so made Bernie did not win, I am going to find something to support my conspiracy theory."

And they also say that at most, Bernie may have lost 184 delegates.
So lets see. Totals were:
Bernie - 1,879 Hillary - 2,811

So let's add 184 to Bernie and take 184 from Hillary

Bernie - 2,061 Hillary - 2,627

Of course, they are talking about pledged delegates. But fact is, this organization just came into being and is biased as can be.
 
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Yep, saw that.
It is a brand new organization with no history to support their competency, and smacks of "I am so made Bernie did not win, I am going to find something to support my conspiracy theory."

And they also say that at most, Bernie may have lost 184 delegates.
So lets see. Totals were:
Bernie - 1,879 Hillary - 2,811

So let's add 184 to Bernie and take 184 from Hillary

Bernie - 2,061 Hillary - 2,627

Of course, they are talking about pledged delegates. But fact is, this organization just came into being and is biased as can be.

If you watched the DNC show, hopefully you are aware that Bernie supporters don't see it that way, which is all that matters now.
 
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Yep, saw that.
It is a brand new organization with no history to support their competency, and smacks of "I am so made Bernie did not win, I am going to find something to support my conspiracy theory."

And they also say that at most, Bernie may have lost 184 delegates.
So lets see. Totals were:
Bernie - 1,879 Hillary - 2,811

So let's add 184 to Bernie and take 184 from Hillary

Bernie - 2,061 Hillary - 2,627

Of course, they are talking about pledged delegates. But fact is, this organization just came into being and is biased as can be.


Just out of curiosity, is it moderation policy to correct blatant misinformation in thread titles? Because this is pretty blatant.
 
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Just out of curiosity, is it moderation policy to correct blatant misinformation in thread titles? Because this is pretty blatant.
It should just get moved to conspiracy theories where it has it deserved chance at making the hall of fame.
 
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If I wanted the DNC show? That is an odd phrase.

I liked both candidates. Bernie is okay with me. But he lost.

It should have been "watched", rather than wanted.

In any case, the party remains split, which ensures a Trump victory and some law and order for a change.
 
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It should have been "watched", rather than wanted.

In any case, the party remains split, which ensure a Trump victory and some law and order for a change.
90% of Bernie supporters have given their support to Hillary. The party is not split.
 
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There doesn't seem to be the evidence for it - just the claims. Hillary had 3,775, 435 vote more than Bernie.
I live Bernie. But he just plain lost.

But there were some districts in which his name was not added to the ballot in the primaries and there were uncounted ballots in California. Primaries aren't really decided by popular vote anyway. It's about delegate pledges, and the leaked emails show there was a lot of strongarming within the DNC to make sure Hillary received them.

90% of Bernie supporters have given their support to Hillary. The party is not split.

Eh, that's a bit of a stretch. It depends on the polls you are looking at. Judging by what I've seen on social media, I'd say we're pretty split down the middle, at the very least. Will some of of my Bernie or Bust peeps change their mind come general election, once the raw feelings subside, of course. But there are many of us who have shifted our attention toward 3rd party candidates.
 
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